USA/CIA/NATO Continues to Fuel GENOCIDE of Syrian Civilians

reply to post by ComeFindMe


I'll quote you again;

You hate America / The CIA / Israel / Bill Cosby, we get it.

The only problem is you deflect all criticism of your view as being propaganda or propaganda-fed. In reality, all parties know that it isn't. There is overwhelming evidence from sources innumerable that the Syrian Government are overseeing the killing of innocent citizens - this is not just Western sources but Arab sources too.

You are burying your head in the sand....that sand is fast becoming covered with the blood of innocent people.

You are saying that someone's head was in the sand and the blood of innocent people is on them because they allow "bloodshed" by a government cracking down on their citizens.

Yet, Bahrain is under a crackdown of police, and military brutality, amounting to deaths of innocent protesters in a similar fashion as to what the western MSM is "allegedly" saying to be happening in Syria.

Because the crackdown in Bahrain is not being mentioned by MSM, people don't know about it.

I mentioned this point as a reference to your use of hand-in-the-sand and propaganda. Silence is the best form of propaganda. And the Bahraini monarchy is not being outed for "terrorising it's citizens" because the US and UK have influence within that country, not to mention military bases on it's soil.

By that, i was getting the point across that outside forces are at work to cause instability and blame simply because the Assad regime is not an asset to the US, UK or NATO.

While comparing Syria to Bahrain might be apples and oranges, they both have the same THING regarding both nations coming from the MSM, which is lies.

Syria as a nation is under attack by terrorists, not peaceful protestors.
Bahrain on the otherhand is, and those protestor's are victims of the monarchy.

If Syria had US bases and were a key asset to securing "national security interests" in the region, Bahrain would be the one under attack by Al Qeada and the Syriann crackdown would be silenced form the MSM.

The western team of puppets only report what they are told to report and it impacts the populations opinion heavily.

Originally posted by InsideYourMind

You are saying that someone's head was in the sand and the blood of innocent people is on them because they allow "bloodshed" by a government cracking down on their citizens.

No, i combined two figures of speech to evoke an image. I did not at any time suggest the blood was on their hands. To clarify, the individual had their head in the sand because they (in my opinion) were failing to take into account valid criticism. The comment regarding blood on the sand was an evocative reference to blood being spilt on sand, in an exotic foreign country. If I wanted to suggest to someone they had blood on their hands, I would do.

Yet, Bahrain is under a crackdown of police, and military brutality, amounting to deaths of innocent protesters in a similar fashion as to what the western MSM is "allegedly" saying to be happening in Syria.

Because the crackdown in Bahrain is not being mentioned by MSM, people don't know about it.

And I have not disputed this. Start a thread on it and if I have a point to make I will do so. I cannot possibly mention every perceived slight against societies in one thread or post - why would I bring it up here unless I felt it was directly relevant? There are injustices all across the world right now - shall i mention them all?

I mentioned this point as a reference to your use of hand-in-the-sand and propaganda. Silence is the best form of propaganda. And the Bahraini monarchy is not being outed for "terrorising it's citizens" because the US and UK have influence within that country, not to mention military bases on it's soil.

By that, i was getting the point across that outside forces are at work to cause instability and blame simply because the Assad regime is not an asset to the US, UK or NATO.

If silence is a form of propaganda, are we supposed to have a thread on every possible issue at any possible time? You have raised a very valid point above - but how is it applicable to this topic right now? Am I supposed to break off and start using a Syria thread to discuss current affairs in Bahrain? No doubt I would then be a 'shill' trying to distract people from the 'truth' in Syria!

While comparing Syria to Bahrain might be apples and oranges, they both have the same THING regarding both nations coming from the MSM, which is lies.

Hang on, how can they be lying about Bahrain if you just said Bahrain isnt being mentioned by the MSM - which is it?

If Syria had US bases and were a key asset to securing "national security interests" in the region, Bahrain would be the one under attack by Al Qeada and the Syriann crackdown would be silenced form the MSM.

Don't Russia use Syrian bases and resources....and didn't Russia veto a recent resolution? Strange coincidence that!

reply to post by ComeFindMe


Syria recently arrested 49 turkish intelligence officers disguised as rebels.
www.naharnet.com...
Turkey is NATO.

Turkey is in charge of providing terrorist groups with information on Syrian troop movements. Turkish 'intelligence' conducts radio-electronic reconnaissance on Syrian military communications as well. Seven Turkish intelligence officers were arrested in Syria. They confessed that they have been trained in special assassinations, bombing and explosions operations by the Mossad in Israel. Additionally, a month ago, 49 Turkish intelligence officers were arrested in Syria. Seven of them are high ranking officers of 'intelligence' services of Turkey.

www.dp-news.com...

reply to post by ComeFindMe


So like when will you guys return Malvinas to Argentina and remove the banker occupation of the White House.You guys ethnically cleansed Malvinas and renamed it Falklands.

Indeed, talk about national pride, Argentineans widespread boldy pride themselves in exterminating 99.9% of the native South Americans, and it can be seen readily in Argentineans looking more italian/european than Brazilians, Peruvians, Chileans, by far.

Back to Syria, likewise couldn't look heading more GRIMM



it's China/Russia against the imperial WEST/Al-CIADA

reply to post by ignant


and the british use to love to bleat about how they crushed and starved India ,thus leading to mass murders of 1.8 billion indians in 200 years.Sad ,USA has aligned itself with the murderous royal family and the Rothschilds . If Jefferson or Andrew Jackson were there they would be rolling in their graves

Originally posted by ludwigvonmises003
reply to post by ignant

 

and the british use to love to bleat about how they crushed and starved India ,thus leading to mass murders of 1.8 billion indians in 200 years.Sad ,USA has aligned itself with the murderous royal family and the Rothschilds

. If Jefferson or Andrew Jackson were there they would be rolling in their graves

No we don't. You do however, given the number of posts that you use your magical 1.8 billion figure in. You have been debunked many times Ludwig with your contortions of the truth. Go away.

reply to post by ComeFindMe


you haven't debunked it. Fact is fact.

reply to post by ludwigvonmises003



First Source: Yes, Turkish intelligence officers supposedly in Syria (unconfirmed by Turkey, but lets go mad and play devils advocate). So where is the indication that they were fuelling genocide?

