S.A.S Used on people of the United Kingdom

I am here to entertain.

reply to post by BASSPLYR


I am very aware that this thread has now gone off topic, the topic at hand is the use of the SAS against UK nationals on uk soil. However with that being said your views on the use of American Special Forces on American soil are just as wrong. Put simply under the insurrection Act and the Posse Comitatus Act mean that it would take a Act of Congress before authorisation could be given for the Green Berets or any other Special Forces unit to be deployed to actively pursue terrorists on the streets of America. That is absolute fact, it is very very difficult to gain authorisation for the type of operations you are talking about. If this were to be done it would be Delta most likely who would provide the support. Other than this American Armed Forces are only aloud to provide tactical advice to law enforcement this can include training and tactical advice such as method of entry options. They cannot apprehend or otherwise naturalise any terrorist suspects on the continental united states nor can they be actively involved in such actions without Congressional approval.

In such a instance whereby the authorisation had been given for SOCOM to provide support to law enforcement to combat a terrorist threat, it would almost always fall to Tire-One assets, the Green Berets are not Tire-One, the entire unit is considered to be Tire-Two. Likewise when it comes to providing tactical advice this is almost always done by Delta or NSWDG. No law enforcement agency would ever need to go to the military for linguistic support the FBI have plenty of linguists themselves and aside from that if they did need support the military is the last place they would go to for it. Yes the Green Berets are renowned for their linguistic skills and their ability to blend with the indigenous population but this does not make them suitable for law enforcement.

I do not doubt that American counterterrorism units use civilian instillations to practice on, I know that NSWDG use oil rigs for example. But so far as buildings and airplanes go that’s what the killings houses are for. I also want to state that just because these units may use civilian instillations for exercise purposes does not mean they are actively deployed.

Also, SAD are not Tire-One as they are not part of the military.

A guy mentioned at a pub I frequent, that the person behind the original sas stalker thing this thread started about: may live a shorter life than expected. I never told anyone about this thread, or that I am on ATS. So how did he know? I do think he wanted attention. It could have been a veiled threat, that I was too naive to catch on to. Just thought I'd mention it. It is quite funny: I think so anyway.
Sorry about the little men I thought it lifted it a bit when I came in late.

I have no views on special forces used on American soil as I am not an American. However another bloke who told me about being followed by SAS contacted me saying he had received veiled threats from a 2 men dressed like the men in black. That's right like the guys who appear after UFO stuff. What the hell the men in black have to do about this I do not know. The man in question had seen a UFO just before being followed and people identifying themselves as the SAS.

reply to post by s12345


your headline is completely wrong as you have no proof. its like the daily papers quoting a 'source' or a 'friend' when they make up a story which is all crap.
as for the miners strike which i lived through and was in the 80's and not the 90's as you said, can you explain fully where and when and why were the SAS involved in it?
i do know the army were helping out etc but the SAS?
why not put a headline like the daily crap did once and said a ww2 bomber was on the moon?
too many headlines in the forum without a bit of proof and the SAS have more important things to do without following people for no reason, a terrorist yes, but for the fun of it?

Green berets weren't doing any arrests or shooting of anybody while on US soil is true, the FBI did all that, but they were asked and used by the FBI to assist in tracking terrorists in LA in 1999. they gave linguistics support because green berets are better at speaking arabic than any other unit in the us military. Delta guys that can speak foreign languages well are probably recruited from the green berets. The green berets translated arabic in real time, advised the FBI in real time while on their stakeouts. they did all of this in LA while on active duty. If you do some research you will even find the names of the green berets that were TAD to the FBI to help out. it worked out so well that they have been used again by the FBI for similar tasks.

Delta and and SEAL teams have absolutely used buildings and commercial aircraft on lone to them to train and they do it ALL THE TIME. IN THE US. read up on it will you. eric haney discusses it in his books. charlie beckwith does. richard marcinko goes into great detail about it. denis chalker does too. They aren't shooting live rounds inside they are learning how to maneuver they need the real deal for this not a kill house. how on earth are you going to learn to be stealthy climbing on the outside of a hijacked commercial craft from a mock up in a kill house. you need the real thing because there are all these little factors that you won't even know about until you try a dynamic entry on a real plane. like they discovered that the hostages and "terrorists" could notice the subtle shaking of the aircraft when the assult teams would attempt to sneak up on the wings. you have to train dynamic entry on just about every commercial aircraft you are likely to have a scenerio in. it simply won't do to have a generic mockup of say a 747 and then think you can transfer that skill to a DC-10 or a 727. the points of entry are different the layouts different the strategies different for each and every aircraft. They practice on loaned out cruise ships too. it's in the airline and cruiselines best interest and the military's too. Want to learn to storm a skyscraper you are going to have to practice on a real sky scraper not a set inside a kill house.

The SAS were involved because the government at the time thought of socialism as near to communism ad so whe Margret Thatcher wanted the SAS in they went in. This is the same reason why Tony Blair got into power. At this time Tony Blair was working for Mi6 telling them which members of the labour parts were too Marxist: he used this to get rid of his competition which eventually led to him running the labour party. It was Mi6 which did not want to be embarrassed by a PM being their spy. In actual fact he used them.

