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ET Intervention - The Greatest Threshold the Humanity Will Ever Have to Face in its History

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posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 11:10 PM
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"hello you have grown up" so lets trade and and join what federation that might be out there.
Yes, maybe, but i think the "Oh, you have mastered technology better than us, we will give you "Some" attention, because you are a force to be reckoned with now", is probably closer to the truth.



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 01:03 AM
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Originally posted by Illustronic
If we are to take what you say,

The Greatest Threshold the Humanity Will Ever Have to Face in its History
as fact, then one would logically conclude that no ET interaction is occurring.


If you want to be technical about it, the title should be “ET Intervention – The Greatest Threshold, Greater than Anything that the Humanity Has Ever Had to Face and Will Ever Have to Face in its History.” However, as is, it was already taking up too much space in the title area, and I had to reduce it down a bit.



posted on Feb, 15 2012 @ 03:08 PM
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Why would they be visiting?

Because they are ageless and bored.

Given their level of technology we are just Chimps using sticks to find termites. We should not flatter ourselves to think we are worthy of any real attention on the part of anycivilisation that could cross the stars. In fact I would say that we would want to avoid such attention at all costs if we want to be the masters of our own fate...



posted on Feb, 16 2012 @ 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by notkmarx
while i don't agree on the likelihood of "ancient aliens" being the "creator" of the human race.
i do find it, a probable theory, that "ancient aliens" we're a "part" of humanity's past.
other than that i don't think we'll ever truly know their motives.
it is not within their interest to be honest.
even a child could tell you're doing something wrong when you skulk around in the dark.

to the OP. i've read your other thread and you seem to use AoH as your main "source".
AoH could very well be the negative entities using the guise of "benevolent" aliens to subvert mankind with misdirection and lies.
another cover-up for their true motives.
the idea of off-world human "slave labor" seems less likely in my opinion.


That’s correct; it is not in the interest of the ET Intervention to be honest with the humanity because it is here to overtake the world covertly.

Have you read the Allies of Humanity in its entirety? Then perhaps you could tell me in what ways the Allies of Humanity may be attempting to subvert the humanity with misdirection and lies.

It is a legitimate question to ask whether the Allies of Humanity might not have any dark intention for the humanity. Let’s then consider the ET Collectives intervening our world and the Allies of Humanity.

For readability and due to lack of space, I will divide my response in several posts.



posted on Feb, 16 2012 @ 02:41 PM
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What do ET Collectives do?

They are here to exploit the world and appropriate our resources. However, they cannot breathe the atmosphere and they cannot withstand germs. Despite all their advanced technology, they are not able to live in this world. So, they need humans to work for them. These ET Collectives are then here to acquire resources, human allegiance, and to covertly conquer the world eventually.

  1. They seek to gain influences over individuals in positions of power and authority through their power of persuasions. The promise of greater power, greater technology, and world domination will intrigue and incite many individuals. And it is these individuals with whom the visitors will seek to establish a liaison. Look at the world very objectively. Then you will see this occurring.

  2. They seek to gain people’s allegiance by manipulating their religious values and impulses, for they understand that humanity’s greatest abilities also represent its greatest vulnerability. Several groups of the visitors wish to establish themselves as spiritual agents because they know how to speak in the Mental Environment. They can communicate to people directly, and unfortunately, because there are very few people in the world who can discern the difference between a spiritual voice and the visitors’ voice, the situation becomes very difficult. It will be extremely rare, indeed, that anyone will hear divine voice. Have you seen people who claim that they hear divine voices? Yet, those people cannot discern divine voice from the voices of the ET Collectives who pose as divine presence. What they hear will not have the Power of God, but rather coaxing and allurement with what people want (spiritual uplifting, peace on Earth, solutions to global issues, etc. among other things) and disempowerment of humanity (posing as benevolent beings here to help the humanity fight against other groups of the ET Intervention). They will say and do anything to gain human allegiance. Alas, their words are only seduction and empty promises.

