What is HOME to you?

Originally posted by Trexter Ziam

Home is where the heart is - sounds nebuous enough. I'll go with that one.

BUT, what happens when your heart is not with you?

And you are unable to reach the place your heart actually is?

reply to post by ottobot


I'm sorry, I don't understand the question.

Are you talking about the physical heart?

I was talking about the symbolic heart (the things you care most about if you had to prioritize).

I am my home!
and my son is my temple (as long as its time to pray to my little god - he will be replaced one day, though he will be one of the deities on my hevenly skies... I will become my own God once again)

Originally posted by nithaiah
Once upon a time, I was homeless. It was about four and a half years ago. I was a proper bum, lived in a homeless shelter, knew people who slept on the railroad tracks and under bridges, had no job and no prospects... And a lot of time to think about what home really meant, because despite the new-found homeless moniker, I felt no different about my circumstances than I had felt when I wasn't homeless. I found that very peculiar.

I concluded after a while that home is where I want to be while I'm actually there. Home wasn't a place, it was a state of mind. So I changed mine, and I was home. It's not necessarily an easy thing to achieve. In my "home"town for example, I have never been able to feel at home, despite my best efforts, perhaps because I have never been able to reconcile my deep loathing of the place and have very little desire to do so.

That's a pretty powerful story. I am compelled to respond, but I have no idea what to say, other than, "I wish I knew how you did that."

I really do wish I knew how you did that. I really long to feel like "home", but have had very few moments (seriously, moments) in time where I actually felt like that.

I'm pretty tired of being "forever alone".

Originally posted by Trexter Ziam
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I'm sorry, I don't understand the question.

Are you talking about the physical heart?

I was talking about the symbolic heart (the things you care most about if you had to prioritize).

Yes, I am also talking about the symbolic heart.

What if the things, people, places, etc. you care about the most are unreachable?

Would one, then, never be able to find home?

Or, would one have to find a new set of things to think of as "home"?

Home to me is nature (the planet), the place we came from, the place that (although we try to distance and alienate ourselves from it) we belong to nevertheless, and a place we will be returning to in all likelyhood in the not-so-distant future (hopefully) In my opinion, home is where the heart is, and the heart of all humankind lies in nature and nowhere else.

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Precisely. To answer that I refer you to my 1st post www.abovetopsecret.com...

That was my point - your point now - our point now.

Are we pointless yet? I don't think so.

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Home is where the heart is. Plain and simple, it is where your heart is. Your heart is home, how far do you need to go to find your own heart? Know thyself and home you are.

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
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Home is where the heart is. Plain and simple, it is where your heart is. Your heart is home, how far do you need to go to find your own heart? Know thyself and home you are.

edit on 15-2-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)

Hmm. I have to go (symbolically) pretty far to find my own heart, specifically because I have buried it beneath a pile of rubble for a very long time. I know where my beating heart is, obviously, but it does not beat comfortably. It beats too fast sometimes when I am upset because I have not yet learned to understand my symbolic heart. I suppose when I can reconcile the two forms of heart, I will feel more at home.

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Haha, no! Not pointless, very pointed and poignant response.

Thanks.

Originally posted by Balkan
Home to me is nature (the planet), the place we came from, the place that (although we try to distance and alienate ourselves from it) we belong to nevertheless, and a place we will be returning to in all likelyhood in the not-so-distant future (hopefully) In my opinion, home is where the heart is, and the heart of all humankind lies in nature and nowhere else.

Very intriguing perspective. I haven't thought of it in that way before. Though, I do agree that humans and the earth are one and the same.

So, maybe the reason many people have a disconnect from "home" is because they have a physical disconnect from nature.

I, myself, am most "at home" in nature and strive to be as close to it as possible so that I can feel more comfortable.

That is definitely something to think about.

Home for me is where my bed is, where I can close the doors, turn the phone off and shut out the world and be myself, wrapped up warm and safe in my duvet with no outside interuptions.

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The symbolic heart does not matter, it is imagination, mind stuff. The physical heart is beating and is real, if you stay present with the physical sensual world you will feel at home. The intellectual mind never feels at home, and anything the mind imagines like 'symbolic heart' will just keep you lost.
I am found.

