Should it be legal to kill pet cats roaming around the neighbourhood?

www.youtube.com... www.youtube.com... Theres my mean wombat and koala proof kitty wants none of that.

Originally posted by intrepid
reply to post by TheCommentator

 

You are REALLY going to need a link to back that up. I've had cats my whole life and I never saw one that would attack an animal that big. They just scoot away. Cats are selective. Did you know that 2 cats won't fight unless they both decide to?

You got to remember its harder to find sources on Australian stuff then it would be american but here are a few:
www.couriermail.com.au...
www.thekoala.com...

reply to post by TheCommentator


Someone saying the same thing as the OP with no statistics or science just opinion give it up already. You had your fun. My kitty say Op gots ownt.

Originally posted by TheCommentator
You got to remember its harder to find sources on Australian stuff then it would be american but here are a few:
www.couriermail.com.au...
www.thekoala.com...

I'm Canadian dude. I read those articles. They say "dogs and cats". Dogs I can definitely see doing that as they have the size. Pretty ingenious to lump the cats in there though.

Originally posted by Darkchemistry
reply to post by TheCommentator

 

Someone saying the same thing as the OP with no statistics or science just opinion give it up already. You had your fun. My kitty say Op gots ownt.

How old are you?

Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by TheCommentator
You got to remember its harder to find sources on Australian stuff then it would be american but here are a few:
www.couriermail.com.au...
www.thekoala.com...

I'm Canadian dude. I read those articles. They say "dogs and cats". Dogs I can definitely see doing that as they have the size. Pretty ingenious to lump the cats in there though.

The point is that dogs are being restricted from doing that while cats are still allowed to do it.
Its well known cats attack koalas and wombats
I dont get you peoples logic, what is wrong with putting our native animals first

Not a happy or good thread. I know there are a lot of cat-haters out there, because they are ignorant of the nature of felines.

I moved out to the middle of freaking nowhere with my 9 cats, because the suburban neighborhood we came from had some kids that thought it was fun to torture small cats, and a neighbor behind us called animal control every time he saw a cat on our adjoining fence. Despite our purchasing a $250 motion-activated sprinkler system for him, he never used the sprinklers and continued to be a jerk about it. I guess he sold the system on e-Bay.

We had specific guidelines for the place we would purchase: At least 1/2 a mile from the road, and NO close neighbors. It took a year of looking, but we found the perfect cat habitat. When we moved in, it was overrun with prairie dogs and moles. The yard was riddled with holes and the phone lines were constantly being chewed up. Rats and mice were up in the attic, in the walls and had nests all over in the fields. The native population of hawks and coyotes were not enough to keep them at bay.

The first 6 months, our cats cleaned up all the vermin. We have the nicest lawn within 10 miles because we don't have a ton of mole holes dug in it. No more mouse poo in the cupboards and no more hearing rats and mice dig in our walls and chew our wires. The phone guy who hooked up our landline stated that he used to have to come out every few months and patch the line in the ground. We haven't had to call him, ever.

Are domestic cats native to this part of Texas? Not at all. Neither are humans. However, since we're here, our cats help to keep our place clean and vermin-free. We let them out when the sun comes up, and bring them in when the sun goes down, because the coyotes are thick out here and pass through our yard on a nightly basis. Do we shoot the coyotes? No. The night belongs to them and we respect that. We have a great deal of birds here, different types at different times of the year. Our cats don't catch too many of them, because they're too smart to be caught. Our cats have never caught a road runner, because those suckers are too quick. Many of the native birds here are thriving, and our cats don't even bother to try and catch them anymore.

Felis Catus Domesticus is one of the most successful species on this planet, because they can adapt to a wide variety of climates, diets, and human-wrought environments. Even though the ignorant medieval Europeans equated cats to the devil and had fun with public cat-killing displays, cats endured and survived. Had the Europeans left them alone, the plague would never have had a chance to take root.

To the poster who complains that his dog barks at cats outside and wakes the baby, perhaps he would like it better if baby's Cheerios were riddled with mouse poo and rats cruised the floors at night, dragging their testicles on the carpet that the baby crawls on.

reply to post by FissionSurplus
Well hey its only native speices that need to suffer for your happiness, who cares right

Originally posted by WeRpeons
reply to post by TsukiLunar

 

Simple, if you can't leash a cat, keep them in your house! If it's against the law for dogs to roam unleashed than it doesn't give a cat owner the right to let their cats roam. Cats by their very nature are prowling predators.

