Alien Grey caught in photo ?

Originally posted by TheMammoth

Originally posted by thesearchfortruth
It is very sad that people here at ATS would actually believe this is a grey alien.

Such wishful thinking will never get anything done.

edit on 9-2-2012 by thesearchfortruth because: (no reason given)

From the research I've done, I think I've seen enough overlapping evidence to convince me of alien abductions/greys. I'm not convinced that there is an alien in that photograph, but what harm comes from entertaining the notion? It isn't impossible. And what exactly are you trying to "get done" here on ATS?

edit on 9-2-2012 by TheMammoth because: edit

It is impossible.

If we here in the UFO community keep pushing things this ridiculous, no one will ever take us seriously. We much aproach this subject with skepticism and science, not reflections in a fish tank. This is what is wrong with entertaining the insane idea that a grey alien was hanging out at the aquarium.

This looks like something artificial but tell you what, from what I've learned there are no Grey types which have such massive bodies. Whatever it is, seems to be rather solid-looking whereas greys posess fragile bodies and are more "wavy" and "pencil-like" than that. For me considering this photo as a proof of an alien being being caught on it is quite a stretch.

And even if you've posted a face-up photo of an alien in somebody's house this too might've been a fake. Ever ehard about props? I have a friend who makes airsoft masks. He bets he could make a life-size Grey prop based on abductees' drawings that would be quite indistinguishable from the supposed 'original'.

Originally posted by Jelonek
This looks like something artificial but tell you what, from what I've learned there are no Grey types which have such massive bodies. Whatever it is, seems to be rather solid-looking whereas greys posess fragile bodies and are more "wavy" and "pencil-like" than that. For me considering this photo as a proof of an alien being being caught on it is quite a stretch.

And even if you've posted a face-up photo of an alien in somebody's house this too might've been a fake. Ever ehard about props? I have a friend who makes airsoft masks. He bets he could make a life-size Grey prop based on abductees' drawings that would be quite indistinguishable from the supposed 'original'.

edit on 11-2-2012 by Jelonek because: why not?

There are 4 people that live in my house. Myself and my sister and my parents. I was lone during that time of the photo(s) taken. Have you seen a gray alien before ? I have no props in my house that are capable of creating such an image. Thanks for input.

Originally posted by thesearchfortruth

Originally posted by TheMammoth

Originally posted by thesearchfortruth
It is very sad that people here at ATS would actually believe this is a grey alien.

Such wishful thinking will never get anything done.

edit on 9-2-2012 by thesearchfortruth because: (no reason given)

From the research I've done, I think I've seen enough overlapping evidence to convince me of alien abductions/greys. I'm not convinced that there is an alien in that photograph, but what harm comes from entertaining the notion? It isn't impossible. And what exactly are you trying to "get done" here on ATS?

edit on 9-2-2012 by TheMammoth because: edit

It is impossible.

If we here in the UFO community keep pushing things this ridiculous, no one will ever take us seriously. We much aproach this subject with skepticism and science, not reflections in a fish tank. This is what is wrong with entertaining the insane idea that a grey alien was hanging out at the aquarium.

How can people take this community seriously when I've seen time and time again skeptics creating nonsence claims without any credible evidence to back them up ? This is not a reflection inside the tank it's a reflection of me holding my camera while crouched down on the side of the aquarium and whatever else you make in this picture on the right hand side is a reflection of my hallway.

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To everyone here who is saying that the faces in the original picture in question is the rock look at the new link I posted the rock in question that formed the face is the one I highlighted in yellow. The rest of the rockwork is how it was at the time of the picture was taken. I was on the right handside when I was taking the picture crouched down and further to the right is a bedroom and bathroom which is directly behind me in the original picture. Thanks.

Not into corals it's quite expensive to maintain them and my lighting system isn't up to par for some of the more light demanding corals. Well at this point I have concluded that it's either a crazy illusion or there were 3 greys for about less than a minute standing behind me at the time of the photo.

I hear ya.. 1k for lighting isn't cheap. Only reason I don't have an aquarium at the moment, I don't want to plunk down 3.5k on the thing.

