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Greece : vote AGAINST the ``enslave all Greeks to the banks`` bill and get kicked out of government

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posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 11:03 PM
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Well ain't that democracy for ya?


Greece approves crucuial austerity bill as thousands protest in capital

Papademos' government -- an unlikely coalition of the majority Socialists and their main foes, New Democracy -- had been expected to carry the austerity vote. Combined, they control 236 of Parliament's 300 seats.

Still, they faced strong dissent: besides the 37 lawmakers who voted against the bill or abstained, a further six voted against sections of the proposed measures. After the vote, the coalition government announced those 43 lawmakers had been expelled.


I'll repeat the important part...

besides the 37 lawmakers who voted against the bill or abstained, a further six voted against sections of the proposed measures. [...] the coalition government announced those 43 lawmakers had been expelled.


Say whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat??? Where is the ARMY??? Where are the COPS??? Where are they to stop this madness???? This isn't madness, THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
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posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 11:17 PM
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This isn't Sparta; this may very well be the beginning of that civil war people have been whispered about eventually cranking up in Greece.

This is also, more than likely, an illegal government.
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posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 12:05 AM
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I wouldn't blame the peoples of Greece for overthrowing their crooked Gumment.
They were a noble people once, hopeully they will show their quality and "expell" the right persons.



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 12:14 AM
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Greece: A supreme example of when chaos and discord is justified.



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by satron
Greece: A supreme example of when chaos and discord is justified.

Greece : A supreme example of what happens when an unelected banker runs your country...



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 12:32 AM
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Yes an unelected banker was installed in the greek govt and he and his cronies can expell whoever dosnt vote with them for the measures however at the end of the day it will be up to the greek people to decide what path they want to take and it seems they are taking their first steps on that path,I hope it ends well for them



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 12:43 AM
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let the army restore the order and national sovereignty, defend the national interests of Greece! What worse to wait - to become like Romania may be? Greek scenario will be applied to other countries otherwise. I just don't see the light in the end of tunnel - all enslaved to banks. Is this the purpose? Or the opposite - the people to say enough is enough and to turn to a dictatorship to decide their food problems? Just don't get it. May be only Nibiru can explain why the world goes so crazy. If so, expect more than Greece.



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 12:46 AM
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I'm just glad nothing like that could ever happen in the good ol' U.S. of A.



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 12:59 AM
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Originally posted by Vitchilo
I'll repeat the important part...

besides the 37 lawmakers who voted against the bill or abstained, a further six voted against sections of the proposed measures. [...] the coalition government announced those 43 lawmakers had been expelled.



Interesting dichotomy between the above and Papademos' comment in this article LINK


Prime Minister Lucas Papademos denounced the worst breakdown of order since 2008 when violence gripped Greece for weeks after police shot a 15-year-old schoolboy.

"Vandalism, violence and destruction have no place in a democratic country and won't be tolerated," he told parliament as it prepared to vote on the new 130 billion euro bailout to save Greece from a chaotic bankruptcy.


I agree with him in principle, but clearly Greece is no longer a democratic country. Democracy started to die when the lawmakers violated the will of the majority of the people, its plugs were pulled when the same lawmakers banished the other elected officials who disagreed with their plans. I will say the Greeks are making little to no sense in burning local businesses and homes down. Their rage should be directed at their politicians, not at their fellow Greek proles.



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 12:40 PM
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Originally posted by Screwed
I'm just glad nothing like that could ever happen in the good ol' U.S. of A.

Now that's funny.




posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 12:52 PM
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To the people of Greece. I think its time to set an example for the rest of the world that the common man should no longer be pushed down in society any longer. Just break away for the Euro and tell the bankers to shove it. I personally think people should be mobbing on these crooks French Revolution style. Its just unbelievable they still want to cut and trim and pass austerity. SHOW THESE GLOBAL ELITIST SLIME WHY IT WAS GREECE THAT CREATED DEMOCRACY



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 04:40 PM
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The financial events in Greece are quite highly reported on
If the people of Greece stand up will more of Europe follow ?
Europe spring ?
We can hope



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 12:19 AM
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I am not familiar with how Greek Parliament works. Or the laws there. So can someone from there please explain to me how the hell members of Parliament can be expelled for voting there conscious and representing there constituency?

Is that even legal?



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 12:37 AM
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Democracy? By what definition? Clearly not any that we or the Greek people would recognise.

This is a powder keg, they've openly given the finger to the Greek people, there is nothing to hold back the tide now, no sense of normality to calm the tensions. This is war.

Reminds me of the ANC instituting disciplinary action against MP's who did not vote for the protection of information bill in south africa. Vote party or you are expelled.



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 01:17 AM
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Does this help put the greeks situation in context?



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 08:01 AM
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I was sure 100% that the vote will be YES, since they have majority.But, seriously, after the vote, Greece is OFICCIALY under EU / IMF DICTATORSHIP.

So, 46 MP's from coalition were EXPELED because they voted NO.A clear sign that dictatorship is FORCED on the greeks.
Their government is NOT legite, its not supported by a popular vote, so, its a DICTATORSHIP.

As for hopes that it will be an Europe Spring...yep, it will be.Just wait and see.I know one thing for sure : Romania will probably be the first (hopefully after Greece, because they are in much bigger #)in the upcoming uprising all across EU (lets hope no world war before that
).

In Romania, the things are like this :
-the Oposition does not participate in any of Parliament debates or votes;
-according to last surveys, the Oposition have 59% of the votes;
-same surveys show the Coalition in power have a mere 19%;
-in last 2 weeks of heavy snows, blizzards and below 20 degrees temperatures, 79 people died mainly because the government punished those areas because the oposition have majority in local authorities;
-after 3 weeks of protests, the government resigned, in hope to calm the protesters.They did not, because the President is still in office (he and his cronies are also the ones who SOLD what we had left as national wealth);
-Protests are continuing, thos to a much smaller scale (heavy snow and blizzards);
-the latest surveys also show an all-time low credibility for government (5%) and president (6%).

Like Greece, but much more earlier (june 2010) we had our wages cut with 25% (close to 40% after cuts of various labor rights : like working overtime, or nights, or in mines, steel, etc), IVA from 19% to 24%, pensions frozen (not even rised with inflation rate), other cuts for invalids, newborns, mothers with children aged under 2 years old, etc.

Its coming, you can bet on it.

However, i think TPTB will start a world war BEFORE Europe gets engulfed with mass protests.




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