  3. They seek to establish themselves in the world and to have people become used to this presence. To serve this purpose, they will create establishments here, though not in view. These establishments will be hidden, but they will be very powerful in casting an influence on human populations that are near them. The alien presence in the world is growing. It is growing every day, every year. Many more people are falling under its persuasion, losing their ability to know, becoming confused, and distracted, believing in things that can only weaken them and make them impotent in the face of those who would seek to use them for their own purposes. The “visitors” seek to have people believe that the visitors are their ancestors, that the visitors are their home. Many people want to believe, and so they believe. People want to give over their personal authority, and so it is given over. People want to see friends and salvation in the visitors, and so this is what they are shown. Do you see this occurring in the world?

  4. They seek to establish themselves in the world and to have people become used to this presence. To serve this purpose, they will create establishments here, though not in view. These establishments will be hidden, but they will be very powerful in casting an influence on human populations that are near them. The alien presence in the world is growing. It is growing every day, every year. Many more people are falling under its persuasion, losing their ability to know, becoming confused, and distracted, believing in things that can only weaken them and make them impotent in the face of those who would seek to use them for their own purposes. The “visitors” seek to have people believe that the visitors are their ancestors, that the visitors are their home. Many people want to believe, and so they believe. People want to give over their personal authority, and so it is given over. People want to see friends and salvation in the visitors, and so this is what they are shown. You’ve heard of human-alien hybrids, haven’t you?




posted on Feb, 16 2012 @ 02:47 PM
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On the other hand, what do Allies of Humanity do?

They represent a small group who came to observe the events of our world. They came from the Greater Community. They do not interfere in human affairs. They have no establishment here. They have been sent for a very specific purpose – to witness the events that are occurring in our world and communicate to us what they have seen and what they know. They seek no relations with humanity. They are not here on a diplomatic mission.

They came in a group of nine individuals, to observe the activities carried out by the ET Intervention, alert the humanity about it, educate the humanity about the reality of life in the universe, and provide the preparation to counteract the ET Intervention. They represent the Wise in the universe. In effect, they were the enemies of the ET Intervention from the perspectives of the ET Intervention. After The Allies of Humanity – Book I, the first set of briefings, was published, their presence became known to the ET Intervention. In order to protect their own home worlds, four of the individuals had to destroy themselves and their vehicle so that they could not be traced. They gave their life for the humanity and their worlds.

Then the second set of briefings, The Allies of Humanity – Book II, was transmitted within 24 hours, as they were preparing to leave the solar system to a remote area in the galaxy because search for them was underway by the ET Intervention. They wouldn't be able to return to their home worlds, for they would surely be followed by the ET Intervention and their worlds will become imperiled. So, the rest of the Allies of Humanity have left our solar system, after they have counseled us through their briefings. This makes the situation very clear to the humanity, for the only ETs that the humanity will encounter are those with dark intentions, regardless of how they portray themselves (as benevolent, spiritual, helpers, ancestors,...).

The humanity has not yet gained the ability to discern its true allies from its adversaries that pose as allies. Part of its preparation to thwart the ET Intervention is then to gain the ability to discern. The Allies of Humanity tell us that we already possess the technology, resources, and abilities to solve all human issues ourselves. They tell us the danger of receiving technology or help from the ET Intervention or accepting any inducements, for then those human beings will have fallen under the ET Intervention’s persuasion; this will, in effect, have enslaved them, for the ET Intervention will want and take a lot more in return. They tell us through cooperation and unity, the humanity can strengthen itself to thwart the ET Intervention by declaring its sovereignty over this solar system and establish its own rules of Contact, for the ET Intervention is undeniably making unethical Contact with the humanity. They tell us that we have great spiritual gifts within ourselves, potentials which we need to recognize, employ, and share. They tell us that we have the power to see, to know, and to take the right course of actions in alignment with God’s Will and in harmony with the world.

The Allies of Humanity did not want anything in return. They did not want human allegiance. They did not seek any relations with the humanity, or seek resources or commerce agreements. They do not seek to establish themselves here. They encourage us to unite. They empower us by encouraging us to prepare to offset the ET Intervention, for the humanity is ignorant of the reality of life in the universe and the Mental Environment; it is weak and divided; and it is facing the Great Waves of Change. Thus, the humanity is more vulnerable to accept technology and inducements, fall under the persuasion of the ET Intervention, and give their power and authority over to unknown foreign races from outer space.

