Excited Young People Film Strange Aerial Phenomenon In Oroville, CA.

Originally posted by FlySolo
reply to post by Flux8

 

A couple of problems with this is, we don't know if they're standing North of the airport or South of it.

Well, if we accept their claim of shooting this in Oroville and we can tell that they are video taping in a southwards position. It only makes sense that they are looking in the direction of the airport. I stand a bit corrected as the AP is actually West/Southwest of Oroville, but if you google earth it you can see that one of the strips actually aligns 60/240 deg. Pefectly reasonable to see a head on aircraft on landing approach.

Second, there is light that comes into play at the 1 min mark. This would be your landing lights and as you put it. Everything is relatively normal with the girls until this plane (coming in for a landing) goes straight up at the 3:40 mark.

Wasn't landing, was taking off, as in touch and go. Also, why it seemed to be moving faster, because it was closer.

Ten seconds later you can definitively tell a heightened increase of excitement and fear in her voice. This is where the cussing comes in. And rightfully so, this plane coming in for a landing has suddenly veered off course and headed straight up in the air.

Yes, she was excited. And no, that plane wasn't coming in for a landing but taking off from runway 60/240 Oroville municipal.

BTW, she mentions there being 5 in the air at one point. Those are the same 5 my wife and I have been seeing for the past several months doing the same thing. They are practicing.

I see lights like these pretty often i always thought they where helicopters cause they do move, but they dont blink either so idk.. I live about 20 miles from oroville glad you found this cause now when i see these kind of lights i still get to guess what it is.. (Until someone proves its a airplane) Wish i had a video of the lights we saw here a month ago, started off with 2 just like that and out of nowhere came a few more. ... They could have something to do with beales air force base..

reply to post by Flux8

Well, if we accept their claim of shooting this in Oroville and we can tell that they are video taping in a southwards position. It only makes sense that they are looking in the direction of the airport.

Again, you're assuming the AP isn't behind them. Oroville is a big place.

Way too much hang time for planes to be taking off.There is at least a full minute or two prior to ascending . Besides, I don't get how you can say they're taking off when your conjecture in the first place is they're landing. Please indicate prior to the 1 minute mark where that plane is seen leaving the runway.

Originally posted by Flux8
reply to post by Kali74

 

Roger that. I wish it were close to bedtime here, too.

I took a look at the longest hangtime any one of those lights were in the sky. At 10:02 in the video that main central light hangs the longest for about 4.25 minutes. As it does so it slowly descends to the horizon and disappears. During this time two other lights come on scene. The second one begins accelerating to the right, and as it does so it gets dimmer and begins to blink (red methinks, as an indicator light on the wingtip).

Now, consider that light with the longest hangtime, (4.25 minutes) and then consider the airspeed of an airplane (Cessna would be my guess) on landing approach which is around 65 to 80 knots depending on conditions, (about 75 to 92mph). Taking an average of 83.5mph it travelled 83.5mph /60min x 4.25 min = 5.9 miles... Well within flight range and characteristics of a landing cessna. Makes sense, too... Here's why.

Google earth Oroville CA and look up the municipal airport. Notice it's location? Just south of Oroville. Notice that the lights they were recording were just about to the south, judging by the setting sun? Most likely they are Cessnas practicing their landing... Less traffic at night and a good time to practice touch and goes. Most municipal airports have pilot schools, and I'd imagine Oroville would be no different.

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Well, assuming you're correct, the next logical question would be why?

1. Assuming they have lived there for some time, if they were aware that an airport was there which you would be if you had eyes. Then that would mean they decided to film this knowing full well that it was nothing but planes and just faked the whole thing.

2. And if this wasn't the case and they are for real, perhaps this was their first visit to the place, , I would think that the resident would be aware of the airport and the planes and inform them thusly of the obvious possibility that it was just planes.

If there is any way we could tell their exact location, which way they are facing, etc. That would be helpful.

Interesting though, it did not sound like acting to me. So I would rule out #1 and go to #2, which still leaves more unanswered questions.

Cool vid though, It was good of them to try and capture what they were seeing and stick with it for 18+ minutes!

I think the video is very interesting but why can't anyone ever hold a camera still while taping anything they think is important???Uhhgg, so confusing to be able to see what it really is with jiggling and in and out focusing constantly. Could very well be a UFO but hard to tell without a steady hand.

Please keep in mind that this video isn't a raw footage, it has been edited. I've edited many videos in my life as I work with CGI/Video editing myself, and I know for sure that when you "slow motion" a video, it doesn't get that "noisy" effect.

As for the lights, very interesting find, I wonder what these could be.

For those who pop out and say "it's an aircraft and they're aiming towards the airport", no, that's not the case because if there was an airport there that could be seen, it would, or you think that runways and taxiways don't have lights? Also, the VOR/ILS lights would be blinking and would be very easily spotted from that distance (say 5-10miles away? - you can usually see airport lights and IFR ones from about 20-25 miles on a good weather day, which is the case). Helicopters reporting traffic? Where I live helicopters don't join together and form a greater light or fly in such a chaotic path.

Thanks for sharing, S&F!

Originally posted by shell310
I think the video is very interesting but why can't anyone ever hold a camera still while taping anything they think is important???Uhhgg, so confusing to be able to see what it really is with jiggling and in and out focusing constantly. Could very well be a UFO but hard to tell without a steady hand.

