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I’m not saying the creators of “Star Trek” were conservatives; they weren’t. But liberalism has shifting values, and for a brief period at the end of the 1960s, liberalism temporarily overlapped with the values of classical liberalism, which is the foundation of modern conservatism. “Star Trek” benefited from this. In fact, I think you’ll be surprised how deeply conservative these shows are. So join us as we dissect the conservative nature of “Star Trek,” the original series, and sometimes compare it to the intensely liberal “Next Generation.” Let’s start today with Episode 50: “Patterns of Force.”
The Plot
This is “the Nazi episode.” The Enterprise is sent to the planet Ekos to investigate the disappearance of Federation historian John Gill. Gill, one of Kirk’s professors at Starfleet Academy, went to Ekos to observe their culture. As the Enterprise nears Ekos, the crew is shocked when a nuclear missile is fired at them. Beaming down in secret, they discover that the Ekosians have replicated Nazi Germany, right down to the uniforms, and the Ekosians are planning to exterminate their peaceful planetary neighbors, the Zeons. What’s worse, John Gill has made himself the Führer! Eventually, Kirk and Spock find a way to get to Gill. When they reach him, they discover he’s been drugged into a stupor and is little more than a literal figurehead. Deputy Führer Melakon is the real power.
Why It’s Conservative
On its surface, you might think a story about Nazis is left wing. After all, Hollywood wants you to believe the Nazis were a right-wing phenomenon equivalent to Libertarianism/ Conservatism. This is laughable, as the national socialist Nazis were everything the left claims to love. Yet, many people still ignorantly accept the idea the Nazis were rightists rather than leftists because that’s what they’ve been taught by leftist teachers. So it shouldn’t surprise us if a show about Nazis was meant as an attack on conservatives.
But “Patterns of Force” isn’t actually an anti-Nazi story. Rather, it’s a warning against the idea of the “benign” totalitarian government.
Rather, it’s a warning against the idea of the “benign” totalitarian government.
I'm an absolute geek when it comes to Star Trek.
Originally posted by ProudBird
EDIT...OH, "Jeebus!!!!"
Can't believe I fell for this nonsense!!
The "Star Trek" episode titled Patterns of Force was an obvious statement about the current socio-political events in that era (the late 1960s).....
I am sure you (as a "Star Trek" fellow fan, am fully aware of this?? (I hope...I hope.....).....
edit on Sat 11 February 2012 by ProudBird because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Kenrichaed
Roddenberry was promoting his vision of a Utopian Socialistic society with his creation of the Star Trek universe. It is far removed from anything to do with what the Constitution stands for.
Originally posted by Ixtab
Counting the days to a one world rodenberry style government to be honest.
Originally posted by Ixtab
reply to post by beezzer
Nah I doubt a global cataclysm is the answer, we would loose the internet, probably the very thing that will allow us to evolve past this backward notion of nationalism and borders.
Originally posted by PsykoOps
Star Trek is always interesting it's "look back" to our times and our near future. One of my favourites was the episode in DS9 where Sisko is sent back in time and is then put in place of the guy who starts the revolution to the "ideal" society they have. For those who don't know ST universe there is one world government type of situation except it's not evil and for example money doesn't excist anymore etc.
Originally posted by PsykoOps
People wouldn't probably hold that true to their country or nationality if there were several species of aliens known to us. Some of which aren't that friendly either.edit on 11/2/2012 by PsykoOps because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Kenrichaed
I don't see a one world government happening on Earth either but once we start migrating into space I think its really the only option.
Originally posted by Haites
Sorry i really dislike the original series.
2nd line
Originally posted by beezzer
Originally posted by PsykoOps
People wouldn't probably hold that true to their country or nationality if there were several species of aliens known to us. Some of which aren't that friendly either.edit on 11/2/2012 by PsykoOps because: (no reason given)
Would need more proof, but say (in a Star Trek universe) a Vulcan ship DID land, then it might shake up a few beliefs.edit on 11-2-2012 by beezzer because: (no reason given)