I think I found what they were looking for in Afghanistan

So what are you trying to say? That this war is somehow about resources? I can't hardly believe that. Must be the first time in history that ever happened...

Someone should go tell the hill tribes of Burma how the USA will come and save them from their oppressors if only they knew the situation.... oh wait, they have know for the last 50 years...

Perhaps when they discover oil there....or gold....

Originally posted by Gwampo
If Afghanistan is so nutrient/resource/gold rich and we have been there for 10 years, how come our economy is in the dumpster?

Where are all those resources we have been mining?

The economy is in the dumpster by design. You can thank the FED and it's controlling Cabal for that.

They are not looking for the lithium deposits. Those things have been there for hundreds of years. The war on terror has more to do with the people than just the resources, because every nation is in the business of, er... nationing. That means all those strategic goodies in that goody bag called a country.

If they only wanted lithium they would overlook all the disagreements on religion and politics, and just set up shop for the lithium, as though they were a corporation, like an oil company, or a soda company or a farming company would. It is a nice metal but this is not a remake of a James Cameron movie. There are no sacred trees in this nation, except the people.

The best future metals are in a different country anyways.

So like all countries, the war there is for 3 reasons: location, location, and location.

Originally posted by Unvarnished
reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL

 

As an ethnic Afghan, I can tell you all this is one of the main reasons why they are in Afghanistan. Another reason is so they can watch the Russians, the Iranians, and the Pakistanis. Afghanistan is probably one of the most strategic locations for America.

Ok i'm gonna bite, this is just silliness now

Firstly, they can do all that from space, without the need of waging a "costly" war just to set up OP's (observation posts) everywhere along its boarders for christ sakes,


I can tell you all this is one of the main reasons why they are in Afghanistan


Ok then, Could you please tell me why they're not mining it after 11years of being there then? if it was the "priority number one" why are they NOT mining it please?


Lets look at facts before this BS goes any further shall we

The last mining boom in Afghanistan was over 2,000 years ago in the era of Alexander the Great, when gold, silver and precious stones were routinely mined. Geologists have known of the extent of the mineral wealth for over a century, as a result of surveys done by the British and Russians. An American company was offered a mining concession over the entire country in the 1930s but turned it down. Despite this historical knowledge, global interest was only really boosted in 2010 when the Pentagon commissioned a report from the US Geological Survey (USGS).

Right so its been know for 2.000yrs it was mineral rich, even the "Ancient Egyptians" used to mine it, hell even the Sumerians was

Some of the oldest known mines in the world believed to have been established in Afghanistan, Lapis lazuli was being mined in the Badakhshan province of Afghanistan as early as the 3rd millennium BC[6] In ancient Egypt, lapis lazuli was a favorite stone for amulets and ornaments such as scarabs and was used in Egypt’s pyramids;[7] it was also used in ancient Mesopotamia by the Sumerians, Akkadians, Assyrians, Babylonians for seals and at neolithic burials in Mehrgarh. During the height of the Indus valley civilization about 2000 BC,

Mhh Alarm bells, whats up with you i have to wonder?, what you don't even know your own history?, come on i doubt it, you're either a liar or you purposely set out to deceive the morons by not being truthful with them, you should have said its nothing new, but instead you chose to lend weight to the conspiracy, why else would you deny everybody these facts and try to act like it was some new discovery?, so obvious!

Yes the US Geological Survey (USGS). resurveyed the country in 2010 thats 9yrs after its deployment, certainly sounds like the "main reason" allied troops went to me

Ok so lets see who getting the resources? to see if we can find any truth in the claims,

President Hamid Karzai remarked "Whereas Saudi Arabia is the oil capital of the world, Afghanistan will be the lithium capital of the world, Afghanistan invited 200 global companies for the development of its mines

Ok so THE AFGHANISTAN GOVERNMENT invited 200 global companies in to develop/mine, so i guess that blows that out the water then doesn't it, hard luck, as was the plan... the mineral reserves will be used to rebuild Afghanistan, as we all know, THAT IS SOMETHING THE TALIBAN DOES NOT WANT TO SEE HAPPEN! as we all know very well the Taliban doesn't even want the development of school, dams & electricity power plants,

