In the near future, my predictions.

Throughout most of human history we have live in rural settings, in much smaller communities, and I see that as the wave of the future.

I don't see these civilizations that concentrated wealth, and put vast amounts of their resources into doing things like building giant cities for the elites, vast tombs for dead rulers who were often worshiped as gods, as being the hallmark of an advanced civilization.

Yeah, it is good to have centers of cultural collaboration, learning, science, and art, but these should not be the center of our populations.

Funny, I have been watching the situation with Saudi oil production for awhile now. The day I post this thread the already posted info on the decline of Saudi oil production comes out, something I have watched for a long time.

This we get this new report on Arctic warming, something I have also been steadily watching, especially since reports of methane boiling out of the Arctic shelf.

www.barentsobserver.com...

It looks like we are approaching the perfect storm as 2012 evolves.

As rising gas prices grind the world economy to a halt, the important thing to identify, is which group will go militant first.

We have our well armed police, our large military, and many organized religious groups that will band together.

I guess now would be the time to form a group of like minded individual in your local community.

Originally posted by CB328
You are forgetting precious metals- mainly rare earths. China has most of them and they are needed for our electronics like cellphones, Ipods and GPS.

Sorry but you should go google the " Ring of Fire " or check this

www.abovetopsecret.com...

The problem is that real science has been pushed aside to promote tech that encourages consumption.

Energy sources that can operate independently of the grid, tied into a large system work against the best interests of the big banking elites. Anything that de-centralizes power and control threatens the position of those who control these big systems.

Thus we have systems built entirely around big oil, which is easy to control. When this changes, people will be freed, and innovation will surge. The potential is in place.

These things are taking shape as we post.

Most are in denial, and they will cling to denial as long as possible.

The smart people are going to hedge their bets, and when the odds are too large to continue to ignore, they will start to act.

Originally posted by poet1b

The next major looming force is the looming depletion of the vast oil reserves of our planet. The easy to get, high grade crude is about gone. Sure, we will always have oil, but in the future most of it will be much lower quality, much more expensive to refine, and much more expensive to get. We have depleted all of the large easy to get reserves.

NOPE. Not buying it. Lindsey Williams assertions about an abundance of high quality, easily recoverable oil have been affirmed by my loved ones working on the North Slope. They all assert essentiallyl that we have MORE THAN sufficient oil for our needs WITHIN OUR BORDERS . . . including escalating demand . . . for 400-800 more years.

People in charge of the money supply are starting to face these realities. They aren't stupid, just too obsessed with wealth, and on the foolish side. They will make some efforts, already underway to rebuild a middle class to create more demand for goods and services. This will be too little too late.

These guys:

twoday.net...

Are not interested in a middle class to challenge their SLAVE MASTER status. They want serfs and slaves only--and only 200 million of those globally. They have been planning current events for many decades as the quotes in their own words document.

The U.S. working class is currently in a major struggle, fighting to find common ground. Once the fighting is done, they will come together, and retake control of the U.S., and remind the elites once again not to tread on our liberties. We may have lost a few battle, but we will win the war, once again.

NOPE. Not going to happen. The elites are determined to crash the whole system--economically and every other way to enable easier and faster erection of their global tyrannical government overtly on the world stage. They don't care about the working class nor the middle class. They probably figure they can clone worker ant "humans" if necessary.

Depletion of the easy to get high grade oil supplies will be good for the working people of the world. The solutions to the problems this creates will be far more labor intensive. Necessity being the mother of invention, tech innovation and craftsmanship will flourish, and possibly bring us into a new age.

It is conceivable that God would crash things down to older aggrarian culture types . . . for the thousand years of peace after Armageddon. Or, we could have some of the super cheap 'infinite' energy sources available. We shall see. But the depletion of high grade easy to reach oil supplies is nonsense per a multitude of sources.

Our current infrastructure will have to undergo vast changes. Suburban sprawls are far too wasteful, built primarily to enrich the banking elites. Small cities and towns will be the wave of the future. Power generation, and most manufacturing will be done locally, and consumed locally. Things will be a lot less centralized. Smaller hybrid vehicles will become the norm. Maybe a new style of rail system will evolve to tie what cities remain, together.

Nice fantasies. That's the opposite of what the elites are working toward. The elites want to consolodate some larger warehouse type 'cities' and return the rest of the planet to its 'natural' state for their playground. Think Soviet style appartment complexes for the serfs and slaves. . . . with the serfs and slaves being the only other allowed class besides the ruling elites.