The problem is not with the steady hand, it is with the zoom. When you zoom in on anything from that distance every little move becomes grossly exaggerated. A tripod would have been nice, and can help minimize the jiggles, however even that is not always sufficient, the slightest bump can still be a problem.

Ok I found the video very interesting also. Now I could be wrong, but it seems that the lights were all going down, and none went up. As much as I want to believe this is an alien UFO, I can't help but think lanterns.

reply to post by paulorf86


That's right! No Airport lights. You see, this is why this video is good. They stuck it out so we have daytime and nighttime footage. No bsing around regarding what the view really details. Also, according to someone commenting on her YT channel Link , they guess they're at Kelly Ridge. A part of town miles N. East of the airport. If this is the case, then there is no way these are planes. Much too far.

Originally posted by elouina
Ok I found the video very interesting also. Now I could be wrong, but it seems that the lights were all going down, and none went up. As much as I want to believe this is an alien UFO, I can't help but think lanterns.

Face palm. Lanterns? Go back and watch from 1:40 again to 3:50

Originally posted by FlySolo

Again, you're assuming the AP isn't behind them. Oroville is a big place.

Way too much hang time for planes to be taking off.There is at least a full minute or two prior to ascending .

I'm assuming she is in Oroville, as she has put on her youtube video. I did extrapolate the rest, but I think within fair reason. That first light was in the air 53 seconds. Again, the takeoff speed of a cessna is roughly the same as landing, so 83.5mph /60min /60sec x53sec = 1.2 miles travelled during her video taping... Again, well within normal range of a cessna. Actually, we could give a good guess as to where she is video taping this.

Besides, I don't get how you can say they're taking off when your conjecture in the first place is they're landing.

Well, actually I said, in a comprehensive sense, that they are practicing touch and goes. This would have been one of the "go" parts.

Please indicate prior to the 1 minute mark where that plane is seen leaving the runway.

It was never seen leaving the runway. You can't see the runway. But judging by degrees of probability knowing there is an Oroville municipal AP as well as other APs in the area as well, it seems reasonable that at the point she began videotaping the first light it was already well in the sky. If I'm correct and as I've shown that airport would have to be at least 1.2 miles away. I'd lean to double that at least.

And on further reading from the uploader of the youtube vid, "Northern California small town of Oroville. Occurred February 13th 2012. From Sunset until late hours... and Feb 14th similar sightings in the same area."

But you make good points. It would be nice to know where they are taping this, without divulging private personal info. Hmmm, Mufon? I'll look into it if I have time tonite!

reply to post by Flux8


She begins to get excited at 3:50. This is because up to this point there is always some level of doubt and skepticism. But she gets excited. Why? Because 10 seconds before, the light is not behaving as plane light should. It goes from hanging in the air to making a westward bank with the light in full view. Then it ascends rapidly. You would only see that light if it were coming head on. Not while moving west and then up. Unless...the entire object is illuminated.

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1.2 miles away. Terrain looks like flat open fields with a direct line of sight to the airport tower. Not very far is it? Do you still think they were this close and not know they were looking directly at a airport?

Originally posted by FissionSurplus
reply to post by RightWingAvenger

 

I can tell that you have never been to Oroville. Your statement comes from ignorance.

I lived for 10 years in that area, and attended Butte College in Oroville. It is a town like any other. Strange lights in the sky are the same no matter where on the globe they are filmed.

22 years there for me right outside Butte College which i also attended and I agree with the other guy!

The reason they are bright and then dim and start blinking is because at first they are flying straight at you and you are looking at the landing lights. When they turn they dim out because you cannot see the landing lights anymore. Instead you see the blinking navigational lights which are smaller and dimmer.

reply to post by Flux8


Airplanes turn on their landing lights a long way off. I see bright lights for about 10 minutes before they turn into the pattern and become blinking navigational lights.

Originally posted by dayve
I see lights like these pretty often i always thought they where helicopters cause they do move, but they dont blink either so idk.. I live about 20 miles from oroville glad you found this cause now when i see these kind of lights i still get to guess what it is.. (Until someone proves its a airplane) Wish i had a video of the lights we saw here a month ago, started off with 2 just like that and out of nowhere came a few more. ... They could have something to do with beales air force base..

edit on 20-2-2012 by dayve because: yep

Many years back I lived in a two story looking toward Tabletop Mountain.. I was seeing a UFO come low over my house (I watched from the upstairs window) cut across the railroad tracks and would drop suddenly down into the valleys toward Oroville from the North and disappear. No plane i thought could do that and no chopper could move like that it was really fast and silent. This went one month after month then there was the crash at the fore-bay and the world found out about the secret Stealth Jets. So easy to see things and not be able to explain stuff in the sky.

Thank you OP for posting this. In the original upload (better quality) at 4:20 where the film is slow to frame by frame I am seeing morphing of the UAP and possible acute angle turns - does anyone else see this?

I seen these same things in sacramento...they were moving up and down and in circles....i thought they were ufo's at first but rc airplanes is a plausible explanation and probably what they most likely are..

These objects are not yet identified and seem to be flying... so... IMO... they're UFO's!