As far as the picture goes, I think you are more correct with the "crazy illusion" idea. It's very easy to take pictures that have shapes that resemble heads or bodies. It's like the rock on Mars some are convinced are Egyptian statues. No.. it's just a rock. Being vaugely body shaped doesn't prove it's a statue. And this being vaguely body shaped doesn't prove it's an alien. I guess ask yourself what is more likely.. an alien was hanging out behind you while you were photographing your tank, or that you just caught a weird reflection? I'd say the latter.

reply to post by Falgore


Hmm, I haven't seen any grey alien in real life(fortunately), but I've got quite some knowledge about their build. And given the implied perspective this might've been something artificial. Look at the left side of the alleged "head", see what curvature its shape takes. Now draw a curve along that line and see how out of proportion the head is and how elongated to the left (right of the creature's head if it was facing you) it is.

Now there is not a single case in ufology where greys appear to have a head that has one size od it elongated or protruding. The head of a grey alien species is uniform in its shape of an inverted light bulb with variations like ridges but generally it's oval-shaped and symmetric.

I feel like I just got Rick rolled. It's just a rock. Smh.

Originally posted by Jelonek
reply to post by Falgore

 

Hmm, I haven't seen any grey alien in real life(fortunately), but I've got quite some knowledge about their build. And given the implied perspective this might've been something artificial. Look at the left side of the alleged "head", see what curvature its shape takes. Now draw a curve along that line and see how out of proportion the head is and how elongated to the left (right of the creature's head if it was facing you) it is.

Now there is not a single case in ufology where greys appear to have a head that has one size od it elongated or protruding. The head of a grey alien species is uniform in its shape of an inverted light bulb with variations like ridges but generally it's oval-shaped and symmetric.

did you notice the other 2 faces to the left of the larger circle ? there's a face that resembles what you just stated

I can say, with 99% probability, that this is NOT a grey species of an alien.
Something other than that, maybe. Hard to tell. And reflections generated by aquarium glass can be anything, honestly. I know we all want to get a picture of an alien, but this thing appears not to be it.

As about those faces, please direct me to where you precisely see them. That would help a lot.

Originally posted by fleabit

Not into corals it's quite expensive to maintain them and my lighting system isn't up to par for some of the more light demanding corals. Well at this point I have concluded that it's either a crazy illusion or there were 3 greys for about less than a minute standing behind me at the time of the photo.

I hear ya.. 1k for lighting isn't cheap. Only reason I don't have an aquarium at the moment, I don't want to plunk down 3.5k on the thing.

As far as the picture goes, I think you are more correct with the "crazy illusion" idea. It's very easy to take pictures that have shapes that resemble heads or bodies. It's like the rock on Mars some are convinced are Egyptian statues. No.. it's just a rock. Being vaugely body shaped doesn't prove it's a statue. And this being vaguely body shaped doesn't prove it's an alien. I guess ask yourself what is more likely.. an alien was hanging out behind you while you were photographing your tank, or that you just caught a weird reflection? I'd say the latter.

look at the link i recently posted and look at the rocks tell me how any of those rocks can produce the 3 faces in the photo in question here ? I am not doubting you it could very well be an illusion

I've seen the photo of the alleged face on mars and such and I know the term perodolia or however it's spelled and there's a small posibility that's what it is here but I am assuring you that this reflection is from the outside of the tank not the inside. I have an open mind at this point have crouched down in position where I've taken the photo a few times and I can conclude for myself at least that this reflection was on the outside.

Originally posted by Jelonek
I can say, with 99% probability, that this is NOT a grey species of an alien.
Something other than that, maybe. Hard to tell. And reflections generated by aquarium glass can be anything, honestly. I know we all want to get a picture of an alien, but this thing appears not to be it.

As about those faces, please direct me to where you precisely see them. That would help a lot.

edit on 11-2-2012 by Jelonek because: I want more popcorn!

It took me a bit longer to realize it and about 4-5 other people have seen these faces as well. Looking at the smaller yellow circle I highlighted in the 2nd photo in my original posting where you see the red arrow ending you can make out 2 oval eyes of a face and a partial hand.

This thing has to be extremely tiny compared to the reflection of your camera. And it's really VERY hard to tell that isn't something else. Does your camera have a strap on a right side of it?