Ok what else

China Metallurgical Group won the bidding for a copper mining project in Aybak, Samangan, Afghanistan

Another massive hole in the conspiracy

In November 2007, a 30-year lease was granted the development of a copper mine at Mes Aynak in Logar Province to the China Metallurgical Group for $3 billion

Another one

In December 2011, Afghanistan signed an oil exploration contract with China National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC) for the development of three oil fields along the Amu Darya river.[28] Afghanistan will have its first oil refineries within the next three years, after which it will receive 70 percent of the profits from the sale of the oil and natural gas

Another one


Its more then obvious its just a flat out conspiracy nothing more, kicked around by people who are either anti west, or anti intelligent, take your pick

Desperately trying to find a way to make Afghanistan worth developing so that they stop being THAT is great.

Now that problem is - you can't get at this stuff because the region is so insecure that just getting the geologists into the region is a major problem.

So this isn't what they were in Afghanistan for. We've been in Afghanistan for political and war reasons. There being something worth developing in Afghanistan that might make is something less than the consistent problem it has been for the last several thousand years is awesome.

There was a piece in one of my mags about one of the geologists who were in Afghanistan looking for these rare earth elements. I'll have to look when I get home. Canadian Geographic? Scientific American? Discovery? Its probably still on my night table.

I guess when the US has started wars with everybody with oil, and used it all they will have to run their cars on something else, like maybe batteries???
They could just be preparing for when there are no fossil fuels left (or not enough to get away with using) and gathering the next best thing for natural power, lithium for batteries....

I know its not just the US but mostly it is

Originally posted by casenately
and now begins the resource rape.

I wonder how much of that wealth to be generated will be spent on the Afghan people. They could rebuild their country and become a stable nation again. When you have nice things and security you tend to tell the people selling suicide bomber position to piss off. Kind of like the way rich people avoided the draft in Nam. People would be too busy building themselves up economically and academically to bother with people who don't like dancing and miniskirts. The guys trying to get you to strap bombs on yourself all of a sudden seem more like door to door vacuum cleaner salesmen.

Too bad it will go to foreign companies and not even the people making the sacrifices there conquering the country get to partake in the spoils of their conquest.

Hooray for the raping and pillaging of the Afghan people so we can rape and pillage the earth. All for the love of money, and all done through deception.

Stop the car, I'd like to get out now.

Originally posted by occrest

"Depleted uranium is radioactive and extremely destructive to humans - with a half-life of 4.5 billion years. In other words, it takes 4.5 billion years for one kilogram of depleted uranium to reduce to a half a kilogram - the US has forever contaminated the Middle East.

reply to post by ignant

 

This MAY not be true, at least according to a Tom Bearden. From his site.

An apparatus exploiting the production of a time-reversal zone to selectively enhance a nuclear reaction will be shown in Fig. 24. Methods for treating a mass by creating a particular spacetime engine will be shown in Figs. 26A-26B. This process can be applied to inert or living matter. By "steering" the process as the changes occur, substances harmful to the environment such as chemical and radioactive wastes can be altered into new harmless elements and compounds.

I don't know whether this man is legitimate, or if he is a fraud. I just did a search on "how to neutralize radioactive waste" and his site was the first to pop up.

Once science breaks into spintronics more, they should find a method for reversing the curse of radioactivity. It would probably still take a long time - aha a pun - to neutralize the area, at the same time ageing the non-radioactive surrounding environment to appear to be billions of years older than observed by human eyes of the current civilization. Or, it could split the planet into oblivion if working too hard. Certainly the population would have to keep a distance or risk Philadelphia Experiment effects. Try telling that to the see-it-to-believe-it crowd.

But at that level, one could create atoms from scratch almost. It would fit the description of a WMD. Which would motivate another war. The cycle continues!

Oh, really? So first America
is falsely accused of going
over their to steal ALL the OIL!

No oil is to be found, that is a fact!
America has not profited one dollar from that oil.
What is even more sick Afghanistan should
pay us back.. Without our help, they would
of never even found out about all these new mines,
oil fields, and the wealth that could be had.
The potential that America has opened them up
too is AMAZING. THIS IS helping them, NOT US.
America stole no oil, and they are not going to steal
any mines either from these people.