I'm not sure how far God will allow them to get down that road. Probably not overly far. Time will tell.

There will be a major push of Middle Eastern immigrants to move into Europe. This will create massive struggles politically, and some very violent conflicts. Things may get very brutal.

According to all recorded history, Europe is beyond replacement birthlevels and is doomed to Jihadi type Shariah law and Islam Caliphate.

Climate change remains the greatest variable. Increasing global temperatures will start to force major shifts in populations, great conflicts, and major realignment of cultural attitudes. Again, we may very well see some very brutal times in the not too distant future.

Climate change has nothing to do with manmade causes. We'll see how far it gets and what the real causes have been . . . eventually . . . those still alive.

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Well, lets examine the known facts.

The largest known reserve of oil ever found is in Saudi Arabia, and it is currently running out of oil. It has lasted about 60 years. No large reserve of oil has been discovered for 40 years now, and all the proven known reserves are past their peak.

Lindsey Williams claims are beyond absurd, when no other source of oil has ever came anywhere near those levels. Fodder for those who choose to live in denial. You are better off facing current realities.

Whatever the goals of those in positions of power, they will loose once again, as history has demonstrated over and over again.

We don't have to return to an older agrarian system. With modern technology, we would all be better off escaping the rat maze that is the current system, and rebuilding a new agrarian based society with advancing technology.

Birth rates can change very quickly. Developed nations with lower birthrates are moving in the right direction. Oil production has lead to over population, and lower birthrates are simply natural trends moving us towards more solid population levels. Europe is already moving towards a solution to Islam. As the power of the ICBs wanes, nature will take over.

Most evidence demonstrates that climate change is due to man made causes, but that argument is mute. Even drastic changes will not reverse climate change for a long long time. The smart thing to do is prepare for these inevitable changes.

A better future awaits us in a post oil world.

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NOPE.

ONE of the NORTH SLOPE reserve fields has sufficient oil to last the USA 200+ years. There are at least 2 of them that size totally held in reserve.

That doesn't even get into the Dakota fields with are also huge.

And that doesn't even get into the deep Rocky Mountain field that is even larger.

Doesn't sound like your information is very up-to-date.

BTW, I live in an oil producing area . . . senior level folks here also know the above information is true. So, within my personal social network, I have 3-5 DIFFERENT sources (most of them in the same company Lindsey got so much of his information through) in the know

ALL affirming that Lindsey Williams is essentially accurate.

I'll trust those sources above your pontifications any day.

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by BO XIAN

 

Whatever the goals of those in positions of power, they will loose once again, as history has demonstrated over and over again.

I don't recall ANY historical case where the ruling elites set about to utterly destroy the culture and homelands they ruled in--much less in favor of a greatly different global structure of tyranny.

THAT's a pretty significant difference to all recorded history to date.

Yes, they will lose. The Bible is clear that the last of them will be shredded at the literal Armageddon. However, until then, they will have at least 3.5-7 years of being fairly wholesale in control of all the nations of the world . . . with 2-3 nations being somewhat restive and rebellious for part of that 3.5-7 years' time. I expect China to be one of those resistive/rebellious nations. Perhaps Russia will be another one though likely not as Russia has been so thickly involved with the ruling globalists for many decades--before their revolution that the globalists helped engineer.

We don't have to return to an older agrarian system. With modern technology, we would all be better off escaping the rat maze that is the current system, and rebuilding a new agrarian based society with advancing technology.

Sounds nice. We shall see.

Birth rates can change very quickly. Developed nations with lower birthrates are moving in the right direction. Oil production has lead to over population, and lower birthrates are simply natural trends moving us towards more solid population levels. Europe is already moving towards a solution to Islam. As the power of the ICBs wanes, nature will take over.

Interesting assumptions. However, there has NEVER BEEN A SINGLE CASE in all recorded history of a culture below the replacement birth rate EVER RECOVERING. All recorded history is quite a bit of data.

Most evidence demonstrates that climate change is due to man made causes, but that argument is mute. Even drastic changes will not reverse climate change for a long long time. The smart thing to do is prepare for these inevitable changes.

I think John Moore has done his homework on this one.