The Allies of Humanity left the solar system after counseling us, for that is the way those representing the Wise in the universe help emerging races such as the humanity...counseling without interfering or intervening in the human affairs.

THE ONLY ALIENS PRESENT IN THE SOLAR SYSTEM NOW ARE, THEN, THOSE WHO SEEK TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE HUMANITY, APPROPRIATE ITS RESOURCES, AND GAIN HUMAN ALLEGIANCE, FOR THE PURPOSE OF OVERTAKING THE WORLD EVENTUALLY.

Observe with great sobriety and objectivity.

You can see this.

You can know this.



posted on Feb, 16 2012 @ 02:55 PM
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Originally posted by ResistETIntervention
The Allies of Humanity did not want anything in return. They did not want human allegiance. They did not seek any relations with the humanity, or seek resources or commerce agreements. They do not seek to establish themselves here. They encourage us to unite. They empower us by encouraging us to prepare to offset the ET Intervention, for the humanity is ignorant of the reality of life in the universe and the Mental Environment; it is weak and divided; and it is facing the Great Waves of Change. Thus, the humanity is more vulnerable to accept technology and inducements, fall under the persuasion of the ET Intervention, and give their power and authority over to unknown foreign races from outer space.


That's nice and all, but against ET, hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side.
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posted on Feb, 18 2012 @ 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by mbkennel
That's nice and all, but against ET, hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side.


This is not about any religion. This is not about any system of beliefs.

You still do not see the bigger picture, if you think that this is about religions just because the Allies of Humanity practice the Greater Community Spirituality. It is true that God, the Creator of all life, through the Angelic Presence, has called upon these free races to provide this assistance to humanity; their mission was to observe and alert the humanity on the ET Intervention that is occurring in the world. It is true that the Angelic Presence that watches over the well-being and advancement of this world, has transmitted the New Message from God to alert, educate, and prepare the humanity for the future which will be unlike the past.

It is true, indeed, that there is a spiritual and divine involvement in alerting, educating, and preparing the humanity. Could you expect anything less given the circumstances? The humanity is emerging into the Greater Community of Worlds, the universe, whether it knows it or not, whether it is prepared or not, not because it is capable of traveling far into the space, but the forces from outer space have reached our shore intervening in the human affairs and influencing the humanity in order to covertly conquer the world. Yet, the humanity doesn’t have the vantage point to know what is occurring within its own world, let alone what is occurring in the space beyond this planet. Surely, the ET Intervention carrying out covert activities to gain control of the world wouldn’t inform the humanity of what is occurring as is; it would defeat their purpose. Then the only way the humanity can become alerted regarding the ET Intervention is through those races representing the Wise in the universe that were able to attain freedom in the galaxy, and through the Angelic Presence watching over the world.

Freedom is rare in the universe.


The visitors understand the hierarchy of power because they themselves live by it, following their own chain of command, you might say. They are highly organized and very focused in their endeavors, and the idea of having cultures full of free-thinking individuals is largely foreign to them. They do not comprehend or understand individual freedom. They are like many technologically advanced societies in the Greater Community who function both within their respective worlds and in their establishments across vast reaches of space, utilizing a very well-established and rigid form of government and organization. They believe that humanity is chaotic and unruly, and they feel they are bringing order to a situation that they cannot themselves comprehend. Individual freedom is unknown to them, and they do not see its value. As a result, what they seek to establish in the world will not honor this freedom.


Should the ET Intervention succeed in accomplishing its goal to conquer this world, this is what you can expect to see in the world.


If humanity should fail in opposing the Intervention, we can paint a picture of what this would mean. We have seen it elsewhere, for each one of us came very close, within our own worlds. Being part of a collective, the planet Earth will be mined for its resources, its people will be corralled to work and its rebels and heretics will be either alienated or destroyed. The world will be preserved for its agriculture and its mining interests. Human societies will exist, but only in subordination to powers from beyond your world. And should the world exhaust its usefulness, should its resources be completely taken, then you will be left, bereft. The supportive life upon your world will have been taken from you; the very means of survival will have been stolen. This has happened before in many other places.

