HAS THE US JUST STARTED WW3???

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Just watching another one of my favorite sources of information and stumbled across this...I wonder how long it will take Iran to be drug right into the mix. Opinion, thoughts???

I don't think it will be long before Iran gets tossed into the mix and then Russia and China will come to the aid of Iran. Iran has a treaty obligating them to the defense of Syria if things don't go well militarily. See the link below..this is how stuff gets started. No gloom and doom, just facts.

US DRONES NOW OVER SYRIA

reply to post by Vinny5036


Considering the CIA and the Muslim Brotherhood are the ones fighting Syria's security forces, I'm not surprised...

I assume those drones have been there the whole time providing support to the black ops agents.

All is not what it seems in Syria.

I bet most of them are skirting the border of Iran...

All part of the plan.



~Tenth

We already had one drone shot down IN Iran. If a drone was gonna be the straw to break open WW3, that would have been it.

So I would say just hold on tight.....this may not be it but it is coming.

This has been happening so no the US hasnt "just started WWIII" LMAO!!!!!

Originally posted by princeofpeace
This has been happening so no the US hasnt "just started WWIII" LMAO!!!!!

I don't find this a bit funny. This is technically a violation of Syrian airspace. I think considering the situation on the ground, one of these to get shot down and the whole place will go up in smoke. Our guys will look for any reason to get this thing set off.

The theory is that with Iranian military in Syria, whether black op or not, will be the "fault" of Iran one way or the other I believe.

Time will tell.

NO, the US hasn't started WW3.
How do i know??????
Well for starters the Internet is still up, and secondly were not all dead from a nuclear blast.

reply to post by Vinny5036


No... not yet. But they sure are trying hard to provoke someone else to fire the first shot.

Ot is correct that this has been happening, it was reported a few days ago here on ATS.

If my memory serves me correctly the drones are for observation only as to what exactly the Syrian security forces are doing against the rebels. It makes sense that the west is supporting the rebels as the Syrian govt is not exactly an ally to any of the western nations. This should have been expected, and probably was by many.

It is true that Iran and Syria have a mutual defense treaty, dating back about 5 or 6 years, again if my memory is correct.

As far as starting WW3, not a chance.

Even if the drones were perceived as an attack, thereby drawing in Iran by said treaty, and assuming that Iran actually honors the treaty, it is quite a jump to immediately state that it is the beginning of WW3, it would be more along the lines of a 3rd middle east conflict in the past 3 years, and none of the former conflicts have escalated into WW3.

With that being said, there will be no war with Iran.
I've said it before, a war with Iran simply does nt make sense for any of the western nations, let alone the US.
Drones over Syria yes.
Syrian pact with Iran, yes.
War with Iran, nope
WW3 here, absolutely not.

Originally posted by WozaMeathed
NO, the US hasn't started WW3.
How do i know??????
Well for starters the Internet is still up, and secondly were not all dead from a nuclear blast.

edit on 20-2-2012 by WozaMeathed because: (no reason given)

If you think world war 3 is going to be as quick and peaceful as a power outage and an atom bomb... sure are you going to be in for a surprise.

Originally posted by youdidntseeme
it would be more along the lines of a 3rd middle east conflict in the past 3 years, and none of the former conflicts have escalated into WW3

The former conflicts in the middle-east by the invading US troops were not wars. They were genocides.

A war takes 2 sides to fight.
A genocide only takes one.

Originally posted by InsideYourMind

The former conflicts in the middle-east by the invading US troops were not wars. They were genocides.

A war takes 2 sides to fight.
A genocide only takes one.

edit on 20/2/2012 by InsideYourMind because: (no reason given)

A genocide would have casualties on only one side as well using this logic.
That might be your frame of reference, however there have been casualties on both sides.
2 sides fighting, both sides taking casuaties.
By your own statement, that is a war.

WWIII? Nope. Not this time. 'Fraid you're barking up the wrong tree, Fido. Just another little dust up caused by a pigheaded tyrant who is killing his own people, and needs to be sacked fatally. The big boys such as China and Russia will frown and grumble, but they know wrong is wrong, and they won't do anything about it because they're guilty of the same crimes.

Originally posted by InsideYourMind

Originally posted by WozaMeathed
NO, the US hasn't started WW3.
How do i know??????
Well for starters the Internet is still up, and secondly were not all dead from a nuclear blast.

edit on 20-2-2012 by WozaMeathed because: (no reason given)

If you think world war 3 is going to be as quick and peaceful as a power outage and an atom bomb... sure are you going to be in for a surprise.

