Fukushima update: 90℃ in reactor2. Emergency press conference

Originally posted by kdog1982
For live tweets on updates,I suggest this site.

japan.failedrobot.com...

And btw,the Japan Times are now saying it's all under control,nothing to see here.(sarcasm)

As a reason for what is causing the temperature rise, Tepco said it is possible the water flow is unstable and thus failing to cool the reactor stably, while also saying it will check the thermometer for any irregularities. The temperature was measured at 78.3 C at 10 a.m. and fell to 75.4 C at 11 a.m. The decline occurred after Tepco on Saturday night increased the amount of water being injected into the reactor to 14.6 tons per hour from 13.6 tons, after seeing the temperature rise to 73.3 C at 9 p.m. It reached 74.9 C at 11 p.m. Saturday. The temperature readings began rising on Feb. 1. One of the three thermometers at the bottom of the reactor's pressure vessel stayed between 67 C and 71 C from Friday evening to Saturday evening after hitting 73.3 C on Monday. Readings from two other thermometers that check the temperature at the bottom of the No. 2 reactor vessel were around 35 C, Tepco said.

www.japantimes.co.jp...

Oh,the thermometers are messed up.

Wow!
This has made me even more concerned about these clowns.
This is the filter I use for my large aquarium at home (yes aquarium). Aquarium Pump About $500 gets you this pump which pumps at a rate of 3500 liters per hour. That's 3.5 tonnes of water.. And they improved the situation by pumping an extra 1 tonne per hour!! Just 1 tonne...
Wow...
They are really on the ball...

This situation is just hopeless. All that water's contaminated.... Such an incredibly sad disaster that just keeps on giving.

Originally posted by skitzspiricy
How is this still happening?

Have any of the reactors actually been entombed yet?

When Chernobyl happened they were on it immediately.

It's been almost a year now and this mess is still going on.

Madness!!!

edit on 12-2-2012 by skitzspiricy because: (no reason given)

The fools aren't looking to entomb them and that is the criminal part. The idiots are intending to recover the fuel for disposal some other way...don't ask me, I don't get the logic either.....and then restoring the Fukushima provincial area to a healthy place to live and work. No kidding, it wasn't that many months ago they were talking about surface measurements for soil needing removed further out into the exclusion zone to safely grow food crops again.

The fact of the matter if, there has been NO state of cold shut down outside of Reactors 5 and 6 which were never involved in the direct calamity to begin with. the 2 worst ones haven't even had robotics penetrate deep enough to lay optics on the core/reactor area. They are guessing almost everything by sensor readings and thermal scans. This is one moment I hope like hell that technology proves better than expected, but I highly doubt it.

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I just checked Google Earth and was surprised to see they reverted their sat images back to 2003-2010. It must have been about a month or so ago I checked and it was fairly current. Good catch!

Originally posted by Aliquandro
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I just checked Google Earth and was surprised to see they reverted their sat images back to 2003-2010. It must have been about a month or so ago I checked and it was fairly current. Good catch!

Here is a whole series of high quality photos of Fukushima from ground level and dating around mid January. These guys aren't the only ones who manage to consistently grab lines of photos coming out of that place, but that are generally carrying ones others don't get or choose not to make available. Hope it helps!

Fukushima Nuke Plant at or around Jan. 10-12, 2012.

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ITS EASIER TO KILL US OFF, THAN ADMIT THEY DONT HAVE CONTROL!

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the "waste" fuel is sold secretly to other countries as a commonity to be reused as fuel! even if they didnt have the technolegy yet (but they do) its being saved underground until they can reuse it! Its money!

The japanese culture is all about allowing yourself to be personally humiliated in front of others, as a sign of respect in some cases, and as humor in others,... while at the same time, "saving face" when it comes to important issues...

The "saving face" part of their culture has been exploited by TPTB and, as a result, the entire globe gets dosed with harmful radiation...nice...

The Japanese Gov. will let their entire country (and the rest of us) die a slow painful death before admitting any sort of blame...

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Thanks for checking....I wasn't sure if it was always blocked out for security or not.


Thanks Wrabbit for the pictures...don't know what I expected to see, but I wouldn't want to be one of those guys in those chintzy suits cleaning up! And how about the bus in the one pic, I assume to transport the workers. Do you think it gets decontaminated too?

Originally posted by skitzspiricy
How is this still happening?

Have any of the reactors actually been entombed yet?

When Chernobyl happened they were on it immediately.

It's been almost a year now and this mess is still going on.

Madness!!!

They cant entombed them at the moment,
all that they can do is to stop the Fission (uncontrolled Fusion).

In Chernobyl we faced a different Scenario,
the Core of the Reactor was "blown out", mostly gone,
they could not do anything,
the Core was spread above whole North-Europe!

In Daiichi we face the active Cores, or better molten Cores aka Corium
en.wikipedia.org...
and they are, should be still inside of the Primary Containment Vessel,
when we just entombed this whole Plant we still have the Fission
until we reach a critical Point where everything explode again!

The Entombment in Chernobyl also took years and do not happened overnight,
this Sarcophagus is broken, with Holes bigger than 50-100 Square-meters,
Birds are nesting inside and everything is un-protected, Un-shilded ,
many People do not know than Chernobyl can return to a disaster
at any moment !

They need a new Sarcophagus asap.,
but the Ukraine do not have the Money (at least 1 Billion Euro)
and the EU dont want to help, only the Germans are willing to pay a bit!

