is Georgia another Medjugorje, Garabandal, Lourdes or Fatima? What message is St Mary sending to USA

Originally posted by colbe
You've been condemning Conyers here and who knows why?

The reason why ... because there is much to condemn Conyers about.

I gave my witness, I was converted at Conyers,

Glad to hear it.

Mary appeared there.

Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe to some people. Probably NOT to Nancy Fowler.
Nothing supports that happening.

January 10, 2012
Nancy Fowler Passed Away


Dear Friends of Our Loving Mother, with sadness we announce to you that the Visionary of Conyers, Georgia, known as Nancy Fowler, passed away on Jan 10, 2012, at 11:50pm. She died of cancer. A funeral Mass was already celebrated for the repose of her soul and she has been laid to rest. She is now with God.

Nancy Fowler was born on April 11, 1948, in Cambridge, Massachusetts. At the age of 11 years, her mother passed away. Shortly after that, in the silence of her room, as she was mourning the loss of her mother, she had a profound experience with the Sacred Heart of Jesus. She also felt the closeness of the Mother of God and at that moment entrusted herself to her motherly care. Years later, she would speak of this beautiful experience to which she attributed the reason for not having ever gotten in trouble throughout her childhood. After a normal childhood, she went on to become a registered nurse, which she carried out with dedication. She was a married woman with two beautiful children.

On Feb 2, 1987, Nancy had her most profound encounter with Christ that would forever change her life. In a time of great suffering, the Lord appeared to her merciful and kind . She described the event, "He stood before me life-sized, His humanity clothed in a robe of dazzling white with long open sleeves. He bore a resemblance to the image of Divine Mercy. His piercing eyes, filled with love, compassion and forgiveness seemed to penetrate the very depths of my soul... I was enveloped in His love... No one on earth can paint the Divine image that I was privileged to see or describe the complete happiness that I experienced at that moment."

Nancy will also be remembered by many for saying "YES" to God, especially in Conyers, Georgia, USA, where for a period of 8 years from October 13, 1990 to October 13, 1998, Jesus sent His own Mother Mary to communicate heavenly messages calling all of humanity, but especially the United States, to conversion. She traveled around the country and abroad bearing witness to her central mission as Jesus revealed it to her, that is, "To Bear Witness that I am the Living Son of God." Many of her deep experiences with Christ and his Kingdom were written down.

The last three years of her life, she suffered very much and bore her terminal illness heroically. She offered all her sufferings for the conversion of sinners and for the souls in Purgatory, but what she had most at heart during this time was to pray and suffer for all Priests, both living and deceased. Although she prayed for a healing, she also prayed for God's will to be done in her life. She prepared well for death, knowing that all of us must face this reality one day.

Just a few days before she died, in my presence, she had a wonderful experience. She saw the Mother of God descend with the person of the Holy Spirit and she was filled with serenity. Her Spiritual Director administered the last sacraments to her in her room where she was dying. When the time to give up her soul was drawing close, she prayed, "Lord, I want what you want. Your will and not mine be done always." With that in mind, she expired, leaving a rich and beautiful spiritual legacy which her friends hope to continue to promote faithfully.

May this beautiful soul, Nancy, the Visionary of Conyers, who touched the lives of so many people and helped many come back to our Loving God, intercede for us that we, too, may be worthy of the promises of Christ.

Eternal rest grant unto her, O Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon her. May she rest in peace!

Written by Nancy's Spiritual Director, who was at her bedside during the last week of her life.

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by colbe
You've been condemning Conyers here and who knows why?

The reason why ... because there is much to condemn Conyers about.

I gave my witness, I was converted at Conyers,

Glad to hear it.

Mary appeared there.

Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe to some people. Probably NOT to Nancy Fowler.
Nothing supports that happening.

Vanity again, chopping up my brief post. So childish. FlyersFan, you're biased, the Bishops of Atlanta, the last three haven't "condemned" Conyers. They were/are prudent, they look at the fruits.

Heaven is silent when the world is so darkened, so little faith in these times?

Betania, Medjugorje, Garabandal and Conyers...all false according
to FlyersFan. You are not helping disbelievers, atheists, agnostics,
New Agers at ATS come to the faith.

Originally posted by colbe
Vanity again, chopping up my brief post.

Told ya' .. calling me that isn't going to work on me.
And taking someone's posts line by line to answer is accepted and a fine way to post.

you're biased,

No. I'm cautious. And there are warning flags all over Conyers.

the Bishops of Atlanta, the last three haven't "condemned" Conyers.

I never said they did. YOU however, were wrong and said that they approved it.

The question put forth by the OP was - is Georgia another Medjogorje, Garabandal, Lourdes or Fatima. My response was - another Garabandal. A false apparition. A hoax. Because I'm fully convinced that is what it is.

Betania, Medjugorje, Garabandal and Conyers...all false according to FlyersFan.

Wrong. Go back and re-read ... I said ...
BETANIA - I've been there. The bishop approves it. It's authentic, not according to me, but according to the Church. I stand with their decision.
MEDJUGORJE - I've been there. Not approved or disapproved. I believe it's authentic.
CONYERS - I've been there. Not approved or disapproved. I believe it's false.
GARABANDAL - The Church has said 'not of supernatural origin' - the 'visionaries' admit a hoax. So it's false according to the church. Not according to me .. but according to the CHURCH and I stand with their decision.

You are not helping disbelievers, atheists, agnostics, New Agers at ATS come to the faith.

