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Originally posted by Heros_son
reply to post by Seed76
The Huffington Post reported the average age of Greek retirement is 53.
HERE
The Washinton Post reported Greek retirement age is 53.
HEREedit on 16-2-2012 by Heros_son because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Seed76
reply to post by Heros_son
You can believe whatever, you want too. But sometimes you have to do some research. For example your retirement age.
The first source is from the German "Spiegel", which had an interesting article called :The Myth of a Lazy Southern Europe- Merkel´s Cliches Debunked by Statistics.
The second Source: OECD, based on national labour force surveys.
Peace
One hundred thousand "dead souls" take pensions in Greece
Over one hundred thousand pensioners in Greece are "dead souls" as revealed by the census carried out by National Insurance Institute IKA. Until yesterday, the institute had registered 898,643 retirees who receive primary or secondary pension, and 109,421 did not appear at all. This probably means that the rightful claimants are deceased and their families continued to receive their pensions illegally.
According to IKA’s manager Rovertos Spiropoulos, the Institute will stop paying those pensioners who are "not counted". "Those who were negligent can go to any bank branch and be counted. We will pay them their pensions and they will continue to receive them only then. "
He said that the Institute will investigate the cases of non census retirees. "If it is proved that they illegally received pensions we will require that they or their heirs return the amounts within ten years, and we will begin criminal persecution against them too."
Rovertos Spiropoulos said that if the number of people who illegally received pensions is equal to the number of those not counted, this will mean that the Greek National Insurance Institute is losing € 1.5 billion annually. "Within ten years, IKA’s loss will exceed € 15 billion."
www.grreporter.info...
Originally posted by Intrud3r
Im all against greedy banks, Germany trying to be the 4th Reich etc etc but don't paint this to be a war between evil vs. innocent.,
How about this:
One hundred thousand "dead souls" take pensions in Greece
Over one hundred thousand pensioners in Greece are "dead souls" as revealed by the census carried out by National Insurance Institute IKA. Until yesterday, the institute had registered 898,643 retirees who receive primary or secondary pension, and 109,421 did not appear at all. This probably means that the rightful claimants are deceased and their families continued to receive their pensions illegally.
According to IKA’s manager Rovertos Spiropoulos, the Institute will stop paying those pensioners who are "not counted". "Those who were negligent can go to any bank branch and be counted. We will pay them their pensions and they will continue to receive them only then. "
He said that the Institute will investigate the cases of non census retirees. "If it is proved that they illegally received pensions we will require that they or their heirs return the amounts within ten years, and we will begin criminal persecution against them too."
Rovertos Spiropoulos said that if the number of people who illegally received pensions is equal to the number of those not counted, this will mean that the Greek National Insurance Institute is losing € 1.5 billion annually. "Within ten years, IKA’s loss will exceed € 15 billion."
www.grreporter.info...
The whole damn Greece is corrupt from the top to bottom. Everything requires bribes in Greece, even the court system. Debt is not the problem, debt is the symptom of a corrupt country.edit on 16-2-2012 by Intrud3r because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by Vitchilo
Germany has conquered Greece before .. what's new? This time they did it without guns at least.
The only irony I see is that the Greek government has already been altered by Germany.. they even replaced the PM with an unelected Reserve Banker..
Originally posted by Heros_son
reply to post by colin42
The Greeks dug their own hole. The debt stems from the countless entitlements. It's a shining example of why "nanny states" don't work.
People can, and have, taken to the streets. Shouting blame, and pointing fingers, and of course acting violently. It was predictable that riots would start.
A little individual responsibility, and hard work would have avoided this mess.