Alien Moon Base Captured By Chang'e-2 Orbiter 2012

Originally posted by DARREN1976
I would love to believe this I really would, but I just don't trust anything thats supposed to be official when it is written with bad grammar (extremely bad grammar)

To your info, it's from the original Spanish website, so yes, the original text is on Spanish language, but Google's own translator is not 100 percent perfect, so what you see as translated from Google's own translator is what you get.

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I know with 100% certainty that that Spanish-language "FAKE"umentary on YouTube is a hoax.

And, YOU would too if you would care to research using the many resources I've provided. The voices of the men, in the FAKEumentary, do not even match Armstrong, Aldrin nor the Astronaut working CAPCOM that day.....Charlie Duke.

.... Charlie Duke was CAPCOM for Apollo 10's lunar landing rehearsal, and then Apollo 11's most famous moment. He went on to serve as backup Lunar Module Pilot for Apollo 13, and was later prime LMP for Apollo 16, with a record lunar stay of 71 hours 41 minutes along with commander John Young.

Just in case you don't know what function the CapCom (or CAPCOM) served:

CAPCOM

Originally posted by ProudBird
The total EVA time from the opening of the LM hatch, to the closing was 2 Hours, 36 Minutes and 40 Seconds.... ....NOT "3 and a half hours"! en.wikipedia.org...

Guess what, NASA source claim that the Apollo 11 astronauts spent 3 and a half hours on Moon's surface, Oops! And guess what, not every info on Wiki is correct, which have been proven before. So what source is right, huh? Guess what, YOU DON'T KNOW THAT!!!

Originally posted by ProudBird
I know with 100% certainty that that Spanish-language "FAKE"umentary on YouTube is a hoax.

No you don't know that. Beside, OTHER SOURCES (including Russian sources) CONFIRM that the Apollo astronauts witnessed UFOs while they walked there, which i previously presented during this thread.

The voices of the men do not even match Armstrong

Wrong. The voice of Armstrong from this footage does sound very similar to this footage. So you're wrong again...

Originally posted by Anunaki10
Wrong. The voice of Armstrong from this footage does sound very similar to this footage. So you're wrong again...

edit on 23-2-2012 by Anunaki10 because: (no reason given)

That second video....starting at 3:05....is completely faked voiceovers. If you can not tell that is voice acting then you are completely hopeless. It sounds nothing like Armstrong or mission control....the quality isn't even the same...

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Not even close.....and, the fake "Mission Control" voice is the worst acting, and is NOTHING at all similar to what the standard phraseology is.

"He" says "...continue your program..." after the 3-minute mark.....absolutely ridiculous!! That is not the proper terminology, and it is NOT Charlie Dukes' voice.

And, as I pointed out....there is no delay.....there is a 2.6-second time delay, round-trip, from the Earth, to the Moon, and back again. 1.3 seconds each way.

FAKE.

And, to mention once again --- I gave the link to all of the audio from the mission.....you can sift through it and just focus on the 2 hours 36 minute EVA...or, listen to all of it.

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i always have known something was going on with our moon, I believe it was put there or built, the fact that the moon is the reason we life on this planet says to me it wasn't just a natural coincidence.

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"put there or built"?

You aren't serious....the Moon is just as old as the Earth.

Confusing the effect (stable life on Earth) with the coincidence of the Moon-Earth system. Or, in other words, it is possible that had the Moon never formed along with the Earth, ~5 Billion years ago, then we Humans might not have evolved in the first place, to be guessing (now, all these Billions of years later) that "someone" "put it there", just for lil' ole us.

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The moon came from the Earth....that's why moon rocks and Earth rocks are virtually identical.

"Put there?" Really?

Originally posted by eriktheawful
I've already seen one thread today that was proven a Hoax and moved to the Hoax forum by one of the actual Site Owners of ATS.

What thread has been moved to the Hoax forum? Does that thread have a name? Or is it just your bs?

Do you know why this thread is not moved to the Hoax section? Obviously because of lack of evidence to back up the claim of Hoax. Do you what that means? It have not been proven as Hoax...

It's quite obvious that you won't convince him that the video is indeed a hoax, because the creator of the video lied about the sorce of the picture in the first place.

Who is the creator of the video? Is it an anonymous source? Do you know why some prefer to be anonymous? I can explain to you why some prefer to be anonymous.

