So are we trying to get in touch with these "super earth" planets we've found or what?

Kepler B22 is about 600 light years..

Can you imagine if they were watching Earth, and seeing it it was 600 years ago?
They wouldn't be getting any signals from it either...

It isn't enough that a planet have life...it also has to have life that is capable of screaming their existence to the starts (and in a way in which others can detect the scream)....

That's a LOT of different variables, before you even factor in the time window.

So, the Universe could be TEEMING with life, and SETI still may not have heard anything yet.

First things first, Although it is perfectly reasonable to say that currently we have no data transmission tool that would out strip light speed, it is not perfectly reasonable to assume that we never will. It is certainly predicted by scientific theory, that nothing can accelerate past the speed of light, but a scientific prediction, no matter how good , how widely accepted, and how long standing it is, can be proven wrong, inaccurate, or incapable of explaining specific incidents which do not match the trend.

We have had scientists send electrons through the gaps in reality, and have them appear near on instantly in new locations, without having passed through any of the space between the two points. This has already happened. Admittedly, quantum teleportation has only recently been proven to work, and only over very short distances as of yet, but we are learning more as a species every day. We need to stop focusing all our attention on the here and now, and the limitations of yesteryear, and start focusing our efforts on ensuring that the future contains solutions to that which has thus far held us back. Now is not the time for resting on our laurels.

Am i the only one reading the OP properly:

a) I doubt we have systems in place for
listening to these planets...

b) I doubt we have the technology to scan
or even decrypt the signals, IF there were
any, from an ADVANCED race that had the
technology for interstellar comunication.

reply to post by Miccey

b) I doubt we have the technology to scan
or even decrypt the signals, IF there were
any, from an ADVANCED race that had the
technology for interstellar comunication.

maybe they'd be smart enough to dumb it down for us

:-)

reply to post by rick004


Or maybe they sent a communicator but we all knowing humans shot them down because we are better then everything in existence...

Now they are sitting back saying to themselves "Let them suffer their fate."

Come on now. Who in their right mind would want to be neighbors with us. We destroy everything in our path and have little to no respect for others and their beliefs. If they did come it would only start another holy war among the religions.

We are like the obnoxious neighbor that never gets invited to all the community affairs... and wonders why...

Embarrsingly for Planet Earth one of the first broadcasts that will reach our cosmic neighbours will be the Nazi Olympics games and Hitler saluting. Not a very ideal First Contact message I dont think! Perhaps this is why they have not said hello to us or landed on the perverbial White House Lawn. They dont want to get involved in a race that commits genoicide against itself! I dont blame them.

reply to post by ReaverTheBeliever


I believe that these are the candidates for SETI to search,

everal criteria were used to select the planet candidates that SETI wanted to target. Many of the candidates were selected due to their position in the "Habitable Zone," or the region around a star where liquid water could be maintained on the surface of an orbiting planet.
Of the 86 total SETI candidates, 71 have a calculated surface temperature between about -50 C and 100 C, placing them in this zone. All stars with over four Kepler candidates in orbit were included, along with any candidate with an orbital period greater than 50 days and a radius less than three times that of Earth. We also included the star hosting the first confirmed rocky planet outside our solar system, Kepler 10b.

HabStars are color-coded by distance. The order from closest to farthest is red, pink, yellow, white, green, light blue, dark blue, and purple. The colors are determined by a log scale.

SETI candidates

reply to post by flyingfish


SETI also trying to discover them via IR thermal infrared radiation emitted from highly advanced civilizations, Could be how you describe it ?

Originally posted by Wirral Bagpuss
Embarrsingly for Planet Earth one of the first broadcasts that will reach our cosmic neighbours will be the Nazi Olympics games and Hitler saluting. Not a very ideal First Contact message I dont think!

Perhaps this is why they have not said hello to us or landed on the perverbial White House Lawn. They dont want to get involved in a race that commits genoicide against itself! I dont blame them.

There was many years of radio signals before those games many many years!

