My Breakfast with a CIA Whistleblower.

If you want to know if he was really CIA ask him what my name means. You can PM me the answer and I can confirm it if you wish.

Welcome to ATS. Enjoy your stay.
See what he knows about what crashed in Kecksburg.

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Welcome to ATS. Your inquisitiveness is refreshing. You'll fit in here nicely....

Des

I completely agree that things like this cannot be taken at face value. Unless there was actual proof that he was in the CIA to begin with, I wouldn't believe anything he said on conspiracy-like subject matter. This is just because there actually are people who just make up lies for seemingly no reason at all, although there is a psychological reason at play, but that isn't the point. The point is that it happens a LOT in America.

Sometimes these people are completely normal as well, and sometimes they actually believe what they are saying is the truth, when it actually is all fabricated. I mean what did he really tell you, besides what has been talked about since 1947? I would expect someone who is making up stories about aliens and the CIA, if they weren't true, to repeat common knowledge type "facts" or opinions, as they are not likely to know about some of the less publicized cases unless they have studied the subject...Which often people who lie do not, as they just make stuff up on the spot.

I am not saying this is definitely what is happening in this situation, so please don't take it the wrong way. I am just trying to convey what you should watch out for, so you don't get suckered in by something that isn't true. Another thing that I personally find odd, and this may be an unfounded opinion, is that if he were in the CIA, why would he need to know anything about aliens of Roswell? That was military intelligence to my knowledge, and stuff like that is extremely compartmentalized. The CIA deals more with domestic and clandestine subjects and issues, and most likely not aliens.

So unless he can either confirm he was in the agency, or can at least tell you some information that hasn't been regurgitated endlessly in the past, I would take any information he shares with you with a grain of salt. And again, that is just my opinion...Remember though, a healthy skepticism is always better than being gullible. Good luck tomorrow, and who knows, maybe you WILL find out who really killed Kennedy.

Thanks Jiggy, haha I enjoyed reading that comment. I too believe its better to be skeptical than gullible. I will try to get some real evidence he was in the CIA for sure. And any evidence he presents I will ask his source. (like who told him or why he knows that) there's no reason for him to lie to me, so I'll just see what he knows. If he doesn't know something he will probably tell me he doesn't know, or there was no need for him to know or whatever the case.

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I would be interested in any info on abductions. More specificly;
1)who is performing the abductions? If its greys than do the operate on their own or for another species?

2)to what goal are these abductions focused on?

3)is being an abductee good or bad for your health?

4)is there a guiding law or policy that resembles a platform of noninvolvement similar to the "prime directive" of star trek? If so then who enforces said policy?

5)can/would another race intervene with our world to protect us from ourselves or an outside source?

I too am curious about the abduction phenomenon, and I'll ask about that.. I just called and confirmed the breakfast is still on. So keep posted and I'll reply to the thread tomorrow with a detailed description of what he said. Thanks guys! Glad to have finally Made an account after so long of visiting this site.

To my eyes, the most important thing to ask would be
- Have you seen or heard anyone who saw a "free energy" device operating?
- If yes, why is it hidden from us since it could potentially save the earth?
- If not, how are our military UFOs powered?

Thanks, looking forward to your summary

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I don't know that it's greatly wiser to U2U you . . . but I will anyway.

THANKS MUCH FOR THIS THREAD.

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Seems wise to me to go to a very rural setting with takeout food . . .

or have a couple of radios on the table tuned to different stations--preferably one poorly tuned with random noise, static interferring that the conversation can barely be heard above.

I wouldn't consider any room, car or home very safe at all. And, I'd remove my cell phone batteries and leave the cell phones at home.

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I don't think I'll have to go through all that, but thanks for your concern.
I got your questions and will tell you if any info I get can answer them..

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Thanks for your kind reply.

Prayers for a smooth, hassle free and successful time of dialogue and sharing.

Cheers for your candor and thoughtfulness.

Blessings,
BX

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Thanks for your kindness friend, I'm going to have a smoke, and go to bed. Stay tuned, sometime tomorrow I'll reply with a detailed account of what he said.. My thanks to you and everyone who has welcomed me on the site.
Cheers..

Before you interrogate the old dude you might want to buy him a sandwich at a restaurant. It's open all night. You have a Denny's near around?

Then you have him one on one. And you should always operate under the assumption that he is actually trying to convey top secrets to you, that he is doing so at his own risk and for your benefit.

Because you are playing the role of Fox Moulder, are you not?

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You're quite welcome.

I hope your breakfast has gone well and that interesting things will be posted when workable for you.

I was thinking this morning . . . IF he doesn't seem all that concerned about getting in trouble . . . it may well be

that he is one of the . . . seemingly many . . .

. . . sources . . .

some would say disinformation sources . . .

to get out through just exactly such means and framed in just these ways . . . what the oligarchy and the critters

WANT to get out at this point.

I don't mind taking your narrative at face value. A psychologist routinely takes personal narratives at face value and evaluates them for truth etc. as the counseling goes along.

I have a lot of respect for personal narratives after 30+ years of counseling a diversity of people on 2 continents.

Thanks for your efforts.

Hey guys, just got home. Breakfast was good. We went to a buffet and sat at a secluded booth. It will take me awhile to process everything he said and write it down.. I can guarantee that he was in the CIA, then later worked with nuclear energy.. Keep posted.

And if you think that I'm making this up or its fabricated I feel bad for you. Because this is reality, this Whole account is real and indeed happened. I can guarantee on everything I am as a human/soul.

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Thanks for the update.

I have no trouble believing you at all.

However, having listened to thousands of hours of personal narratives over 30 years of counseling . . . maybe my sensors 'cheat' . . . LOL.

Thanks for taking this seriously and taking the time to organize or at least write down well what you plan to share with us.

We are just eager to read it. LOL.

I hope . . . though it's maybe meaningless . . . that after you write it and post it . . . that you file 3-5 copies around with those you care for a lot. Nice to have important docs distributed. LOL.

At last. We can get a some real true answers from a real source.

Good work Mysteriousness. Looking forward to your replies.

Peace

S & F

JFK, Montauk, Hollow-Earth theory to name a few.

In the end though it really depends on his clearance level I suppose. Whether he obtained "cosmic" clearance or higher will likely play a role in what he "knows" and what he thinks is going on. You could proabably ask him why the CIA continues to rape other countries for coc aine and heroin as well.. But we all really know that comes down to money.

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Hi, Waiting for your narrative. What's taking so long ?