Can you prove that the creator lied about the source? And what source do you think released that "Alien base" image?
Do you really think NASA released that "Alien base" image? Wouldn't that be against NASA's "policy" to release that kind of image? In a letter from Colonel Charles Senn, Chief of the Air Force Community Relations Division, to Lieutenant General Duward Crow of NASA, dated 1 September 1977, Colonel Senn made the following astonishing statement: "I sincerely hope that you are successful in preventing a re-opening of UFO investigations."
And from about 6:15 in this UFO Hunters - NASA files, Part 2 former NASA employee Donna Hare said that some Shadow Government agent looking dudes came to her and told her that it was not a good idea for her to talk openly about the UFOs, she also told that her phone was tapped and followed by these Shadow Government agent looking dudes.
Donna Hare confirm that NASA airbrush UFOs and "anomalies" out, and in this inteview Karl Wolf confirm that they found an alien base on the Moon, in this conference Karl Wolf - NASA discovered a Base on the Moon, "structures", "mushroom shaped buildings", "spherical buildings" and "Towers".

I can tell you that NASA would never release that kind of images of "Alien base" to the public, because they Airbrush "anomalies" out. However, it seems that sometimes some "Whistleblowers" obviously succeed to leak some "Uncensored NASA Moon Images!!" out to the open, which make the other NASA employees to say >>OH NO!!! Someone leaked it out!!! DAMN IT!!!

Originally posted by Anunaki10

Can you prove that the creator lied about the source? And what source do you think released that "Alien base" image?

It's been debunked many times in this thread. Here is the latest person debunking it, in which you said you were now doubting this case. Why do you keep changing your mind with all this proof shoved in your face? The hoax was created using the image taken from Lunar Orbiter III, once again.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by DocHolidaze
i always have known something was going on with our moon, I believe it was put there or built, the fact that the moon is the reason we life on this planet says to me it wasn't just a natural coincidence.

Alex Collier - Moon and Mars lecture, Part 1 , and from about 1:00 into this Part 2 , "Andromedan contactee" Alex Collier told that the Andromedans told him that the Moon is an artificial "satellite", in fact the Moon is a spacecraft, the Andromedans told him, he said, much of the debris on the surface was put there and built purposely to make it look like it isn't, it is hollow, it is able to leave the orbit of it's own power, that the Moon originate in another star system (called Chaulta or something like that i guess), it was originally one of 4 Moons that orbited the 17th planet of that another star system, it was built almost similar to that "Death Star" from the Star Wars movie, it was built around this 17th planet, it was then put in the tail of a comet and dragged to this solar system, when it arrived to this solar system it removed itself from the comet, and it placed itself around the planet called 'Maldek' which is the asteroid belt by now (Maldek was reportedly destroyed a long time ago), the Moon became one of 2 Moons that orbited 'Maldek', 'Maldek' was the first inhabited planet in this solar system, it was very much like Earth, Mars and Earth were Terraformed at the time, and all plant and animal life was brought to Earth, some Earth-scientists theorize that life started with a single cell and the Andromedans laughed at that ridiculous theory
This solar system has been engineered, he said. I will stop here, and let you watch the rest of the lectures, Part 3 , Part 4 , Part 5 , Part 6 , Part 7 , Part 8 , Part 9 , Part 10 , Part 11 , Part 12

David Icke confirm that the Moon is Artificial spacecraft and not supposed to be there

Originally posted by ProudBird
Not even close.....and, the fake "Mission Control" voice is the worst acting, and is NOTHING at all similar to what the standard phraseology is.

Oh yes, it definitely sounds very much like Armstrong's voice... You claim it's not Armstrong's voice. Then can you prove who's voice it is? If you can't then i'm afraid you're wasting time with speculation

"He" says "...continue your program..." after the 3-minute mark.....absolutely ridiculous!! That is not the proper terminology, and it is NOT Charlie Dukes' voice.

If it's not Charlie Duke's voice, then who's voice is it? Another NASA employee speaking to the astronauts? Quote from Wiki "Duke remained silent for a couple of seconds before expressing the relief of Mission Control: >>Roger, Twan-- Tranquillity, we copy you on the groundGod, what is that out there?...>Roger, Twan-- Tranquillity, we copy you on the ground>Roger, we know about that>God, what is that out there?...

Originally posted by Anunaki10

Originally posted by DocHolidaze
i always have known something was going on with our moon, I believe it was put there or built, the fact that the moon is the reason we life on this planet says to me it wasn't just a natural coincidence.

