Raping Babies: Novel AIDS Cure

This is not new, really, but I could not find a discussion of this topic on ATS. This really has to be the worst kind of superstitious behavior and there doesn't seem to be any effective way to put an end to this egregious practice.

South African men rape babies as 'cure' for Aids

By Jane Flanagan in Johannesburg
(Filed: 11/11/2001)

THE alleged rape of a nine-month-old baby girl by six men in a remote part of rural South Africa last week has focused the nation on an 80 per cent rise in child sexual abuse over a year, much of it connected with the country's Aids pandemic.

More than 67,000 cases of rape and sexual assaults against children were reported last year, compared with 37,500 in 1998. Child welfare groups believe that the number of unreported incidents could be up to 10 times that number.

Some of the victims were as young as six-months-old, a number of whom died from their injuries, while others contracted HIV. The largest increase in attacks has been against children under seven.
South African men rape babies as 'cure' for Aids

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Yes, it's a HUGE social problem... and as at least one of your links says, it stems from European tradition.

Although I don't think it's a "conspiracy," it IS a cultural issue and an example of one of the more poisonous forms of folklore. There's not a huge group of people running around in an organized manner, whispering that this is the cure. It preys on those men who are afraid and who don't want to admit that they have AIDS and are reluctant to go to the doctor. They hear of the "cure" or that someone tried it (even if that person was arrested, etc) and they think "maybe it will work for me. I don't want to do this but if it cures me..."

Originally posted by Byrd
Yes, it's a HUGE social problem... and as at least one of your links says, it stems from European tradition.

What European tradition is that??? ...

www.truthorfiction.com... The belief in curing AIDS by having sex with a virgin is apparently an outgrowth of a long-standing belief in many cultures in the restorative and healing powers of virgins and having sex with virgins.

Originally posted by Byrd
There's not a huge group of people running around in an organized manner, whispering that this is the cure.

Six grown men, well not a huge group but then What the hell is wrong with these people???? Maybe they deserve to get AIDS so that they die in a long suffering process because they have failed to learn civilised behavior?

South Africa has two huge crises - AIDS and Rape. The two i guess were going to find each other at one or other time. 1 in every 3 women in South Africa will be raped sometime in her life, according to statistics. the crises of AIDS on the other hand- the President of the nation with this huge pandemic does not believe that HIV and AIDS is the same thing so HIV patients can't be treated for AIDS on public health care. Please don't misunderstand me the President is not a ignorant man, he is probably the most intelligent and educated President in Africa, but he will stay with his beliefs, despite that his personal spokesperson and best friend died of AIDs not that long ago.

www.sfgate.com.../chronicle/archive/2000/05/24/ED82697.DTL

Now the fiction of alternate cures for AIDS has been going around South africa for years, at some point it was believed you could be cured by having sex with an indian woman, and now infants? The situation is deplorable. I just found these few items online. I remember when Charlize Theron had her anti-rape ad launched on South african TV. Men were in total outrage at how anti-men the campaign was. A senior diplomat (male and white) was so horrified that he turned to me and said "She just needs to get raped".
Yes, South africa is a male chauvinist society, which is surprising when it has so many strong and capable women?

"JOHANNESBURG, South Africa (CNN) -- A wave of infant rapes has left South Africa shocked and outraged.

In recent weeks, authorities have reported nearly a dozen rapes of infants. A 5-month-old girl was the latest victim. Two male suspects -- one 17, the other 24 -- were charged with the crime."

"More than 21,000 cases of child rape were reported to police in 2000, most committed by relatives of the victims, according to Reuters.

Now, apparently, infants are increasingly the victims, and many in this nation of 40 million people are outraged."

www.cnn.com...

"Rape statistics from South Africa are so shocking as to be almost unbelievable - women's rights activists say one South African is raped every 26 seconds.

It is the young who are particularly vulnerable, with the police saying that more teenagers are raped than any other age group."

news.bbc.co.uk...

"A South African government agency triggered a firestorm by pulling an anti- rape ad off the air because it allegedly discriminated against men.

But Friday, an appeals court judge overturned the ban on the ad, which features actress Charlize Theron and implies that men who fail to speak out against rape are silently condoning it.

The judge said that the Advertising Standards Committee had wrongly determined the ad was discriminatory. Anti-rape activists who packed the courtroom -- both men and women -- broke into applause after the ruling was announced.

The furor over the ad came against a backdrop of rising anger over endemic levels of rape in South Africa, which has been dubbed as the "rape capital of the world."