Originally posted by Spiramirabilis
reply to post by Miccey

 

b) I doubt we have the technology to scan
or even decrypt the signals, IF there were
any, from an ADVANCED race that had the
technology for interstellar comunication.

maybe they'd be smart enough to dumb it down for us

:-)

How would they know they NEED to?

If we were to SEND a signal to lets say the
planets discoverd by Kepler, would we use
simple radiosignals. Dont think so. 20ly,
radiosignal.. We would probobly try to
think of some FASTER way. And if that
way would be technologicaly advanced
enough, they would have a hard time
decypher it..IF, they arent advanced
enough. Then again, if we were able
to detect THEIR signals, and decypher
it, id think we are ready for their tech
aswell....

Perhaps we could communicate with other beings if we looked at other modes of broadcast. Think about it. We sort of built our wireless on radio waves. Why just that? And why do we assume that any other reasonably intelligent life form is going to choose that particular wave too? And why do we assume that they would develop as we have, with auditory organs that work as ours do? There's no reason to think that we aren't getting comms all the time from other worlds, but we aren't aware of it because of our particular biological structure. We will never get anywhere as long as we look only at our own belly buttons.

Originally posted by Miccey


How would they know they NEED to?

If we were to SEND a signal to lets say the
planets discoverd by Kepler, would we use
simple radiosignals. Dont think so. 20ly,
radiosignal.. We would probobly try to
think of some FASTER way. .

Think of a faster way we are using the speed of light so what have you got.

reply to post by AaronWilson

Someone better warn them of the earthquakes coming their way then
from HAARP ?


Peace

reply to post by Miccey

How would they know they NEED to?

'cause they're really, really smart

:-)

if we're smart enough to see the problem - and they are more advanced than us...I'm pretty sure they'd know what to do

Originally posted by wmd_2008
Think of a faster way

we are using the speed of light so what have you got.

A 'gravity phone' much faster than light

Originally posted by wmd_2008

Originally posted by Miccey


How would they know they NEED to?

If we were to SEND a signal to lets say the
planets discoverd by Kepler, would we use
simple radiosignals. Dont think so. 20ly,
radiosignal.. We would probobly try to
think of some FASTER way. .

Think of a faster way

we are using the speed of light so what have you got.

Yea, thats like saying:
We have Iron and we have copper.
Can make ony a IRON axe OR a COPPER axe.

And then NOT knowing, theres a little thing called.
Alloyes...

Originally posted by Miccey

Originally posted by wmd_2008

Originally posted by Miccey


How would they know they NEED to?

If we were to SEND a signal to lets say the
planets discoverd by Kepler, would we use
simple radiosignals. Dont think so. 20ly,
radiosignal.. We would probobly try to
think of some FASTER way. .

Think of a faster way

we are using the speed of light so what have you got.

Yea, thats like saying:
We have Iron and we have copper.
Can make ony a IRON axe OR a COPPER axe.

And then NOT knowing, theres a little thing called.
Alloyes...

Can you explain what the F*** that has to do with what you said on your previous post ie think of a faster way

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by wmd_2008
Think of a faster way

we are using the speed of light so what have you got.

A 'gravity phone'

much faster than light

So when will we see this gravity phone

Oh sorry here's one

www.samsung.com...

Why dont you give your mates call then zorgon see if you get a reply remember the first radio signals could have been there and back

reply to post by ReaverTheBeliever

The SETI project is ongoing and will, in time, be looking at all strong candidate star systems for possible intelligent life. It's not something they can just turn the switch on in and instant.

But the great thing is, the more such places we find, the more groups like SETI have a chance to find something. Right now they've basically been groping around in the dark for 25 years, pointing their radio telescopes at stars they thought might be good candidates based upon much more limited information. Finding super-Earths in the right zone for life (as we know it) can help them narrow the search.

Even so, there are other factors. How old is the star system (very young systems probably can't have evolved advanced intelligence yet). Is there enough "metallicity" to the system, meaning does it have a high enough concentration of elements heavier than hydrogen and helium. If they don't, it would probably be hard for there to be enough elements to form complex organisms.

Didn't we send a single out ages ago, we also got a reply but no one manged to crack it, I'm sure you can find it somewhere I forget what it was called...