Alex Collier - Moon and Mars lecture, Part 1 , and from about 1:00 into this Part 2 , "Andromedan contactee" Alex Collier told that the Andromedans told him that the Moon is an artificial "satellite", in fact the Moon is a spacecraft, the Andromedans told him, he said, much of the debris on the surface was put there and built purposely to make it look like it isn't, it is hollow, it is able to leave the orbit of it's own power, that the Moon originate in another star system (called Chaulta or something like that i guess),

Alex Collier is a joke. Below are some of his statements of infinite wisdom.

The gravity in the Copernicus crater is equal to the gravity in Chicago.
He explains this because gravity is not caused by rotation, but sunlight (double fail).
The moon does not rotate, its the only moon that does this, and to top that double fail off we only see 59% of the moon, strike 3!
(Apparently he's referring to tidal lock, but if I were to mention that he might get a brain hemorrhage).
The NSA has been on the moon since 1958, with elaborate bases, and so were the Russians, though not together, but they all worked for the big bankers that are controlled by extraterrestrials.
He points out 9 huge domed ET cities each housing 5 million inhabitants, on the moon.
He explains about the 4 pyramids on the moon brought there by Andromedans to stabilize the rotation and atmosphere on the moon maintained by ETs. In fact he says they are on every single planet for this purpose and to create the electromagnetic field present on every planet, (now why would all of those ET cities need to be domed for atmosphere when they have these magic pyramids?)
Then he continues to display his total misunderstanding of craters and crater formation.
The best is near the end where he explains the central peak of a crater was actually one of these domed cities destroyed by a particle beam attack 9,600 years ago.

Originally posted by Anunaki10
some Earth-scientists theorize that life started with a single cell and the Andromedans laughed at that ridiculous theory

Andromedans, huh? wtf

David Icke confirm that the Moon is Artificial spacecraft and not supposed to be there

edit on 24-2-2012 by Anunaki10 because: (no reason given)

Really? You're citing David Icke the 'reptilian' dude? lmao

Okay, let's put this to bed, and the way we are going to do that is with the users on here. THIS is something they can confirm themselves with their very own eyes and cameras!

Let's ignore the fact (that has been pointed out many times now), that the original video is using pictures taken by one of the Lunar Orbiters from over 40 years ago, and not the Chinese probe (which in itself should have debunked the whole thing).

Let's take a look for ourselves. You'll notice that in the video, they do NOT tell you where this is, with good reason: it's because standing here on the Earth, you yourself cam look at this place if you go outside and look up at the moon!

From the photo's we can identify WHERE this is on the moon. Where? Why it's at:

5 deg, 59' 34" N
0 deg, 06' 26" E

A place called Murchison crater.

Here is a screen shot of Google Earth with the moon, using the Lunar Orbiter images:



And here is another picture with the screen capture of the video, and using the ruler for reference, those "buildings" would have to be about 17,000 feet long or about 3.2 miles.



That means if you have a telescope, with the correct eye pieces you can zoom in with your very own eyes (and cameras) and take a good look at this spot, because any thing that is 3.2 miles long is going to be VERY visible to you.

So, there you go: you don't have to take anyone's word at all. ANY of you can go outside and look at this spot if you have a good telescope (at least a 5 inch apature) and some good eye pieces. Better yet, take pictures through your telescope (very easy to do) of this spot and post them on here.

I've circled where the coordinates and the crater are while looking at the moon as a whole:



So there you go: no sneaky "Oh it's on the FAR side of the moon, so you can't see it.", instead I call on everyone here to go look for themselves.

Of course if anyone does confirm this, I imagine we'll have people jump up and claim that we Photoshoped our own pics, or that NASA went up and removed this building so we could not see it.....

People have been looking at the moon with telescope for many decades now, with good optics. If there was a structure on the front side of the moon, you would have read about it by now..........

Originally posted by Anunaki10

Alex Collier - Moon and Mars lecture, Part 1 , and from about 1:00 into this Part 2 , "Andromedan contactee" Alex Collier told that the Andromedans told him that the Moon is an artificial "satellite", in fact the Moon is a spacecraft, the Andromedans told him, he said, much of the debris on the surface was put there and built purposely to make it look like it isn't, it is hollow,

I couldn't resist from replying to this in particular. Please stop posting BS and educate yourself. This is something you should have learned in freaking middle school. I picked out some parts to read.

The giant impact hypothesis states that the Moon was created out of the debris left over from a collision between the Earth and a Mars-sized body, sometime around 4.5 Ga (four and a half billion years ago). The colliding body is sometimes called Theia, for the mythical Greek Titan who was the mother of Selene, the goddess of the moon.[1][2]

The giant impact hypothesis is the currently favoured scientific hypothesis for the formation of the Moon.[3] Supporting evidence includes: the identical direction of the Earth's spin and the Moon's orbit,[4] Moon samples which indicate the surface of the Moon was once molten, the Moon's relatively small iron core, lower density compared to the Earth, evidence of similar collisions in other star systems (which result in debris disks), and giant collisions are consistent with the leading theories of the formation of the solar system.