Officials aren't sure whether the incidence of rape is actually increasing or whether reporting has improved. But they are still trying to determine why a woman is raped, on average, every 26 seconds."

www.cnn.com...

JOHANNESBURG - "people often ask me what the men are like in South Africa," coos Charlize Theron, South Africa's hottest export to Hollywood, raising big eyes toward her TV audience.

Then, the sultry star of "The Astronaut's Wife" and "Mighty Joe Young" slaps down her countrymen by questioning their masculinity and suggesting "real men" would not stand by while a woman is raped in this country every 26 seconds.

The series of controversial anti-rape ads provoked an uproar, and now the country's advertising regulator has pulled the commercials off the air.

Outraged women's groups and their supporters - of both genders - are protesting against the ban, asking why people seem to be more upset about the commercial than they are about the staggering number of rapes in South Africa. In the radio and TV spots, Ms. Theron notes that more women are sexually assaulted here than in any other country in the world.

"Worst of all," Theron continues, "the rest of the men in South Africa seem to think that rape isn't their problem. It's not easy to say what the men in South Africa are like." She pauses, peering sadly at the camera: "Because there seem to be so few of them out there."

The script underneath reads: "Real Men Don't Rape."

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Full of good contributions all around.

I hope this awful situation gets the attention it deserves.

That's one of the most barbaric and cruel things I've ever heard about!
What's wrong with those people? That's a selfish, inhuman, animal-like thing to do, I don't care if the men do have aids and want to cure it. Killing a baby cause they think it will save themselves?
That's just disgusting and horrible.

That's one of the most barbaric and cruel things I've ever heard about! That's just disgusting and horrible.

The international outcry over this situation should be just as loud and intense as that heard over apartheid. Where are the activists now?

You guys have to remember, these people don't know any different.

This is how they grow up, rumors get passed along.

Its discusting. I remember watching Oprah one day and they discussing it. She lady that was there said when the infants get raped, they are literally torn from their bellybutton back to the tip of their buttock. When the doctors are sewing them back up, sometimes they don't even know what they are attaching.

From what I understand...it has something to do with ages old tales of healing in the country...many woman are actually selling their children for these purposes...they believe that by having sex with young females....the younger the better, as they need to be virgins...it will cure them...sick, sick, sick

www.scienceinafrica.co.za...

Originally posted by MacKiller
You guys have to remember, these people don't know any different.

Thanks for reminding us. We might have thought that perhaps they might be responsible for their actions. That would be the real crime, wouldn't it?

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott

Originally posted by MacKiller
You guys have to remember, these people don't know any different.

Thanks for reminding us. We might have thought that perhaps they might be responsible for their actions. That would be the real crime, wouldn't it?

NO!! I'm not buying that! It doesn't matter what you believe....a man no matter what, where, knows the pain, and possible death to a child by doing what he is doing....even if he does think it will cure him! He still knows better!

NO!! I'm not buying that! It doesn't matter what you believe....a man no matter what, where, knows the pain, and possible death to a child by doing what he is doing....even if he does think it will cure him! He still knows better!

Agreed. But if you were raised as a cannibal, everyone in your tribe is a cannibal, you grow up seeing it as a way of life.

These crimes, no matter how horrific they are still happen. The people who commit these crime don't go unpunished either. They serve an average of .5 - 1.5 years. The punishment should be way more, but it is so common in their society.

This is sick, I have heard of it for a while. If I had AIDS, and no medicine, I would not even contemplate this animal behaviour, and would kick the arse of anyone who suggested to me. I have an 11 month old daughter, and it makes me physically ill hearing this.

Just goes to show that you can take a horse to water but you cant make him drink. You get this all over Africa, tribal warfare, killing, murder. These people had civilisation, but when they took charge they screwed it up. Now they are running around, brutalising each other and squandering what little they have, having sex with anything they can....Never mind, it'll all be over soon, once AIDS has taken its toll. Live like animals, die like animals, they deserve no help from us (I mean the blokes, not the kids)

What is happening to these children cannot be described in words.
Unfortunately years of tradition and superstition cannot be erased in a short time.

These events happen regularly and although perpetrators are caught most of the time, the children will suffer for their whole lives.(Those that survive)

I remember the anti rape adverts, and that Charlize Theron ad was removed for a short while. I believe that those who complained may be guilty of something. This may seem a strong statement, but who can see an ad AGAINST rape being bad.