Originally posted by Jelonek
This thing has to be extremely tiny compared to the reflection of your camera. And it's really VERY hard to tell that isn't something else. Does your camera have a strap on a right side of it?

strap wasn't on the camera I do not ever use it as I have a official case from Olympus that I carry it in

I figured that since I was crouched and I am roughly about 5 feet 10 inches tall and the tank itself is about 5 feet tall with the stand looking at the reflection if it really is what I assume here the being was crouched as well possibly or it's roughly around 4 feet tall maybe less

The camera you see in the reflection here was about a few inches away from the tank itself

there is a 4-5 foot clearance between me and the bathroom which is directly behind me and for all intents I will assume if there was being(s) there they were in relation to the size of the camera and the reflection about 2-3 feet away

I'd like to thank anyone that's taking me more seriously than some of the people that posted in this thread I was and am baffled by the photo still and trying to explore possible scenarios that can replicate the image and thank you in helping me explore some of those scenarios.

Interesting.

If you look closely, you can see the reflection of the camera in the fish-tank glass, particularly the large lens and top of the camera as a bright line, also you can make out parts of the photographer.

Taken the size of the lens section that is reflected it is logical to assume the "grey" is actually an optical illusion and a part of the camera, or something in the distance, or more likely the hand of the person taking the photo.

To me, it looks very much like a person’s hand in the reflection, where the "head" of the alien is actually a thumb (or the knuckle of the pointer or middle finger, depending on the orientation of the hand), and the "body" is a flattish edge of the hand, while it is holding the camera.

In this image you can imagine how the hands may have been holding the camera.
Hands holding camera

Conclusion… a hand in the reflection.

Cheers

Originally posted by puzzlesphere
Interesting.

If you look closely, you can see the reflection of the camera in the fish-tank glass, particularly the large lens and top of the camera as a bright line, also you can make out parts of the photographer.

Taken the size of the lens section that is reflected it is logical to assume the "grey" is actually an optical illusion and a part of the camera, or something in the distance, or more likely the hand of the person taking the photo.

To me, it looks very much like a person’s hand in the reflection, where the "head" of the alien is actually a thumb (or the knuckle of the pointer or middle finger, depending on the orientation of the hand), and the "body" is a flattish edge of the hand, while it is holding the camera.

In this image you can imagine how the hands may have been holding the camera.
Hands holding camera

Conclusion… a hand in the reflection.

Cheers

edit on 11-2-2012 by puzzlesphere because: (no reason given)

The camera isn't that large and you can clearly see where it ends towards the right on the reflection it creats off the glass. There is no way my hand is that big and far apart I was holding the camera the same way as my left in the reflection and I was crouched down. Let's just say for a moment you are right about the far right image is a mere illusion how do you explain the face that I encircled to the left of it ? I came to a interesting conclusion myself and that is whatever this was if it's not an illusion was standing outside of my sister's room staring at me about 2 feet away. I don't know though. Thanks for input.

Forgot to add that the way I was holding my camera was I had 2 fingers from each hand holding it on both sides while the rest of my fingers laid downwards.

reply to post by Falgore


Hi, I made a quick image overlay to show the comparative sizes. It's not the same camera and the hands are in a slightly different position than what you describe, but it fits pretty well, and it seems to me to be what it is.


I'd say the other face is another part of the reflection that is indistinct, so is appearing to be something else.

It may be something strange... who knows... but the hands/camera/reflection idea seems pretty logical based on what we can see.

Thanks for posting!
Cheers

Originally posted by puzzlesphere
reply to post by Falgore

 

Hi, I made a quick image overlay to show the comparative sizes. It's not the same camera and the hands are in a slightly different position than what you describe, but it fits pretty well, and it seems to me to be what it is.

I'd say the other face is another part of the reflection that is indistinct, so is appearing to be something else.

It may be something strange... who knows... but the hands/camera/reflection idea seems pretty logical based on what we can see.

Thanks for posting!
Cheers

Thanks for taking the time out to analyze it. You might just be right about the right image being my fingers however how come they aren't clearly distinguishable in the photo like my left hand ? or my face not appearing ? I would also like to add that my camera does not end where you placed the right hand if you look closer you can make out the edge a bit further to the left. It's an Olympus FE-4000. Let's assume the right image for a moment was my fingers holding onto the camera how do you explain the shiny eye I couldn't replicate that again by holding my fingers near the tank and looking at the reflection.

Let's forget about the right image I encircled and focus on the one on the left. I for the life of me cannot explain that image at this point.

If you take another look closer that where you added your hands in place of mine the index finger of your right hand is not placed in alignment with the camera I was holding. Do you see that small bright spot there ? It doesn't line up with the camera that's being reflected.

really ?!

why would you post this nonsense . like a grey alien has nothing better to do than watch you take a picture of your fish.