The Mark of The Beast - Implants coming!

Originally posted by Hellas

Originally posted by quedup
reply to post by Lionhearte

 

How come David Icke knew about these plans then? Years back!

Maybe because they're written in the Bible?

You mean the bible bible written by Constantine after 300 years merging with the Cult of Sol Invictus Mithras , you mean that Bible?

Ever since I was 10 years old I've been hearing the rumors... "The implants are coming!, the implants are coming!"

At this point I don't care if they come or not, but I will not get one.

Being a futurist I can tell you how the implant scenario will work.

It will be on a voluntary basis, for years, perhaps 10, 15, 20 years.

Then the government will pass some stupid law and make it mandatory.

That's the only way they will get away with it, ease it in, make it seem normal,
there will be plenty of guinea pigs to volunteer. The year buffer will be an attempt
to 'sell' everyone else on the un-needed product. I will say no to it, apparently
these already exist in our credit cards, but it's not the same as being in my body,
many will say no to bodily implants.

reply to post by rebellender


I said it's written in the bible.

You mean the bible bible written by Constantine after 300 years merging with the Cult of Sol Invictus Mithras , you mean that Bible?

No the one he wrote at Starbucks...

Originally posted by rwfresh

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by rwfresh

 

Way too simple. You cannot be tricked into taking the mark, when you get it, you will know you are doing it willingly. It will be a concious choice and it will be a choice where they kill you if you do not take it, specifically you will get beheaded. It will not be a piece of technology, it will be a conscious rejection of Jesus Christ, forsaking him and Yahweh as savior for another god.

The 2 Beasts already exist, the 2 Antichrists are already here right now, and one of them is about to be revived after recieving a mortal wound that happened in 1924. Think along the lines of the Holy Roman Empire Pope who is the "Vicar of Christ" and the Islamic Caliphate of the Ottoman Empire who is the "Vicar of Allah" and youre heading in the right direction.

It is SO simple that i cannot for the life of me understand the ignorant denial of the obvious FACTS. YOU tell me how it's a trick. TELL ME. You SWEAR ON JESUS' name that you don't believe the financial system that forces you to identify yourself through a biometric scan is not evil and i will believe you.

There is no trick except the one you play on yourself when you tell yourself the # you have accepted already hasn't put you in grave danger.

WHY O WHY O WHY would anyone accept burning in hell for all eternity if not by ignorance. SO who is tricking who? You can trick yourself all you want but you cannot and will not trick Jesus.

edit on 15-2-2012 by rwfresh because: (no reason given)

Bro, i am telling you it cannot be technology. Not unless they come and threaten to kill you and your family for not taking it. Now if that happens we may have a more clear picture of what it is but as is, it can't be technology. There is no trick, i am saying that they cannot trick you because it will not be a trick when "they" come after you. If you have the seal of God on you you will not take the mark no matter what form it comes in because you will know it as son as you see it. In the scripture there is alot of indication that those marked by God and those marked by the Beast will know who eachother are.

However i am not going to say it is not possible because i don't have all the answers but maybe it might be possible if you take Revelation and apply Daniels prophetic language cipher to decode Revelation. Daniel says that Beasts are kingdoms or empires, so using that cipher we could say that it might be the mark of a kingdom or specific empire but even then it still leaves a pretty vague chasm to cross in figuring out what that mark is.

If everyone already knows 'the mark of the beast' no one will take it. Obviously this isnt true. The mark of the beast is taken by billions who don't know its a false name, Jesus. Or I should say 'je-zeus' chi zi stigma = 666

So, I read the reference. They are saying that the implant will have to be done by march 2013.

Imagine trying to get everyone in the US to do something like that in just about 13 months.

Personally, I don't believe it.

reply to post by flyingunknown


This is exactly how they'll do it - by then it is accepted as 'the norm' - just like credit cards and bank cards now.

They have all the time in the world and this has been a proven method of introducing controversial issues and getting them accepted.

They're not that interested in our silly bank accounts or all the other information they'd have access to - that would simply be a bonus - what they really want is complete and utter control so that when demonstrations turn into civil war or total revolution they can simply press a button and get rid of the ring leaders or when the population reaches the point that also threatens them and their way of life they can press the 'attack the immune system' button so people die of natural causes.