Well done to the person starting this thread. It is highly important and hopefully can create a huge awareness of these diabolical acts.

Bradley Jamison

I don't care what your raised with...what type of monster can rape a baby...think, as hard as it is, about what this takes to do...a baby would instantly begin screaming in severe pain......for a person, and I use that word lightly here, to finish the act while a child is screaming and bleeding everywhere....truly takes a cold, no hearted monster!

A more indepth article dealing with the political and cultural conditions relative to this appalling phenomenon:

Infant Rape in South Africa a Serious Problem
Date 2003/10/22 10:38:08 | Topic: News & Politics


By STEPHANIE NOLEN
Saturday, October 18, 2003

Claudia Ford has a story she tells her daughter, Princess, before bedtime.

"You're my special girl," she begins, and Princess squirms with delight. "Do you know why?" Ms. Ford asks. "Because I saw you in the hospital, and I said, 'Look at that special baby. I want to take her home with me.' "

Princess, an eagle-eyed two-year-old, loves the part about how she's special. And Ms. Ford tells her each night, in her calm and measured voice. But she is braced for the day when Princess will ask the natural question: "Why was I in the hospital?"

Princess was brought to the hospital by her biological mother on Dec. 2, 2001, with massive internal injuries. Horrified staff determined that her perineum had been cut open with a piece of a glass bottle and she had been raped repeatedly. It later emerged that her mother had been drunk and left her in a seedy hotel with two male acquaintances; she came home hours later to find the baby screaming and bleeding.

The surgeon who tried to repair the damage to the baby's genitals and digestive system later told Ms. Ford that he could hardly tell what he was doing, so massive was the trauma. "He said, 'I just sewed, did the best I could and prayed,' " Ms. Ford recalls. She heard about the five-month-old on the news, and went to the hospital with a group of others to visit the baby eight days later.

Princess's mother, who was still in a drunken daze when she brought the baby in, had disappeared; police were hunting for her and investigating the rape. Ms. Ford heard there were plans to discharge Princess to an orphanage. "I thought, 'No way. Not after what she's been through.' " And so at the age of 48, with her own sons already in their teens and 20s, she found herself mother to a massively traumatized infant.

Ms. Ford, an American-born development researcher who now teaches at Johannesburg's University of the Witswatersrand, has become something of an expert on the horrifying phenomenon of infant rape in the course of caring for Princess (who has had a final round of reconstructive surgery, tested negative for HIV after a six-week course of drugs, and is today a remarkably cheerful and well-adjusted toddler).

www.she-net.com...

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This is the sickest thing I have read about in a long time. What is wrong with people that rape anyone, much less children. I think that capital punishment should be involved somewhere in the sentancing process. What if it was your child? How would you want these people or person punished? Would they survive to see a court room? I have a daughter( 14 yrs old) and would give my own life to protect her. No culture in this world should find this ok.

Originally posted by KSmith69
. I think that capital punishment should be involved somewhere in the sentancing process.

No Way! Lock them up and let the aids take it's course. It will be a much deserved slow and painfull death. Deny them any pain meds and any treatment to make them comfortable. Just let aids kill them off. In their last hours show them pictures of the victim and constantly remind them how they deserve whats happening to them.

Why waste scarce treatments on them?

The same should go for any mother that would sell her child in to this nightmare. Inject her with the virus, lock her up and let the disease take its course. No mercy for those that do such a horrible thing to children.

My take on it.

well there is mybe a little more on this i may add but small area radio stations i heard in a documentary that are extremist when it come to spiritual and folk law have been doctrinating the msg that this cures aids but come on radio stations in third world countries are more affective at advertising msg's and sad thing is thats like tv in developed countries which sadley ppl will beleive anything

I lived in Natal, S.Africa, and you must understand, these people are very primitive and uneducated. The Zulu and Xhosa are the main tribes of South Africa. in the country, you can still see men walking down paths in nothing but a loincloth, bodypaint, and a spear. In the cities, they live in squatter camps or townships. Its insane.
Many of these people dont have the faintist understanding or trust of modern science. They rely on ancient superstitions and tribal doctors to "cure" them. Sometimes these superstitions can lead them to do terrible things like those described in the post. When 27% of a country's population is HIV+, you can expect some people to try desperate measures.
Even as late as last year, the government was questioning whether or not HIV caused AIDS! Why would they say something that is so obviously false? Because they didnt want to pay for AIDS medication! Its a very terrible situation, that will only get worse