Renowned Geophysicist Says Strange Sky Sounds Are Real

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I'm reposting this question in case you missed it.

OK this sounds reasonable. I'm somewhat familiar with the use of magnetics to record, such as audio tape, magnetic strips on cards, etc. but I can't explain how magnetic changes alone create these sounds. Help?

ETA: I watched the vid. Didn't catch an explanation for sounds from magnetic changes.

Reading this article, it seems apparent that it is the interaction of increased solar activity with unstable geo-magnetic movement that is producing the low frequency sound phenomena. Even the questions were steered at getting the expert to commit to an either/or explanation.

This illustrates a very sublime weakness in the Western/Greek mindset, which is linear, and for the most part either/or. We find it very hard to accept that the expert talked about (as well as many other factors) is producing these sounds. A Western mindset makes it difficult to see the whole picture. To a Western mind, one piece of the puzzle has to be the answer.

The whole "global warming" argument is a perfect illustration of this blindness in Western thought. Ask Al Gore. It's all man-made. The Sun would have to go supernova before he'd even consider the Sun as a factor. By that time he'd be a french fry.

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suppose that HAARP is emitting elf signals,which they claim they are capable of doing but do not practice. Elf signals can be transmitted thru the ground or sea such as communication with submarines. What would be the side effects of such transmissions from different HAARP installations from around the world?

Originally posted by mother1138
Applause to that researcher for taking this seriously. I think it's too easy for others in the scientific community to blow this kind-of thing off.

I think it's interesting that the sun has been more active lately, and so have reports of the "sky sounds." Seems worthy of genuine scientific research.

It depends upon some of the acoustic properties of this SOUND. For the most part, anecdotal reports claim it's like metal scraping on metal or an airplane that goes on for many minutes. We've heard thunder and rumbling created by lightning, but in all the time of many, many solar storms or aurora borealis -- I've never heard of sky sounds.

>> Not that we can KNOW anything yet -- but my instincts tell me that the MOST LIKLEY culprit is something in the ground.

I do not think it would be CORE related, because that's too deep -- and would create tremors around the planet (rather than localized to a few thousand miles). The SMALLER the location, the more shallow the source.

Since we've never been around for a magnetic pole reversal, perhaps there are destabilized magnetic zones that cause changes in metals in the ground, and the polarity reversals would have acoustic properties -- but THEN the military and lot's of guidance systems that use gravity and magnetic maps would notice.

>> Of the terrestrial changes, I'm thinking that receding ice might be the culprit -- it's causing massive tectonic changes that are shallow in places like the Antarctic, and mid-continental zones can also be affected so it's not just going to be on fault lines (think of a sheet of metal buckling up when the edges are bent -- mid-plate quakes are often the rarest but most violent).


>> The we've got theories of massive underground railways where the elites plan to hide out while the rest of us die on the surface during some cataclysm. They of course, are the most essential and necessary people for the future, because we will need only the most selfish bastards with no conscience to rebuild society -- of course, nobody will be left to clean the dishes as there will be nothing but Bosses and no Peons.

My theory: Oil and gas fracking pumps. Big gangs of turbo machinery. Sounds like it has a principal frequency which to me sounds like rotating machinery more than auroral interactions (which would usually produce a more broadband effect unless there is some resonance).

They are being heard frequently in areas of new shale drilling. Canada, Pennsylvania, Texas, etc. It explains why we are hearing it now, and not before on other solar maxima, because there's much more fracking now than before.

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dchlaw.com...

compare to this:

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When atmospheric conditions are right/wrong then the noise might travel quite a long distance (like ducting from thunderstorms).

Drillers won't admit to anything obviously because they'd get a regulator.

Originally posted by DenyObfuscation
reply to post by tpaine1809

 

I'm reposting this question in case you missed it.

OK this sounds reasonable. I'm somewhat familiar with the use of magnetics to record, such as audio tape, magnetic strips on cards, etc. but I can't explain how magnetic changes alone create these sounds. Help?