In the case of this world, the collectives may choose to preserve the world for ongoing use as a strategic post and as a biological storehouse. Yet the human population would suffer terribly under such oppressive rule. The population of humanity would be reduced. The management of humanity would be given to those who are bred to lead the human race within a new order. Human freedom as you know it would no longer exist, and you would suffer under the weight of foreign rule, a rule that would be harsh and exacting.


-The Allies of Humanity – Book I
www.AlliesOfHumanity.org



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 08:48 AM
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Another activity that the ET Intervention has been carrying out:


They seek to establish themselves through interbreeding. They cannot live in this environment. They need our physical stamina. They need our natural affinity with the world. They need our reproductive abilities. They also want to bond with us because they understand that this creates allegiance. This, in a way, establishes their presence here because the offspring of such a program will have blood relations in the world and yet will have allegiance to the visitors. They want humanity to believe in them and to serve them. They want humanity to work for them. They will promise anything, offer anything, and do anything to achieve this goal. You’ve heard of human-alien hybrids, haven’t you?


To discuss further on this topic....



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by binkbonk
Why do "they" need to reveal anything to us? We were merely made to do the hard labor for them. We are no more than slaves, that eventually they tried to dispose of (like rodents). But, couldn't dispose of us, so tolerate and allow to exist with a mental bondage (religion, media, etc).


No. We were not “merely made to do the hard labor for them” by these ETs belonging to the ET Collectives. They are not the ones who seeded intelligent life on the Earth.

However, if the humanity does not awaken from its pacified state, does not become aware of the dire situation in time, or does not muster its strength to unite and cooperate to declare its sovereignty in this solar system and establish its own set of Rules of Contact with extraterrestrial beings, then it will lose its freedom and self-determination to the ET Intervention. Then, yes, it’s more likely than not, that human beings will be genetically manipulated, as were those ETs of the Collectives, and become biological robots working for the ET Intervention.



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 04:19 PM
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Um where is the proof that these two warring factions exists? Have you yourself met one? How do we know that this is not just another illusion of what is really going on? Dont get me wrong your theory is interesting, an intergalatic civil war sounds just like Star Wars! I hope we dont meet the same fate as Princess Leia's planet! Hopefully no deathstar will be lurking around!

if there IS a threat to Earth I am sure that there is a secret agreement/protocal in place amongst the world powers to face it. Ronald Regan once famously pondered on the possibility at the UN and Gorby backed him to the hilt. I thought that was significant in itself.



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 04:23 PM
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Yet another ATS who has self esteem issues. Whats wrong with people that they think so little of themselves? Didnt they get enough hugs as a child ? Did Daddy call them stupid or worthless ? Humans would get the attention of another intelligent race because we are also intelligent. Not chimps with a stick trying to get the termintes from the mound. Sheesh, arent you better than that?



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 04:28 PM
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A star goes super nova and out of that star a galaxy is formed. Planets and new stars. We are stardust. The planet is stardust. everything in the universe is stardust. You mean to tell me that we have something on this planet that cannot be found in thousands ,no millions, of other planets out there in the great big universe ? Our resources are the ones that they need ? Dont make me laugh.



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by binkbonk
It's been occurring for thousands of years and predates our existence. Why? Because they are our creators.

hahaha.. you could have been a little more tactful
You know there are some people who are going to have a problem with this...But Even so I agree with you..
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posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 04:30 PM
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Tell them we dont need any new relegions on this planet. The ones we have are already causing enough problems from one group to another. (Just more proof that this is plain old human imagination and not truth )



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 04:38 PM
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Wait, wait, they're going to establish a presence here to get us used to their existence but that presence will not be visable so we wont get used to them. That's rich.



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 04:48 PM
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People that channel supposed "alien messages" and "spirit messages" prove the deception - their messages are eerily similar. Why the heck would an "ET" be coming here to tell humanity that salvation is not necessary and that Christ Jesus was one of them? This is the exact same message received by those you channel "ascended beings" and "spirits".