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
I was speaking to a family friend of mine and they said that when he was in the Pakistani army in the middle east, he told me that the British had mapped out all these mineral and oil deposits and when he asked the question, his superior said that they were not supposed to talk about it. Taliban my ass.

I was speaking to MY family friend,
and he knows Gen. Douglas MacArthur

AND he told ME that this whole thing is made up
bull crap.. Talk out of the ass.

reply to post by six67seven


You know, when good companies go into areas and try to develop the local populace their leaders, governments, religious establishment and their defenders in the West actually STOP them from doing so.

You can't develop the local populace to take these positions - education, training and nice places to live are apparently a Western plot.

Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL

 

Absolutely, even though a lot of people knew thus I wanted to make it into a concise link that can share knowledge Andre truth, glad you enjoyed

Given how rich in resources Afghanistan is, it makes one wonder what the Taliban did to exploit them for the benefit of the Afghan people while they were in charge.

Dam those allies for giving the Afghan people a chance to live a good life, up the Taliban, destroy the schools and force the children to fight this civilized absurdness, cough while we hide in Pakistan

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


Star and Flag Prof.
Good thread. I knew about all this to an extent, but never had seen these graphs or known what kinds of valuables were were trying to tap there.

Yes .. i knew they had that many ressources
an article on this was release 4-5 yrs ago
saying they have up to at least 2-3 trillion dollars there
and 1 trillions for the puppy production
and a little bit of oil ...

If you had in mind to invade a few countries in the next decade
you would need to invade Afghanistan first to finance the rest
US taxpayers cant pay for all of that
the US would have been the first country to fall covered in debt
if it wasnt for Afghanistan

I think if there is any conspiracy it's over the poppy fields - 500 billion per year of illicit goods in trade, sounds like a black budget wet dream. The mining is more usefull for the agstanis and is so above the board and costly to extract its more likely it will be a bonus for our business rather than the MIC

Old news! I have known about this since after the start of the war. I started out researching the natural gas pipeline and realized the minerals is what they were after also.

So, um. . . "9/11" was "staged" so that we could mine in Afghanistan?
The USS Cole was bombed for lithium in Afghanistan?
A decade of war, thousads of lives lost, more permanently injured, so we could mine in fracking Afghanistan?

Yeah, I'm sure the moon landing was staged to we could mine in Afghanistan as well!
JFK was killed so we could mine in Afghanistan also.
Hey, the War of 1812 was all a plan just so we could get ore in Afghanistan!

*forgive me if I don't join in the orgasmic group-glee of finding a reason just to hate on America.

reply to post by SceoticalSam


That's pretty dumb. Their army works alongside the coalition. It's the people that are the ones to worry about. All they have in life is reputation and honor, which can never be defeated.

Plus don't forget that it ain't just the afghan people fighting, you have guys crossing the borders to fight and insanely, people from Britain & US fly over to assist in killing westerners! Then have the cheek to fly back!

The British approach in Afghan now is all about 'hearts & minds' for these very reasons.

Originally posted by miniatus
That's great news for Afghanistan .. since they own it and all ..

But I'm sure America will get some lucrative contracts out of the deal

Conviniently if a country is bombed to hell and is not a well doing society the labor comes cheap. So there's that

Originally posted by beezzer
So, um. . . "9/11" was "staged" so that we could mine in Afghanistan?
The USS Cole was bombed for lithium in Afghanistan?
A decade of war, thousads of lives lost, more permanently injured, so we could mine in fracking Afghanistan?

Yeah, I'm sure the moon landing was staged to we could mine in Afghanistan as well!
JFK was killed so we could mine in Afghanistan also.
Hey, the War of 1812 was all a plan just so we could get ore in Afghanistan!

*forgive me if I don't join in the orgasmic group-glee of finding a reason just to hate on America.

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Look at the bigger picture, as it has been stated in earlier posts, it is not just resources that Afghanistan has, within the plan Iraq was taken which has many obvious resources and Iran soon could be next also.

reply to post by Aliquandro


You are essentially right. No nation will go to war nowadays unless there is something in it for them to make up or exceed the costs of the war monetarily. It's a vile process but within the the war circles of government it makes absolute sense. Never mind the casualties. Never mind the damage to the environment. "Gotta get paid if ya gonna lay them to waist".