Yeah i do think it will be quick for me, and i never said it will be peaceful.
I live near one of Australia's biggests Airforce Bases at Williamtown ,NSW.
So yeah i do think that my life would be over real quick if WW3 ever starts.

But i dont think WW3 is starting anytime soon.

Originally posted by youdidntseeme

A genocide would have casualties on only one side as well using this logic.
That might be your frame of reference, however there have been casualties on both sides.
2 sides fighting, both sides taking casuaties.
By your own statement, that is a war.

People fight back during a genocide, as they know they are going to die.
I hope you're not defending the US as "justification" for killing Iraqi civilians.

Civilians, innocent people... According to this statistic;
www.justforeignpolicy.org...

It's over 1.4MILLION, and yet only an estimate because nobody seems to care.

Invaders;
www.justforeignpolicy.org...

Less than 2000.


Do the math, is that genocide or war?

Originally posted by InsideYourMind

The former conflicts in the middle-east by the invading US troops were not wars. They were genocides.

The sad thing is, I think you REALLY believe what you just wrote.

Dorian Soran

reply to post by youdidntseeme


If China had drones flying over the USA it would be an absolute act of war, just because this is Syria doesn't make it different. If Syria engages US assets and sets off the west's intervention it will be the first domino to fall. Israel and the US will be thrilled because then they can blame Syria and Iran for starting what's to come.

reply to post by Vinny5036

This video was all over the internet this morning - well - at least mine.

Listen to the propaganda - Someone's REALLY poking the bear!



Unreal stuff...

peace

reply to post by jaws1975


Escalation is an integral part of the military agenda. Destabilization of sovereign states through "regime change" is closely coordinated with military planning. There is a military roadmap characterised by a sequence of US-NATO war theaters.

War preparations to attack Syria and Iran have been in "an advanced state of readiness" for several years.

US, NATO and Israeli military planners have outlined the contours of a "humanitarian" military campaign, in which Turkey (the second largest military force inside NATO) would play a central role.

We are at dangerous crossroads. Were a US-NATO military operation to be launched against Syria, the broader Middle East Central Asian region extending from North Africa and the Eastern Mediterranean to the Afghanistan-Pakistan border with China would be engulfed in the turmoil of an extended regional war.

There are at present four distinct war theaters: Afghanistan-Pakistan, Iraq, Palestine and Libya.

An attack on Syria would lead to the integration of these separate war theaters, eventually leading towards a broader Middle East-Central Asian war.

Originally posted by DorianSoran

Originally posted by InsideYourMind

The former conflicts in the middle-east by the invading US troops were not wars. They were genocides.

The sad thing is, I think you REALLY believe what you just wrote.

Dorian Soran

And he's right to believe so.

War has never been about liberating people or creating democracy. There's always been greed behind the ultimate goal of any conquest. Not a SINGLE crusade has had the purpose of creating peace.... it's about money and power. Well, by now those two are the same things.

The problem lies within the American imperialist army has been so well trained that they themselves often can't tell right from wrong. They believe all the bull# propaganda put into their heads by the media at home (which by the way in majority is controlled by in the closet anti-muslim personas or groups), and the government during their away time.

The Iraq war was about oil, Afghanistan was about minerals, the other middle eastern countries are about trading and development deals, Syria is a gateway to Iran, since the US aren't really that good friends with Pakistan anymore.

Iran threatens the elites definition of security because they for one control oil and seem to be pretty able in regards of science and technology. "God" forbid that they would at some point release tech that renders American and other western tech too expensive or actually shows the world that we've been fooled and exploited the last many years.

Army's are easy to control and will do your bidding regardless of right and wrong. The US army, and the European forces are a prime example of that.
So yes... in a way, the INVASION of the middle east is in many ways a covered up genocide combined with robbery and exploitation and we should be damn ashamed as citizens of the countries whose armies are invovled.

As an end note... I'm a non-religious person living in a well developed European country, with a steady 9-17 job.

reply to post by InsideYourMind


Or is it religious suicide by world police?

YOu really need to think about the role religion plays on both sides... apart from protecting their homeland from mcdonalds and bestbuy.

Don't think Iran is innocent in any of this. They sent some of their own troops into Syria hoping to provoke a war. If their troops get fired on in Syria they can claim the U.S. has commited an act of war, wether or not the U.S. actually fired on them or not.

Methinks the Ottoman Empire is about to be reborn. It's going to happen its just a matter of when and how.