Astronomers think the collision between Earth and Theia happened about 4.53 Ga; about 30-50 million years after the Solar System began to form. In astronomical terms, the impact would have been of moderate velocity. Theia is thought to have struck the Earth at an oblique angle when the latter was nearly fully formed. Computer simulations of this "late-impact" scenario suggest an impact angle of about 45° and an initial impactor velocity below 4 km/s.[10] Theia's iron core sank into the young Earth's core, and most of Theia's mantle accreted onto the Earth's mantle. However, a significant portion of the mantle material from both Theia and the Earth was ejected into orbit around the Earth. This material quickly coalesced into the Moon (possibly within less than a month, but in no more than a century). Estimates based on computer simulations of such an event suggest that some twenty percent of the original mass of Theia ended up as an orbiting ring of debris, and about half of this matter coalesced into the Moon. The Earth would have gained significant amounts of angular momentum and mass from such a collision. Regardless of the speed and tilt of the Earth's rotation before the impact, it would have had a day some five hours long after the impact, and the Earth's equator and the Moon's orbit would have become coplanar in the aftermath of the giant impact.[11]

Indirect evidence for the giant impact impact scenario comes from rocks collected during the Apollo Moon landings, which show oxygen isotope ratios identical to those of Earth, which can be explained if the Earth-Moon system experienced turbulent mixing in the aftermath of the giant impact, as discussed above. In addition, the highly anorthositic composition of the lunar crust, as well as the existence of KREEP-rich samples, gave rise to the idea that a large portion of the Moon was once molten, and a giant impact scenario could easily have supplied the energy needed to form such a magma ocean. Several lines of evidence show that if the Moon has an iron-rich core, it must be small.

In 2004, Princeton University mathematician Edward Belbruno and astrophysicist J. Richard Gott III proposed that Theia coalesced at the L4 or L5 Lagrangian point relative to Earth (in about the same orbit and about 60° ahead or behind),[25][26] similar to a trojan asteroid.[4] Two-dimensional computer models suggest that the stability of Theia's proposed trojan orbit would have been affected when its growing mass exceeded a threshold of about 10% of the Earth's mass.[25] In this scenario, gravitational perturbations by planetesimals caused Theia to depart from its stable Lagrangian location, and subsequent interactions with proto-Earth led to a collision between the two bodies.[25]

In 2008, evidence was presented that suggests that the collision may have occurred later than the accepted value of 4.53 Ga, at about 4.48 Ga.[27]

en.wikipedia.org...

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S&F OP i will go through the entirety of thread as soon as i have time. I hope this turns out to be something worth the effort of our ats community

It's really funny to read about what was said by the astronauts when they landed, my brother and I was literally glued to the TV during the Apollo 11 and all moonshots. There was no references to anything like "These babies are huge, etc..." it was just the excited voices of explorers on a 'new world'.
For those that STILL think the moonshots were hoaxed I ask WHY would they have to do it more than ONE TIME? If they hoaxed it, one time would do it, another thing people seem to not think of... the Russians were monitoring every transmission and movement and one of the former Russian space engineers (on hoaxing) said "if America hoaxed the moon flights we would have been the FIRST to call them on it as that would be a big plus for our moon program!"
Also, during the Apollo 11 flight Russia hoped to steal a little thunder by sending a 'return sample' probe to get some soil back before the Apollo 11 astronauts returned, NASA asked the Soviets if their probe was near our Apollo orbits and the Russian said they were monitoring their satellite and the Americans and made sure the orbit was far from ours. By the way, when their sample-grabber tried to land, it crashed into the moon.
Unfortunately these idiots that STILL believe we faked it, there is NO WAY they will ever change their minds, you could take them there and show them the empty lunar lander bases and they would insist they were planted there for THEIR benefit! Gawd people, put it to rest!

Originally posted by indisputable
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S&F OP i will go through the entirety of thread as soon as i have time. I hope this turns out to be something worth the effort of our ats community

Oh dear! You should have read the thread before wasting a star and flag! At least you only need to read to page 3 to see that the video is a hoax.

For some bizarre reason the mods are failing to deny ignorance and seem reluctant to shift into its proper place - the Hoax section - despite numerous alerts.

Oh well, ATS credibility declines again!