They are streets ahead of your average guy on the block and even when it's happening Mr Joe Blogg will still refuse to believe it.

The population explosion was recognized by them long ago - simple math - of course they're going to plan for it. But these plans aren't the ones they'll openly share with us - they operate through Eugenics which is - if you check on their history behind the planned parenting program - they do it all like the big corporations - through front companies and going in through the back door.

Technology has always been hailed as a marvelous thing for Mankind and in many many cases it is but in the wrong hands - we all know what happens to it and we the people certainly don't benefit in the way it was often meant by those who discover it. Splitting the Atom was supposed to be a huge advancement for the benefit of Mankind - oh yeah - it was that alright. Look where we are with that discovery!

Medical implants are wonderful for all of us - seeing where it can be abused is certainly not foolish and anyone with any sense of discernment would be wise to consider the implications.

Eugenics Programs:
12160.info...

They will introduce the chip slowly! First it'll be the phones! You know the phones with GPS/cameras/apps! Everyone is getting them. Iphones/android phones ect. Soon they will come out with phones that store all information, even your personal information like drivers license ect.

Once everyone is tracked by phones that can do EVERYTHING for you! they will get smaller and smaller.

Once its all acceptable to carry all info on your phone that take eye scans for security and thumb prints. IE (they will take a mark on their foreheads [meaning eyes] and on their hands [meaning finger prints]) DO YOU SEE IT NOW???? Thumb prints and eye scans are the marks of the beast, and phones will be how they do it. They don't need to implant you to achieve this.

Then some security leak of EPIC proportions will happen and people will stand up and say (fix this problem) to which they will say "no problem" Here is your chip!

So we got lots of time until the chip happens, it's just that people will beg for this tech. (probably due to some phone hack that's preventable but overlooked) you know like credit cards with no pin numbers and the billions stolen from credit card fraud every day thats ALWAYS overlooked! It's all planned out..... Everything is...

I'm just saying........YOU WILL ASK TO BE CHIPPED! to protect your MONEY! it's always about money, it's how they control you. It's how they will always control you!

Think about it. If today someone hacked your bank account and stole all your money, or robbed your house and stole EVERYTHING in it right down to the plugins in your walls and even stole your sink. You would CRY to the heavens for someone.......anyone to fix the bank or get you your money back or have insurance pay for your stolen stuff........Now think if they said we can do it, but all you gotta do is upgrade to this NEW chipped credit card or debit card that is chipped for your protection....(You would do it)

My damn credit card and debit card are chipped and I didn't even want it! my old cards worked just fine. The bank sent me new ones in the mail with a letter saying my old cards would not work in 30 days. No ifs and or butts. I'm telling you, they are doing it now! Your only option is to ACCEPT it or get off the grid completely!

Where do you draw the line? When do you draw the line? 5 minutes before the chip is in your brain stem with a shut off switch? people will say.....oh no, not me I'll never do it.....they can die. Guess what, you have done NOTHING up to this point. You will do nothing 5 minutes before either cause when it happens you will have been programed enough and complacent enough to accept it! That's it!

Hell, the chip in a credit or debit card does absolutely NOTHING to improve security of the cards. If anything they made it easier for the crooks to steal from you. a guy with a setup no bigger than a small laptop briefcase can scan you from 5 feet away and you wouldn't even know it. then eat your account like it was an all you can eat buffet!

Now I'm not to sure what anyone can do other than go to the extreme of living off the grid or fighting for real, (not this ddos attack garbage they feed us to feel like someone is doing something) I just feel like we as the human race is not that human any more! Even if you fight, they will just throw you in a camp and lose the key. They probably want us all to fight, that way they have an excuse to come at us full force!

anyways, thanks for the info and to all my brothers and sisters from different mothers and fathers, have a great day!

reply to post by Wildbob77


Have you had your vaccine - even kids refused acceptance into school system without it - there are many ways you can be implanted but the vaccine is the one they're pushing:

You don't think it's possible:

realneo.us...

forum.davidicke.com...

unhypnotize.com...