Please also do not forget the High Price they paid for this PR-Action,
so many young Mens lost their Life in Chernobyl,
only a few of the 600.000 Liquidators are still alive,
i am very happy that we don't see this kind of Kamikaze-Mode in F'Shima anymore!

Don't fall for the Gossip that F'Shima is still spreading massive amount of Radiation,
it is still high but not massive like we saw in the beginning,
compare to the first two Weeks we see now 1/ 13.000.000 of the Becquerel Emission
and this is much less

(before they 13.000.000 bigger Emission)

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It is amazing to see the pictures isn't it? I feel the same way as you do each time a new set comes out and it's been awhile between them...but it's never quite what I see there. I don't know what strikes you the most but for me, it's the totaly sense of normalcy and routine they've managed to apparently fall into, even there. It's just amazing to me what man can adapt to in order to get something accomplished that needs doing. The Japanese are incredible people.

In all seriousness... I got to thinking what possible benefit or reason there could be to reverting satellite imagery of a dead exclusion zone. Then it hit me... Oh my... that isn't a dead zone..not really..is it? There is more to see across the fields and farms of desolate silence than the Japanese Government may want on the front page of a human interest piece. Dead animals...and probably some real nasty examples..that humans may or may never get by to do anything about again.

....Somewhere in all that, I bet there is a growing collection of buses too. I'll bet they all look about the same...and every few trips in and out, another one is parked with no intention of ever driving it anywhere else again.

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yes thats what I thought when i saw the large area blocked out.....what do they not want us to see....what kind of devastation is there? Maybe dead vegetation also? it does look so normal though...I think I expected it to look like after the bomb dropped. it's amazing how it can look so normal and be so deadly.

Fingers crossed Japan wont get another quake 8+ for the next X years.
How long do they have to wait approximately before everything is stable and can be covered up or de-commissioned ?
Anyway, I dont like the odds vs 4 fault lines.

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How can you be so ignorant? When everything is a setup. They are trying to kill off 90% of the population on earth,
trying so hard the last 50 years. That we are still alive is clearly proof that we have divine intervention. Can't you see
by now, that there are always two forces at war? One to kill us & the other to save us? Any 10 year old can figuer it
out. It is getting nastier all the time. The good guys always cleaning up behind atrocities, while evil is looking for the
next vile attack. When will we ever be on top of it or a step ahead? They already took away our minds by blasting us
with EMF waves day & night into almost apathic zombies. So now we still have the best left, our hearts. Let's use it
& call upon the Almighty to come & help us, its that simple. We do have a direct line to God, use it & call out loud with
open heart, from your heart. Kill'em with kindness. It works, cause love is the ultimate power in the universe.
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www.jimstonefreelance.com...

Errrr.....So should we be freaked out or not?

After reading the comments posted here I have some questions:

I have been seeing this a bit here but have no idea what it stands for:
TPTB
anyone?

Also, what Human0815 wrote regarding Chernobyl -
Is that true? I'm not doubting but it's too shocking, surely to
be true - Geez - God or Ultimate being or Human endurance save us all from man's stupidity !

And regarding posts about Google Earth pics being blocked out? I've heard this before about sensitive areas, but this beggars the question? Who owns Google Earth? Who 'tells' Google Earth to block out pics?

Has anyone read the book - 'The Karma Affair' by Arsen Darnay? I read it many, many years ago,(was written in the late 70s when we were all spooked about nuclear war and nuclear waste and the 'life' of said waste etc, and it struck a chord with my impressionable teenage mind) and I recently came across a copy so read it again -----

We, the 99%, can only ponder/wonder/muse/freakout about what final solution the keepers of Chernobyl and Fukushima will decide on -

Brainwashed karmic monks forever, into eternity, devoted to protecting a poison they don't understand? -----

That book may turn out to be pretty prophetic (aside from the Giant telepathic rabbits of course - or maybe not - who knows what mutant monsters lurk the darkened shadows of Chernobyl and Fukushima ? )

In Fellowship

TheEmotionalSocialist

Game over, Temp is now 275.9 C

Tepco

Originally posted by Gigman
Game over, Temp is now 275.9 C

Tepco

TEPCO Evening Press Conference 2/13/2012: Reactor 2 RPV Thermocouple Is Broken, Matsumoto Says

The last time this particular thermocouple went to that level, it was March 2011. TEPCO was measuring the electrical resistance of the thermocouple before the temperature suddenly shot up to 285 degrees at 3PM. Resistance 500 to 530 ohm. The instrument has totally failed, says TEPCO's Matsumoto.

Interesting question from a reporter from Nico Nico: Are you going to test the other two thermocouples at the bottom of the RPV? A: No. Yomiuri: Did measuring the resistance break the thermocouple? A: We don't know why the temperature shot up after we finished the measurement.

Yomiuri: Do you know when this thermocouple broke? A: At least, until the end of January it was showing the same trend as the other two. We want to carefully compare with other thermocouples.

Read the rest: ex-skf.blogspot.com...

Sounds like they need Macgyver over there if all they think about is bandaid solutions, sure he could patch it up using the resources from a japanese kitchen.

Sorry DP.

If it hasnt harmed us yet, i think worrying about it is rediculous.

Originally posted by kman420
If it hasnt harmed us yet, i think worrying about it is rediculous.

Yeah thats right... Its like if you have a 5 year old kid with a loaded gun aimed at your f**ing SKULL you wouldn't worry cause you're not dead yet! Makes perfect sense to me.