Throw in all the proofs about skull duggary on the part of the government and coerced "climate scientists" and the truth is a huge set of hideous lies. There may be some degree of global warming. There may be a looming ice age. The clearest evidence is that mankind 'burning' and producing greenhouse gasses is NOT the cause of global warming.

reply to post by BO XIAN


Except that rumors of secret hidden reserves far greater than has ever been found are too good to be true. The industry wouldn't be investing in tar sands and small reserves if such large reserves were available. Simple economics dictates this reality. Why such a large push to build a pipeline to hard to refine oil sources, when these larges resources are available.

People are being intentionally deceived. Those reserves do not exist, and they are not being reported by any legitimate sources.

maybe the chinese will send in there woman army to take us over just to laugh at us

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WRONG.

My sources are legitimate sources--IN THE INDUSTRY.

LIFELONG IN THE INDUSTRY.

I know they have the experience, positions etc. to know the truth.

I know they are honest with me.

You certainly don't have to believe me or them or the truth.

It will mostly be moot within 5-15 years anyway. Possibly within 1-3 years as they crash the developed world down around everyone's knees.

Evidently you are negating the

power and the goals and methods

of these power-mongers:

twoday.net...

The fracking and other complex extraction methods achieve some of their goals . . . they don't WANT cheap easily gotten oil out of those reserves.
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reply to post by BO XIAN


Or they choose to believe what they are being told out of complete wishful thinking.

All evidence points to this being completely wrong.

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by BO XIAN

 

All evidence points to this being completely wrong.

WRONG.

The evidence you seem to respect and pay attention to from the globalist totally owned MSM and other public sources . . .

"All evidence" does NOT show your assertions to be correct.

The folks I've spoken to have been in position to have known or even seen the raw data from the reserve fields.

The rest of them have been either of sufficient rank or close enough to those of sufficient rank to have known the basic facts of the vast reserves.

Some of the stuff about the Dakota fields as well as the deep Rocky Mountain field has been posted on ATS and other fairly normal media routes.

Of course the MSM didn't touch it and it quickly faded to black.

Nevertheless, quite a number of people know the facts.

Of course there are many who refuse to face the facts.

reply to post by BO XIAN


Yeah sure, there is a secret oil reserve ten times bigger than any known field ever tapped.

Sorry, but this is a ridiculous claim, told by people to other people who do not want to face the realities of our current situation.

Your source is an unsubstantiated rumor put out by a priest.

My sources are wide and broad, and can be easily verified.

reply to post by poet1b

Your source is an unsubstantiated rumor put out by a priest.

WRONG AGAIN.

1. Lindsey Williams was a Protestant chaplain--not a priest.

2. Lindsey Williams' assertions have been confirmed to me personally by

A) a long time family friend who is like blood relations to my family and who works still on the North Slope pipeline.

B) Another BP mid-level executive type in the local oil field.

C) Another BP mid-level executive type in the local oil field.

3. There was an old book from decades ago asserting similar things about secret reserves in the Dakotas. That would be reserves IN ADDITION to the recently publicized ones.

4. Are you denying the widely publicized Balkin field reserves?

You know there are technologies Under patent right now that can solve our dependence on oil for gas. The infamous hydrogen engine. If i rember correctly it basically uses salt water that is split into its component parts producing hydrogen gas and igniting it for power.There are also Ethanol engines too,but the rubber seals in the motors have a habit of decomposing in half the time regular fueled engines do. I predict in the future the end of the gasoline powered vehicle,but only after the Oil price goes up so high there are riots in the streets.

reply to post by BO XIAN


I know you really want to believe this is true, but the fact remains we are running out of the easy to get quality crude.

The Balkin field reserves are trapped in shale, which make it extremely difficult to extract. With current technology, they are only able to extract a small percentage of the oil, and it is extremely harmful to the environment. They have known about this reserve for a very long time, and they have not attempted to extract the oil for this very reason. It would be extremely expensive, and not economically feasible.

reply to post by yuppa


There are many technologies that can solve our dependence on oil. Being that there were these large reserves of easy to get oil, alternative energy sources have been locked out of the market.

As these oil reserves run out, and we start depending on other technologies, it will greatly benefit average workers, because our energy sources will not be easily controlled, and will be far more labor intensive to produce.

All the same, we will have to change our ways, and greatly reduce our energy usage.

It will force us to greatly change our communities, the way we manufacture, and the quality of what we manufacture.