Just Google ' vaccine implants' and you'll find a thousand ways in which they're convincing the public.

www.youtube.com...

reply to post by quedup


I think that "they" will give people a choice at first when the bankaccount option is ready to use. Here in holland the transition to the euro was cleverly done to give each person a card with the different euro-coins on it. We were more or less bought to agree with using the euro.

I am afraid a simular thing will happen with this chip. They will give us a 5 or 10 euro credit for free so we can try it out and see how it "feels". After a few years all credtit-card machines will have slowly vanished and will it be only possible to pay with such a chip in your hand/arm....forehead?

Originally posted by Seektruthalways1
If everyone already knows 'the mark of the beast' no one will take it. Obviously this isnt true. The mark of the beast is taken by billions who don't know its a false name, Jesus. Or I should say 'je-zeus' chi zi stigma = 666

Are you sure? There are many people with as many diffrent theories about what the meaning of 666 will be.

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reply to post by quedup




I want to keep it simple but for those interested read more below.

The MARK is for identification and NOTHING ELSE. That is how it prevents/allows you to buy and sell. The mark identifies you. If you are not identified then you cannot buy or sell. It's that simple. It's not anymore complicated. Mark = Identification. Don't let any dense technophobe preacher sell you anything else. READ revelations without all the bullcrap fed into your head.






This is what you might ask yourself..

WHAT does the chip do? What is it for?

Revelation is VERY specific:

"And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the MARK"

You need to use your head.. It's not even that complicated. It is extremely simple logic. If you don't have the mark you cannot buy or sell. You are ostracized. You cannot buy food. You will be under suspicion. Life will not be good for you. This is why so many will be deceived into receiving the mark. "with which he deceived them that had received the MARK of the beast". Because they don't want to die. They don't want to suffer. And believe me not accepting the control grid will put you high on the radar and you WILL be locked away, tortured and killed as a terrorist. When they scan your face and no match comes up you are done. But most will do it for convenience because they are so far removed from reality which is God.

So what is it for? IDENTIFICATION. SIMPLE. Nothing else. NO CHIP NEEDED. Your face and HAND work JUST FINE. "to receive a MARK in their right hand, or in their foreheads".

"Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man;"

Confused? Number of a man? Which man? YOU. That is which man.. as in:

"What tells me how tall a guy is? The height of a man. How do i identify someone in the beast grid? The number of a man."

The number of a man is the generated GUID:

"A globally unique identifier (GUID, /ˈɡwɪd/ or play /ˈɡuːɪd/) is a unique reference number used as an identifier in computer software. The term GUID also is used for Microsoft's implementation of the Universally unique identifier (UUID) standard.

The value of a GUID is represented as a 32-character hexadecimal string, such as [21EC2020-3AEA-1069-A2DD-08002B30309D], and is usually stored as a 128-bit integer. The total number of unique keys is 2128 or 3.4×1038. This number is so large that the probability of the same number being generated randomly twice is negligible."

A man's SPECIFIC GUID is generated from an individuals biometric information. Basically the UNIQUE input for the algorithm are your biometrics. Biometrics are measurements taken from your face, hand and/or retina.

Honestly.. i am not even a bible thumping dude.. but when i see the resistance to accept these basic facts it wakes me up even more to the reality. Millions of so called Christians will line right up for the biometric passport, the biometric driver's license etc. etc. And then one day VERY VERY soon the biometric bank card. And then it's oops sorry only terrorists use paper money or coins.. So make sure you've been scanned unless you want to be branded a terrorist.

What you need to understand is that these biometric "cards" exist right now. And i can tell you as a technology insider that the card serves NO PURPOSE except to give you the warm fuzzies. The card is for you. What is important is the biometric scan. And once they have it you are done. Your "number" has been generated.

reply to post by quedup


I'm saying a personal biometric GUID generated from face and or hand scans is the mark and they are already rolling it out and the backlash against it will start in the next few years. IT IS the mark. Chips are pointless. I wouldn't get one of those either. But your main concern should be with how close you are to accepting or needing the "mark", biometric scans to move forward with your life.

Understand that when paper money is eliminated in the very near future biometric "cards" (the cards serve no purpose) will require you to be scanned to make any kind of purchase. You will need to be able to live or die without this. You will need to take a real stand against it. It's already very close to being to late.

Originally posted by Wildbob77
So, I read the reference. They are saying that the implant will have to be done by march 2013.