LMAO@hypocrisy

maybe your parents should have kept YOUR DOG leashed and confined, THEN maybe your dog wouldn't have ran out into the street chasing a cat. i open my front doors all the time, even when there is a cat outside the door. do my cats run outside and try to attack it? nope

LOL you people are calling koalas and wombats defenseless against cats?

wow what is in the water you guys drink in australia?

Animals are suppose to run around outside not being inside all the time seriously what's wrong with a cat around the neighborhood, most cats do that and go back home and inside to eat(some cats eat outside that are fed) cause not everyone has a fenced yard. Even with a fenced yard cats jump over it anyway to explore.Dogs on the other hand are a different story.

Why does a cat need to legally be killed just because its an animal that's suppose to be outside, human beings are not the only ones on the earth!

I do agree though that vicious cats without shots should be put in a shelter if no one owns it.. animal control does that already even cats with shots just trying to be a cat living outside in peace with nature who do have a home, but the people who don't want cats in their yard report them. Legally killing a cat in your yard is wrong on many different ways especially if its not violent.

My neighbor has her cat outside all the time with her shots and roams in my large yard and I dont really mind cause my puppy likes to chase them. Anyway killing a cat that someone else owns or doesn't own is once again wrong!!

I am all for catching the cats and bringing them to a shelter or dropping them off outside city limits. I get really sick and tired of smelling cat urine in our flower beds and against our house. Equally sickening are all of the dead birds we find in our yard that are half eaten, feathers everywhere. We have literally seen the cats catch the birds, and we are constantly trying to chase cats away so that they don't capture, torture and eventually kill the small helpless animals that they catch. Maybe if the owners of the cats get a nice little fine or have to pay fees to get their little torturing murderers out of the shelter they will perhaps keep them under control like they should to begin with.

Cats are the owners responsibility, and not the responsibility of the neighborhood.

reply to post by intrepid


The size of the dogs actually works against them, they can't climb.

Dogs have been living here for 4000 years and have managed to become almost native, but recently introduced species are a HUGE problem for our island country. The increasing population and suburban sprawl has brought cats out to sensitive areas.

I don't think we should harm cats at all as they did not choose to come here and are just doing what they naturally do, its the owners who let them out who should be fined, if they don't want them to be a house cat then they shouldn't have them. Inner city areas could be alright though as the cats are more likely to be killing vermin but Australian cities are very spread out so only a small amount of owners could do this.

Originally posted by Hardstepah
LOL you people are calling koalas and wombats defenseless against cats?

wow what is in the water you guys drink in australia?

A cat can make mince meat of these little guys..





And here is a full sized sugar glider...

This Sugar Glider was the victim of a cat attack - its spine was broken in the attack. A tiny little baby glider is hanging from the mother's pouch. The baby is the little pink thing about the size of a jelly bean - it was far too small to survive. Both the mum and baby died as a result of the attack. Prowling cats are a menace to native wildlife. If you want lots of wildlife in your garden, then it is important to keep cats indoors at night.

www.ozanimals.com...

squirels and babies i'll give you. however that is the mistake of the parent animals for leaving their young un-attended. if these were dingo attacks im sure you guys wouldn't be crying

reply to post by Hardstepah


The parent animal did not evolve to have to defend their young from cats so it is NOT a neglect or incompetence on behalf of the parent. Rather the cause is humans introducing a new species into a fragile ecosystem.

BTW Sugar gliders are marsupials and so not related to squirrels which are rodents.

So this is an australian problem is it? There are no native wild cats in australia at all? Back in NY and here in canada, bobcats, lynx and pumas are a bit more of a threat than house cats and they have lived here forever....

So everyone in this thread only cares about their cats and no one gives a toss about native species.

I would like to point out most people who are the nay sayers are from different countries.

Its a bit like me coming forward and saying I seen Bigfoot when I don't live in America.

Point being you don't have a clue as to what is happening in nature over here, you don't get local news reports. local newspapers that report on this matter.

reply to post by amraks


Point is that if you live in a local 'neighbourhood' as the thread title implies, then human encroachment has done much more to affect the imbalance of your 'native' species than any cat ever will. Damage is done.

If there are feral cats out in the wild running amok and disturbing the balance by all means cull.

If your neighbours cat pisses you off you do not have the psychopathic free pass to Kill it!! Toughen up and smarten up!!

evidence of 1 speices we have lost.

en.wikipedia.org...



Some news links

news.google.com...

www.smh.com.au...