Can anyone decipher what this seal may mean?

I've been working around this symbol for a little while and never really took notice of it until someone brought it to my attention. It looks like some water in the middle with ships but it's hard to make out in that picture of it.

Then there looks like a blind checks and balance system and then the eagle is above the world and everything below. Just a little odd, but I thought ATS could appreciate it. Also this is an election seal.

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The scales represent law, order and justice. The Albatros represents vigilence over the world below and protection. The two people are the gate keepers and the sun rising over the land in fron of an ocean filled with boats. It just represents the wold and society around us.

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I believe that is the seal of the state of NY. Probably used by NY elections dept.

Upon very first glance, it appears that the moon in the middle and the mountain it stands upon, together look like the owl from B.G.. scary!

I dont know what the symbol as a whole is.. but looks like lady justice is on the right, american eagle in the top center, some woman with a staff, perhaps meaning wisdom?

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Well, on the right 'justice is blind'. The top, imo, is the arrogance of the U.S. 'above the rest of the world'. Lady justice and her fallicaly armed counterpart seem to have control over the boxed in symbol of international trade, hence the ships. Funny how even our sun is boxed into U.S. control.

Excelsior...wher have I...Al Gore?

Did you just trick me into taking a pseudo-rorschach test???

Hehe. Maybe the blind figure represents the electoral 'college'.

Originally posted by Trublbrwing
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I believe that is the seal of the state of NY. Probably used by NY elections dept.

I believe that you are quite likely correct. I also believe that the meaning of the seal can be found at the link below.

New York Sate Senate - Meaning of the State Seal

1. In the center, a shield reveals the sun rising behind Mount Beacon over the Hudson River. "The shield symbolizes in the full sun the name and idea of Old York and the old world; the mountains, river and meadow, with the ships, convey the name and idea of New York in the new world."

2. To the right, Justice is ready to fight tyranny with her sword held high.

3. Liberty on the left, holds her foot on the overthrown English Crown. "This New York is supported by Justice and Liberty, and discards monarchy."

4. The world globe is displayed above the shield. "By exhibiting the eastern and western continents on the globe, the old and new are brought together;"

5. Above the world globe soars the eagle. "while the eagle on the crest proclaims," Westward the course of empire takes its way."

6. The bottom ribbon exclaims "Excelsior," which means "still higher" or "ever upward."

Justice is on the right, and Liberty on the left? Isn’t the Eagle on the earth a Navy symbol? Is that the May Flower on the water? Maybe?

The word 'excelsior' on the seal is the name of a town, (there's about 1-2 dozen towns in the world who share the name), so the harbor could be an image of a known landmark in the area.
The lady on the left is law and the one on the right could be commerce or peace; can't tell. They are both touching the shield around the harbor, signifying wealth and law must be held in high esteem.
The world and eagle in the center could represent anything; unity, military... Could also just be a filler to make the seal more symmetrical

is that mountain and the sun supposed to show the " all seeing eye"
the figure on the right seems to be blind! does anybody know what she represents?

never mind! i missed that next post

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It's the great seal of New York. LINK

It was the inspiration for this poem by Longfellow.

62. Excelsior

THE SHADES of night were falling fast,
As through an Alpine village passed
A youth, who bore, 'mid snow and ice,
A banner with the strange device,
Excelsior! 5

His brow was sad; his eye beneath,
Flashed like a falchion from its sheath,
And like a silver clarion rung
The accents of that unknown tongue,
Excelsior! 10

In happy homes he saw the light
Of household fires gleam warm and bright;
Above, the spectral glaciers shone,
And from his lips escaped a groan,
Excelsior! 15

"Try not the Pass!" the old man said;
"Dark lowers the tempest overhead,
The roaring torrent is deep and wide!"
And loud that clarion voice replied,
Excelsior! 20

"Oh, stay," the maiden said, "and rest
Thy weary head upon this breast!"
A tear stood in his bright blue eye,
But still he answered, with a sigh,
Excelsior! 25

"Beware the pine-tree's withered branch!
Beware the awful avalanche!"
This was the peasant's last Good-night,
A voice replied, far up the height,
Excelsior! 30

At break of day, as heavenward
The pious monks of Saint Bernard
Uttered the oft-repeated prayer,
A voice cried through the startled air,
Excelsior! 35

A traveller, by the faithful hound,
Half-buried in the snow was found,
Still grasping in his hand of ice
That banner with the strange device,
Excelsior! 40

There, in the twilight cold and gray,
Lifeless, but beautiful, he lay,
And from the sky, serene and far,
A voice fell, like a falling star,
Excelsior!

no one mentions the mushroom cult hat on top of the staff? If it weren't 2:30am I would probably remember what that 'hat' was supposed to mean.. but I know it means something dang it ~.^

oh ya.. also the difference in garb with the two figures; one on our left has the 'circle' neckline and the right has the 'square'.. so theres a triangle somewhere but.. 2:30am again.. also.. what is at the foot of the figure on our left.. wind? This is a typical "drip with so much fricken symbolism" you will miss it thing.. my 2cents is on a Masonic origin.

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hey.. replying to myself.. never a good sign.. anywho.. it is a New York seal and that 'thing' and the bottom of the left figure's foot is a crown.. of all things.

Ha I probably should of looked into that. Thanks a bunch guys because I thought the seal was just unique to our agency. So I guess all agencies probably use the same seal.

It's probably a government stamp for boats. Just makes the most sense.