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
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The symbolic heart does not matter, it is imagination, mind stuff. The physical heart is beating and is real, if you stay present with the physical sensual world you will feel at home. The intellectual mind never feels at home, and anything the mind imagines like 'symbolic heart' will just keep you lost.
I am found.

Well, Itisnowagain, things just aren't that cut and dry to me.

I have spent many years being present in my physical world, with my physical heart, completely ignoring my symbolic heart because it is absolutely illogical to go with my symbolic heart's feelings. The things around my physical heart should be the most important to me, but I still do not feel like home. Not once have I ever felt completely at home.

So, perhaps your theory works for you. I'm glad you feel like you are home and you are found.

It does not work for me, though. I no longer want to feel nothing while pretending to feel everything as a result of quashing the feelings I actually have.

Originally posted by FlyersFan

What is HOME to you

No place that has to do with my soul being stuck in this 'useless transport vehicle'. (body)
HOME is someplace else. I'm just stuck here for a while.

I echo your disenchantment with our present incarnation. We volunteered for this assignment. Next time I am going to read the fine print on the travel brochure more closely..ha..ha..! I know how you feel. I hope that this ends soon and we can go home. Love to you all.

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Sorry you have not found home yet, I offer you this gift with the hope that you will soon.
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Thank you, I appreciate it.

I do feel like the only time I can be sincere is when I am listening to my "symbolic heart". So, that's what I'm doing for the time being because that's what I need to do right now to understand myself.

It is very difficult to keep myself from shutting my heart out, because I don't want to feel pain and I don't want others to feel pain.

I think that, in some ways, pain is "home" for me. Because I have always felt it, it is familiar, it is what I know. I don't know how to not feel pain, and therein lies my problem.

Trying to get out of pain has thus far been unsuccessful, because the only way I could figure to get out of it was to pretend it did not exist. I can't do that anymore, because of the urge->urgent->EMERGENCY feeling that finally overwhelmed me a couple of years ago.

So, here I am.

Pouring out my heart on a conspiracy message board, of all places.

Haha. Ahh, the places life takes us.

May my life someday take me home.

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Mooji can help you if you really want to find home, watch him and listen. There are others also, i will post some links to people i highly reccomend.
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Originally posted by ottobot

Originally posted by WhiteHat
I don't feel at home nowhere on this earth; I grew up in so many places, and even as an adult my wanders continued, so I always feel out of place, a stranger. Never lived in one place more than five years; many times as little as one year. Always finding myself asking: "what am I doing here?", sometimes on a daily basis...
There are some people, very few, who give me a feeling similar to that of coming home.

I've read once a beautiful haiku, I"m so sorry I don't remember it exactly, but it goes something like this:
"A heart without the love
On an ocean without a shore,
Forever astray..."

It's exactly my permanent feeling....

I am sorry to hear of your extreme loneliness. I feel like this sometimes, too, as if I am alone even when surrounded by people... even people I love.

I have a question for you: What are you looking for?

Each time you move, where are you going?

And, what has happened to the people who have made you feel like home?

I don't know what I'm looking for, or what I'm missing. I wish I knew. A higher meaning, maybe, or maybe a little more than just living day by day the same routine.
When I move I usually change cities and jobs. Most of the time it's not from my own choice. I love new places, new people, I'm filled with curiosity and wonder for a while, and then everything slowly fades out in the same routine. But even if I stay for longer in one place, I'm gradually closing myself in a shell, don't stay in touch with friends, socially active only at the minimum not to give the impression I'm rude, even at work I'm the most quiet and introvert person of my team. I always prefer a good book to a meeting with friends. I don't know why, and I'm not sure if I do that because I feel like not belonging, or I don't belong because I move a lot.

Even if I ask myself sometimes if I could choose, where in the world I would want to be, the answer is hard to find. Maybe somewhere in the mountains, away from other people, maybe traveling around the world, not a specific place. No place to think about it like home.

People who made me feel at home, well, same story, some I left behind, some I willingly drifted away from them. Again, I wish I knew why.

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The pain is the sense of separation, aloneness, abandonment, not feeling complete, unworthy, alien, almost everyone feels this, it is the human condition.
The cure is to see that you are complete, not a seeing but a knowing, a realization. You do not have to do anything to be complete because you already are, it just has to be realized. When you realize, you are home.

Consider contentment;
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