ETA: I watched the vid. Didn't catch an explanation for sounds from magnetic changes.

edit on 12-2-2012 by DenyObfuscation because: There's always more

Well, the average Speaker is an electromagnet or rare earth magnet in a coil and the analog signal going down your speaker wire causes the magnet to move up and down, pushing a diaphragm that actually produces the sound.

A slow change in magnetism wouldn't have a sound -- but a fluctuation would. It's believed that rising columns of magma in the mantel, can cause localized changes in magnetic fields, because under these extreme pressures, many liquid substances act as a conductor. Any time a conductor moves through a magnetic field (the earths), it creates an electromagnetic force (the earth and all the planets actually have a RADIO sound -- which you can search for on YouTube -- Mercury is really freaky sounding for instance -- and Earth sounds like Wind).

So a sound could be created by either pressurized rock shifting, or by a magnetic field acting on large metallic ore deposits or veins in other rock. That said -- such a thing would be measurable, and it stands to reason that SOMEONE would have detected these magnetic anomalies by now -- they'd have to be many times stronger in a local area than earth's normal magnetic field.

>> There are a few OTHER things, however, that are theorized to be caused by pressurized rock and during earth quakes. Balls of plasma can be created called "Ball lightning", and some piezoelectric distortions from crystals crushed in fault lines might create other atmospheric anomalies.


>> Could there be Magma plumes coming near the surface that could create sounds? Sure. But you'd probably have a lot of earthquakes and some measurable events if this were the case.

Don't we all know, it's the dragon causing the noises

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OK. Shifting rocks make noise. "Magnetic changes" alone (that's the original claim in question) hasn't been explained. I definitely get the impression many people believe they are "hearing magnetic energy". I don't get it.

From discussions before, most people came to the conclusion that the noises are in someway related to our atmosphere .. magnetosphere or something to that effect.

certainly is something odd going on hey, one day we will figure out the answer to it all!

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My question is, how would somebody think they are NOT real?!
They are being heard all over the world, I mean jesus we have like thirty video posts on here from fellow members hearing it.
You'd have to be a real loon to think that these are fake..

Originally posted by Kali74
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Generally I would defer to you as you seem to have much more scientific knowledge than I but, I'm getting something else entirely than wild guesses...

“We have analyzed records of these sounds and found that most of their spectrum lies within the infrasound range, i.e. is not audible to humans. What people hear is only a small fraction of the actual power of these sounds. They are low-frequency acoustic emissions in the range between 20 and 100 Hz modulated by ultra-low infrasonic waves from 0.1 to 15 Hz. In geophysics, they are called acoustic-gravity waves....”

So this type of thing is actually normal geomagnetic activity but on a larger scale, we don't typically hear this happening even though it is normal. So he goes on to suggest that something more powerful is causing the magnetosphere to hum like we have been hearing, to me it's a logical step that the stronger CME/Flares we have been having the past couple of years (if I recall that correctly) is going to cause a louder hum to the point of being audible to human ears. Maybe this is why animals go nuts before geo activity, if this is what they're hearing I can understand why.

ETA: Great thread OP, thanks for sharing.

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In part i think solar cycle activity ramping up is one factor.

Remember the last solar max in 2001-3? There were 2-3 X class flares around then,

including a monster X20+ (off the chart)....the 2011 flares haven't been that strong.

The ELF spectrum in his discussion is what intrigues me. That's navy sub spectrum,

HAARP spectrum, and heck - even the crazy early ELF of the German U-boat fleet

who knew how to transmit messages across oceans by going THROUGH the planet.

Point?

This is the earth's core revving up for some reason. An 'Earth harmonic' if you will.

Some electromagnetic interaction of huge amplitude, perhaps an interaction with

an inbound large mass, long periodicity, ancient object? (sorry, had to throw nemesis in).



It's almost too obvious.

