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Originally posted by mactheaxe
we need to do something about this. all we do is post, go THIS IS BAD and nothing else. im gonna do it but i am thinking about how to go about it. this is bullspit. post everywhere you can.
Originally posted by Flatfish
Doesn't surprise me in the least! The only surprising thing about this revelation is the fact that republicans are upset with the fact that it's being done. If I remember correctly, they gave voter fraud their full endorsement during the 2000 election and even enlisted the U.S. Supreme Court to ensure they achieved the desired results.
Voter suppression has been a mainstay of the republican party since it's very inception and there are no tactics considered to be too dastardly for them to employ, especially if it means ensuring a win.
You know how the old saying goes; "If you play with fire, you're bound to get burned." This really sounds to me like the republicans just can't stand the heat in their own kitchen.
While I don't condone voter fraud in any way, as far as I'm concerned if it has to happen, I can't think of anyone more deserving than the republican party.
With all that said, F&S for the OP! IMO, exposing the crooks for who they are is always good.
Originally posted by Cynicaleye
Just because Paul has lost again doesn't mean it's fixed...
Originally posted by NightGypsy
Originally posted by mactheaxe
we need to do something about this. all we do is post, go THIS IS BAD and nothing else. im gonna do it but i am thinking about how to go about it. this is bullspit. post everywhere you can.
Mactheaxe, it seems to me that many people don't even care. For at least two weeks, I've been posting source links for the numerous voter fraud reports on my Facebook page, and few people show any interest in it at all. Seems more people are more concerned with alerting everyone that they're shopping at WalMart or that their cat just had a bowel movement than they are about corrupt elections.
Originally posted by macaronicaesar
Yes, because there's a real difference between parties. Acorn cheated for Obama, this crap happens on both sides of the aisle. There is no difference between the two.
Satterberg: [A] joint federal and state investigation has determined that this
scheme was not intended to permit illegal voting.
Instead, the defendants cheated their employer, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (or ACORN), to get paid for work they did not actually perform. ACORN’s lax oversight of their own voter registration drive permitted this to happen. … It was hardly a sophisticated plan: The defendants simply realized that making up names was easier than actually canvassing the streets looking for unregistered voters. … [It] appears that the employees of ACORN were not performing the work that they were being paid for, and to some extent, ACORN is a victim of employee theft.
Election fraud does exist, but hasn’t been shown to be widespread. The New York Times reported in 2007 that a five-year crackdown on such fraud by the Bush administration’s Justice Department had produced 70 convictions at the federal level, including 40 campaign workers or government workers convicted of vote-buying, intimidation or ballot forgery, and 23 cases of multiple voting or voting by ineligible voters. But the Times described these as unconnected incidents and said the Justice Department had turned up no evidence of "any organized effort to skew federal elections."
Bush administration officials have pushed hard to find such evidence, too hard in one case, according to an investigation by the Department of Justice’s internal watchdogs, the Office of the Inspector General (OIG) and Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR). Their report into the firing of nine United States attorneys concluded that the "real reason" for the firing of New Mexico’s U.S. Attorney David Iglesias was "complaints about Iglesias’s handling of voter fraud and public corruption matters." The complaints included gripes by state Republican Party officials who believed that widespread fraud by Democrats had prevented George Bush from winning the state in the 2000 presidential election. Iglesias launched a task force that worked with the FBI but found that "there was insufficient evidence in any of the cases the Task Force reviewed to support criminal prosecution by the [U.S. Attorney's Office] or state authorities," according to the report of the OIG and OPR. These included cases involving ACORN workers. Republicans charged that Iglesias was showing insufficient rigor in prosecuting the cases.
Originally posted by mrnotobc
I'm sure voter fraud is rampant in this country for some time now. I think all the national elections are rigged. I'm not sure anything can be done about it at this late stage in the game. We've become no better than serfs, with no say in who our leaders are now.
On top of that the msm is owned by tptb, and are able to control how most people think. Forget about this being a free country, we lost it.