Indoctrination of a new religion is what these "things" care about - these spirits work in conjunction with the handful of media owners that control and produce material that complements their message. The same media that drip feed western nations the most vile filth of violence, bloodshed, sex and debauchery as entertainment.
Face it - they despise Christ Jesus because they have lost a long time ago, but for a short while they are allowed to take along those who despised the Truth of their True Creator. That's what it's about OP - they deceive the perishing. And why are they perishing? Because they'd rather believe the lies and partake in evil and wickedness. They'd rather worship the creation than the Creator of Heaven and Earth. Their hearts will just be allowed to harden to love, reason, Truth and righteousness so much so that they will willingly accept this deception and go along with anything that these "things" suggest -



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 04:55 PM
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On this subject, a really good book that may interest you is Atlantis, Alien Visitation, and Genetic Manipulation by Michael Tsarion - Angels at Work Publishing, Santa Clara, California.

The video basically explains about the book and shows through documentation how throughout the history of man our species has possibly (notice I said possibly because I don't know for sure, it's still theory worthy of discussion but not trolling).

Note: as of now, any reply to one of my posts in this area that I consider trolling, baiting or just being nasty will simply be ignored.

I cannot help if the majority of people are so closed minded they refuse to at least consider another possibility.

If one has researched (and I have for about 30 years) that yes in my opinion, we as a species have been at war since we were dumped out of a gene splicer.

Once we get a little too awake, a little too smart, it seems our numbers are suddenly reduced and our technology goes back to the dark ages.

S&F because at least keeping this idea in the open may wake up at least a few more people.

The video is long, but it's really interesting. The book is about 450 pages long and I'm going back to reading it.

Mr. Tsarion goes into how religion and science has been one of the biggest liars, one of the two biggest organizations that has kept mankind in check, dumbed down and pelleted with lies and corruption.

Professing to be teachers of the light of mankind but in actuality genocidal, maniacal and psychopathic, holding us back from realizing our true potential.

Now when you say "occult" the word "occult" simply means hidden knowledge not magic or witchcraft.



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posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 05:17 PM
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Description of video (Find Coast to Coast always interesting).


Uploaded by RealityQuestioned on Oct 12, 2011
Author and investigator Graham Hancock talked about his research into ancient mysteries, supernatural beings, and parallel realms. He discussed the archaeological discovery of the megalithic site at Gobekli Tepe in Turkey, dating back almost 12,000 years old. On a scale like Stonehenge (though far older), "the site is constructed out of giant stones which have been carved very precisely often with reliefs of animals and strange supernatural figures," he noted. There is no context for a site like this in archaeological study; "it just seems to come out of nowhere...in a fully formed, incredibly impressive state," almost like a buried time capsule, he said.

Our world could be interpenetrated by other dimensions or realms that are most often undetectable, Hancock stated, adding that this could account for the UFO phenomenon which seems quite elusive. These other dimensions could also include the spirit world. He cited how cave paintings dating back thousands of years depicted spirit or supernatural beings. During the medieval era people spoke about fairies, elves, and the realms they inhabited, while today alien abduction and UFO craft are reported. What we're seeing is actually one phenomena "viewed through different cultural spectacles" that originates in a parallel dimension or realm, he explained.

He also talked about his recent novel Entangled, which deals with time travel, NDEs, and the supernatural. Interestingly, in his book he featured neanderthal characters who were compassionate, and now well after he wrote the work, scientific reports have just emerged that suggest neanderthals were indeed nurturing and caring, and not the brutish thugs most people picture.

Graham wrote Fingerprints of The Gods and while this is another long interview, it’s well worth a listen.
I think this adds to the thread, bringing a lot of additional information.
Enjoy!



posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by LittleBlackEagle
my personal beliefs, they intervene to aid in keeping us healthy and do it only if they can keep it covert as to not interfere with peoples free will and lives. sometimes people remember and that's unavoidable, but it's not intentional.

they are our big brothers, trying to help us as much as possible without interfering with our free will and development. i think the only way they will make evidence of their existence concrete, is if we as a world are on the verge of sure destruction.


Would you expect your big brothers to abduct you in the middle of the night and either use their abductees for their resources (yes, human blood, body parts, plasma, DNA, bone marrow, skin, and body organs, etc.) or return them brainwashed to welcome and support their abductors?

They are not our “big brothers,” and they interfere with our free will in more ways than you wish to know.

Observe with objectivity, not with false hopes.



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