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HAARP heats the ionosphere, that's all it does. The scientists who work there don't have to hide anything, the project isn't even classified and it holds public open houses several times a year for those curious about the facility.

As for the OP: Khalilov is indeed a real scientist with real credentials but that being said he's still just one man. We cannot simply assume that the sounds are real based on one man's opinion, that would just be an empty appeal to authority. The vast majority of the videos I've watched are obvious hoaxes, still others might simply be mis-identifications of ordinary sounds. For instance I work near a highway but not in sight of it, at night I can hear the sound of truck tires on that road. This can produce some incredibly eerie sounds very reminiscent of those in the "strange sounds" videos I've seen. People might well mistake ordinary sounds for extraordinary ones especially if they are in the right mindset.

I think they are probably real.
I would like to say that I've never heard them myself before though.

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Doesn't mean its not real.
I dont see the air that i breathe, but im pretty sure its real.
Or maybe its not

Originally posted by Kovenov
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I starred your post not because I believe what you describe will occur, but rather that its "uh oh" value reminded me of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" & roused a chuckle out of me. But if what you posit does occur then ... I suppose I'll shake my head back and forth and chuckle again. Something about "uh oh" moments really brings out the gallows humor in me.

Cool profile pic by the way.

Profile pic was drawn by me 15-20 years ago......sadly I have no idea where the original paper drawing is, only the jpg....

Anything is possible and anyone saying this or that or whatever shouldn't / can't happen is totally naive. What do scientists really know about the workings of the earth, the sun, the galaxy, etc? Scientists can't even agree on what caused dinosaur extinction, and they've had decades to come to some unifying theory, let alone what's causing the strange noises.

Just as earth rotates around the sun causing our seasons, who is to deny that the sun is not entering one of its seasons as it rotates around whatever, which could affect the sun and or planets how? Plus, just as the moon exerts a gravitational pull on the oceans, causing tides to rise and fall, who is to deny that some celestial body / black hole, whatever could cause the sun, as it enters one of its seasons, to exert some electrical / magnetic / yet unknown force on planet earth which could be the source of hell knows what (including strange noises).

One day, probably sooner than later, we're going to be in for the shock of our lives.... I only pray I'm close to family when whatever happens.

I'm at least glad to see a scientist even approach this topic. I was wary to post in any of the other "me too" threads since I've heard it a few times as well. It always sounds like a very low and quiet rumble that cycles up down, and for me it's as if I feel it first before I hear it. So I can relate to the fact it could be ELF or some such frequency.

I don't know if its solar wind, magnetic disturbances or space ships, but it is something I can witness and speculate on until the scientists investigate further.

Heard it again last night aswell good to see the possibility being brought forward

I actually heard something very similar to the sound on Saturday afternoon in Grimsby UK.

When I first heard them on Youtube, I had the similar "is it a hoax?" thought that lots of people have, becasue it DOES sound like it's been taken from War of the Worlds....

But then I heard it on Saturday afternoon for real...

BUT I know what caused it - we are a port and with the fog and snow we had here at the weekend, the foghorns seemed to echo all around, and could not be pinpointed to the direction of the docks.

I don't know what conditions were like in the "real" videos, but it crossed my mind in similar atmospherics distorting a regular sound were the casue?

Originally posted by UKLionheart
I actually heard something very similar to the sound on Saturday afternoon in Grimsby UK.

When I first heard them on Youtube, I had the similar "is it a hoax?" thought that lots of people have, becasue it DOES sound like it's been taken from War of the Worlds....

But then I heard it on Saturday afternoon for real...

BUT I know what caused it - we are a port and with the fog and snow we had here at the weekend, the foghorns seemed to echo all around, and could not be pinpointed to the direction of the docks.

I don't know what conditions were like in the "real" videos, but it crossed my mind in similar atmospherics distorting a regular sound were the casue?

Trumpet or Fracking sounds? (As they seem VERY different to me).
Did you get a recording?