ACTUALLY THE MEN IN BLACK STUFF WAS A JOKE BUT DUE TO THE AMOUNT OF # ON OTS I WAS BETTING NOBODY WOULD THINK IT STRANGE.


BUT ON ATS EVERYTHING IS THE WRONG WAY AROUND. A PERSON TALKING ABOUT AN ALIEN ABDUCTION IS CLASSED AS REAL. BUT SAS BEING USED ON PEOPLE OF THE UK IS UNDER HIGHLY SPECULATIVE CONSPIRACY TOPICS.

reply to post by s12345


The SAS are not being used against the people of the United Kingdom, you have no evidence to corroborate your claims and as such to call it highly speculative is pushing it, I would call it as it is. You have just made these claims up of the top of your head for something to talk about.

Prove me wrong by showing me some evidence that the SAS are being used to threaten the people of the UK.

Lots of people know they have been used in the past, people have talked here who have known it. Like it or not witnesses are evidence. Also I cannot believe that you actually believe that the entertaining but factual # about aliens, time travel .... should be on the real basket on ATS but things that have a real chance of being real aren't. But believe me or not if you want. ATS is a buffet take what you want forget the rest.

reply to post by s12345


I don’t believe any of the stuff about aliens and time travel just like I don’t believe that the UK government would bother using the SAS to intimidate members of the public. Do you have any evidence that the SAS is being used to intimidate members of the public.

A link will do fine

Look at the part about the miners strike and keep reading. It says how he was instrumental in getting the SAS to be used against the miners.


en.wikipedia.org...(UK_political_activist)

reply to post by s12345


That’s wikipeida , the most unreliable source on the internet and it does not back up your claims as what is says is that

His involvement in aiding working miners extended to employing former members of the SAS to protect the families of working miners

Just to highlight one word “FORMER” members of the SAS as in no longer serving.

I also want to point out that this was over 20 years ago now, you’re talking in your op like this is happening today. Your link does not prove anything to back up what you have said in your OP all it does is say that ex-SAS helped to protect working miners. And its Wiki so if I want to I could just go ahead and change it.

Once again you have not proved anything.

reply to post by s12345


That’s wikipeida , the most unreliable source on the internet and it does not back up your claims as what is says is that

His involvement in aiding working miners extended to employing former members of the SAS to protect the families of working miners

Just to highlight one word “FORMER” members of the SAS as in no longer serving.

I also want to point out that this was over 20 years ago now, you’re talking in your op like this is happening today. Your link does not prove anything to back up what you have said in your OP all it does is say that ex-SAS helped to protect working miners. And its Wiki so if I want to I could just go ahead and change it.

Once again you have not proved anything.

What you really mean is you are sycophantic person who goes wobbly kneed at the thought of the S.A.S. or any special forces, and therefore they must be really lovely people. Are you really for real. You don't want evidence you want people to lie to you so you can go on believing the lie that helps you sleep at night.

reply to post by s12345


Why not just accept that you are wrong, the SAS are not used by the government to intimidate members of the public. You have zero evidence to back up this claim and I have explained to you why your allegation is so wrong.

I do not worship Special Forces nor do I think of them as superhuman, if you wanted to I could start talking to you about the failures of special forces including those of the SAS. That however is not the topic of conversation.

I've already proved it. You want to believe that they cannot do this because the world is populated by good people and only good people join the military and especially the special forces.

reply to post by s12345


if the sas are in on it, the target must be dangerous enough to warrant their involvement.
mobile violence units are there to enlighten those who wish to do us harm whilst we sleep
safely in our beds.
perhaps your source was mistaken regarding the van. 'sponge and soap' mobile valeting service?
was money owed for the extra shampoo? perhaps it's pub talk about blokes dressing up and
playing silly games for the buzz/power trip. wannabees binned after the first slap?
a loose comparison to your op is using a rocket engineer to change plug fuses.

i've come across a few knobs quietly claiming saturdays and sundays membership only to be bubbled
after a few enquiries. it's as tight as a crabs backside.
f.

Obviously in light of the recent newspaper headline that the SAS killed Diana, then obviously the stuff in this thread needs to be taken much more seriously. If they can kill Diana, and kill a person from the uk on anothers soil, then they certainly can kill a uk person on their own soil.

Don't just look at Diana, as the mother of William and Harry: look at her as a uk person and so if she can be killed you can too. We should all worry: but not because of what has happened, but because of what can, will and is happening.

Originally posted by werewolf99
Obviously in light of the recent newspaper headline that the SAS killed Diana, then obviously the stuff in this thread needs to be taken much more seriously. If they can kill Diana, and kill a person from the uk on anothers soil, then they certainly can kill a uk person on their own soil.

Don't just look at Diana, as the mother of William and Harry: look at her as a uk person and so if she can be killed you can too. We should all worry: but not because of what has happened, but because of what can, will and is happening.

No just, no

the recent speculation about the SAS's possible role in the Diana's death in no way makes the OP more credible

reply to post by Kester


FYI America "Travellers" are Gypsies,
Haven't got a clue about the "new" part though.
"Sweepers" were usually intel pukes "Contractors" are usually former operators.
You wouldn't use operators for a sweeper job as it is usually too pricey,unless a national asset is in play.
I would say for the blackest operations most are cutouts from military or confirmed sociopaths for wet missions,in America.