Imagine trying to get everyone in the US to do something like that in just about 13 months.

Personally, I don't believe it.

You don't believe it because you know it's impossible. And you are right. What is much easier and was just done in India (1.2 billion people) in a year, is biometric scanning.

Now EVERY single person in India has a unique identifier. When government body or financial institution needs to identify someone they need only do one thing. Take a picture of the Indian's hand or face. Done. Want to buy a veg thali? take a picture. Want to get medical records? take a picture. Want to get a new license? pay a fine? take a picture. No ID, ID card, number, chip needed. This is DONE right now. Done.

Now why on earth would any stupid government bother with chips when 1.2 billion person country just completed an identification system that requires nothing more than an initial scan from a 2 generation old camera?

It is too late already! Nothing will stop it. Even a world wide EMP won't work. Cause once the system is back up, it'll be 1000 times worse than it is now.

peace be with you!

Originally posted by Seektruthalways1
If everyone already knows 'the mark of the beast' no one will take it. Obviously this isnt true. The mark of the beast is taken by billions who don't know its a false name, Jesus. Or I should say 'je-zeus' chi zi stigma = 666

Je-sus is the english/greek rendition of Ye-shu, which is what the Talmud calls Yahshua.

people in this country would take a bullet before an implant. Christian writers have been making money off that scenario for years. It's already in a mass amount of people's conscious.

reply to post by zatara


I'm originally from the UK and my Father served in the 2nd world war - he would often talk of the horror of it all but would remind me what they were fighting for. Free Speech and democracy and a world without the control of dictatorship.
As a young person of the time - I thought that was very honorable and often considered and was often reminded of how Hitler planned to rule the world.
I often considered how many people died to prevent his reign over us all and over the years since I have seen the irony of it all.
They eventually got what Hitler wanted starting of with ONE EUROPE and not one shot was fired!!!!!

They were very clever and astute in the way they did it and now they're aiming for Hitlers ultimate quest - WORLD DOMINATION.
At least Hitler made no secret of it.

Originally posted by rebellender

Originally posted by Hellas

Originally posted by quedup
reply to post by Lionhearte

 

How come David Icke knew about these plans then? Years back!

Maybe because they're written in the Bible?

You mean the bible bible written by Constantine after 300 years merging with the Cult of Sol Invictus Mithras , you mean that Bible?

Just FYI: There were two distinct forms of Mithraism in the world that had little in common except the name. The older one was from Persia and bears exceedingly little resemblance to Christianity. The second form of Mithraism was a first century Roman cult that post-dates the existence of Christianity. So, any resemblance between Christianity and the second was all the Roman cult borrowing from the Christians and not the other way around.

And, regarding the bible: It's ridiculous to assert that St. Constantine wrote the New Testament. It was an Ecumenical Council at which there were a lot of people, such as priests, bishops, and theologians. They simply agreed which books (that were already in existence and in use) were to continue being used by the Church as valid scripture. In other words, these books were collected, edited, and canonized by the Church.

Source: Non-revisionist history and anthropology courses way back in my undergraduate days.

ETA: As to the RFID chips- I won't be getting one. I'm not a fan. I will not have something implanted in me where I can be tracked, etcetera. It's downright creepy.

reply to post by rwfresh


I'm with you all the way - you make excellent points that only idiots would ignore - it is happening as we speak.

However, considering the wish for population reduction - implants via vaccination are the perfect weapon.

Your immune system can be targeted at the press of a button -

'Oh populations creeping up again lets get rid of a million elderly'
' Oh let's get rid of these people - I don't like their culture'
' We can do without these disabled people too'
'The unemployed are costing too much money - time we reduced their numbers - what's their occupations'
'These Gay people are causing too much trouble'

They can simply send out a killer flu virus (like the deadly one they've just created) and switch off the system in the implant (bacterial sized) that protects against the flu and there we go - population reduced to ........

It even looks toward the future when they will be able to do more with their nano's - oh your flu implant isn't working - here's a new updated one -

How many years is it since they found how to use implants in animals - the family pet etc., So how much further down the road are they now?

But no - they will say - they wouldn't do that to us

That nice Mr Gates is being very kind and helpful with his flu vaccines in Africa -