Does anyone hear really think that ANY major nation doesn't have spies in every other major country in the world? The contention is not that NATO has a prescence in a country - it is that they are fuelling genocide.

Second Source: A perfect example of propaganda - the writer refers to Erdogan as a "hypocrite" and the piece is largely opinion and sensationalism. Lazy, careless propaganda.

reply to post by ComeFindMe


Turkish intelligence officers were helping the FSA, which is essentially muslim brotherhood.

The radio said Syria had laid down three conditions for any release: an exchange of the Turkish officers for rebel Free Syrian Army members in Turkish territory, for Turkey to halt infiltrations by the FSA, and for Turkey to stop training its members.

enough said...

reply to post by ludwigvonmises003


Radio = source unattributed

It seems very obvious to me that Syria would say that, wouldn't they? Just like any conflict, you would air the worst grievances as a basis for your actions.

Originally posted by ComeFindMe
reply to post by ludwigvonmises003

 

Radio = source unattributed

It seems very obvious to me that Syria would say that, wouldn't they? Just like any conflict, you would air the worst grievances as a basis for your actions.

and its obvious that NATO would say lies too.

www.naharnet.com...

Sham FM radio.Have you been to Deraa when the terrorism started? My uzbek friend and I were there.Anyways our franchisee business was shut down after the start of Turkish sponsored Muslim Brotherhood terror in Syria.

Who created Muslim Brotherhood? guess again UK's Mi6.

Somebody should glass UK.Will rid the world and USA of this financial mooching parasite called Rothschild.

www.albawaba.com...

Riyadh,Doha ,Ankara and Tel aviv are funding the genocide.

reply to post by ludwigvonmises003


Exactly, so why pull one country up on it and not the other?

I'll take your word for the franchise issue, which is obviously a sad story.

Given you allege you were there, I have to ask - did you see any violent crackdown by the Syrian Gov, or indeed any actions that may be provocative?

reply to post by ComeFindMe


the things are like this

1) Some Shia or christian is raped,murdered by the muslim brotherhood affiliated gangs.Even secular sunnis are targetted
2) communities go cry for protection to the Syrian govt.
3) Syrian police /army is sent to arrest/detain the 'protestors' which are sectarian armed gangs.
4) shootout between gangs and army occurs and innocents get killed in the crossfire.
5) Western media blames the syrian army.Syrian,Iranian,Eastern european media blames the gangs.


Its increasingly becoming sectarian with Doha,Ankara,Riyadh trying to make it a shia vs sunni thing. Iran and Syria are trying to keep unity .Minorities like syrian orthodox and Druze and shias are terrified.No one in Syria wants sectarian fighting.

reply to post by ludwigvonmises003


That's very sad to hear, but I suspect this is far from the whole story.

Just a cursory sweep of news sites yields this:

jordantimes.com... - refugee camps being set up

www.ft.com... – Attacking civilian areas

www.humanrightsfirst.org... - human rights groups – mentioning, I may add, supposed ‘showing of solidarity’ from Russia

I would imagine dark deeds are being committed on both sides - but a Government shelling residential areas does not, to me, sound like Government acting in its people's best interests.

reply to post by ComeFindMe


Again it is result of sectarian warfare between armed mb gangs and syrian army.Tomorrow if IRA started murdering and killing british nationals and British army was deployed to stop the violence and it would lead to a refugee crisis you call it genocide by british army?

reply to post by ComeFindMe


Also please refer to local me sites like Dailystar lebanon(anti-assad) but more unbiased compared to western media's 'sources' like Muslim brotherhood terrorists cough cough'activists'

My friends Land rover was hit by 12.7*99 mm round in Syria when muslim brotherhood declared the islamic emirate of Deraa.He was lucky he survived because the bullet missed him it though the round penetrated his vehicle.His land rover was bulletproof.Now he has a Kombat T-98 for the time being as he winds up his businesses in Deraa ,Damascus ,Beirut. He believes muslim brotherhood is going to plunge ME into civil wars.

reply to post by ludwigvonmises003


If the British army shelled civilian areas I would be outraged, as would 99.9% of the population.

If the British army fired live ammunition at hitherto peaceful protesters I would be outraged, as would 99.9% of the population.

If the British Government tried to destroy everything, knowing that they were on their way out, I would be outraged, as would 99.9% of the population.

None of this has happened and its very inprobable it ever will. It has happened in Syria and thats why people are outraged. The Muslim Brotherhood may well be stirring discontent on the streets - the answer to that is not to rule with an iron fist and disable any opposition.

Originally posted by ludwigvonmises003
reply to post by ComeFindMe

 

Also please refer to local me sites like Dailystar lebanon(anti-assad) but more unbiased compared to western media's 'sources' like Muslim brotherhood terrorists cough cough'activists'

edit on 21-2-2012 by ludwigvonmises003 because: (no reason given)

Ahh, selective referencing. I'll humour you though - you may not like this - taken from your suggested site:

www.dailystar.com.lb...

The PSP leader has repeatedly called on Assad, who is grappling with a popular uprising now in its 11th month, to end his lethal crackdown against anti-government protests.

Rights groups estimate that over 6,000 people, mostly civilians, have been killed since the uprising began.