By pushing false apparitions onto disbelievers I'm somehow going to help them? :shk: NO.

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by colbe
Vanity again, chopping up my brief post.

Told ya' .. calling me that isn't going to work on me.
And taking someone's posts line by line to answer is accepted and a fine way to post.

you're biased,

No. I'm cautious. And there are warning flags all over Conyers.

the Bishops of Atlanta, the last three haven't "condemned" Conyers.

I never said they did. YOU however, were wrong and said that they approved it.

The question put forth by the OP was - is Georgia another Medjogorje, Garabandal, Lourdes or Fatima. My response was - another Garabandal. A false apparition. A hoax. Because I'm fully convinced that is what it is.

Betania, Medjugorje, Garabandal and Conyers...all false according to FlyersFan.

Wrong. Go back and re-read ... I said ...
BETANIA - I've been there. The bishop approves it. It's authentic, not according to me, but according to the Church. I stand with their decision.
MEDJUGORJE - I've been there. Not approved or disapproved. I believe it's authentic.
CONYERS - I've been there. Not approved or disapproved. I believe it's false.
GARABANDAL - The Church has said 'not of supernatural origin' - the 'visionaries' admit a hoax. So it's false according to the church. Not according to me .. but according to the CHURCH and I stand with their decision.

You are not helping disbelievers, atheists, agnostics, New Agers at ATS come to the faith.

By pushing false apparitions onto disbelievers I'm somehow going to help them? :shk: NO.

Thank you for keeping my comments intact.

Digging a deeper hole FlyersFan. And difficult to believe, now you're telling all you've been to Conyers too.

I never said the "apparitions" are APPROVED yet, the events haven't
taken place that are revealed in the messages.

The parish priest and Bishop of Garabandal are at present positive
about Mary's apparition there. They await too the divine events and
approval.

Conyers, the three Bishops from the start of the apparitions
at Conyers until today are neutral.

Medjugore, has not been officially given approval by the Church but is now under the Holy See to determine.

We're in the end time. Very close to the Great Tribulation beginning, we'll see the "divine events" prophesied soon.

Originally posted by colbe
And difficult to believe, now you're telling all you've been to Conyers too..

I dont' care what you believe or don't believe.
In the 1990s we did a bunch of apparition hopping.
June 1991 - Medjugorje. July 1994 - Betania.
I don't remember when I went to Conyers. I'm going to guess around 1993.
Oh .. and Caritas in Birmingham. Cult group there really into Medjugorje messages.
We went there a few times. We lived nearby.
Got to meet a lot of the big names from the 1990s while we volunteered at EWTN.
Was at a live show when Father Gobbi was on.
Got to meet Maria Esperanzas family too. (but not her)

Been hav'n a hanker'n to go back to Medjugorje, but with my health issues it's not going to happen.

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by colbe
And difficult to believe, now you're telling all you've been to Conyers too..

I dont' care what you believe or don't believe.
In the 1990s we did a bunch of apparition hopping.
June 1991 - Medjugorje. July 1994 - Betania.
I don't remember when I went to Conyers. I'm going to guess around 1993.
Oh .. and Caritas in Birmingham. Cult group there really into Medjugorje messages.
We went there a few times. We lived nearby.
Got to meet a lot of the big names from the 1990s while we volunteered at EWTN.
Was at a live show when Father Gobbi was on.
Got to meet Maria Esperanzas family too. (but not her)

Been hav'n a hanker'n to go back to Medjugorje, but with my health issues it's not going to happen.

Hmmm...okay. Funny how you failed to mention Conyers at first in
the thread about Conyers. I am happy for you, you get around.

FlyersFan, you take the time and the money to go to all these far off apparitions (example, Medjugorje, Betania) that you condemn. Doesn't make sense. Every single one of them...not of God.

You can have the last word, blessings anyway,

Originally posted by colbe
you take the time and the money to go to all these far off apparitions (example, Medjugorje, Betania) that you condemn. Doesn't make sense.

Oh for the love of God ... ... this is getting so old ... did you even read what I posted?

Medjugorje ... 1991 ... I said I believe it's authentic.
Betania ... 1994 ... The church says it's authentic and I believe so too.

Around 1992 or 1993 I was living in Alabama so Conyers was just a 2 hour ride away .. not some far off place. I went out of curiousity one afternoon with a mini-bus full of people. Probably 8 of us. I had no opinion when I went. After being there, I decided it wasn't authentic.

Seriously .. you should actually read what is posted.
You keep saying things back to me that simply are not true.

Originally posted by colbe
Hmmm...okay. Funny how you failed to mention Conyers at first in
the thread about Conyers.

Hmmm .. okay ... WRONG. This is from my very first post on this Conyers thread ... first page ...

Originally posted by FlyersFan
I've been to both Medjugorje and Conyers. (as well as Betania).

jeeeze colbe ... did you misplace your reading glasses or something???
If you are refering to that Garbandal thread ... why would I mention it .. the subject is GARABANDAL.

Originally posted by FlyersFan

I don't remember when I went to Conyers. I'm going to guess around 1993.
Oh .. and Caritas in Birmingham. Cult group there really into Medjugorje messages.
We went there a few times. We lived nearby.

Originally posted by FlyersFan
Oh .. and yes I've been to Emmitsburg. It's right near Gettysburg which isn't far from us.
Didn't bother going to the 'apparition' there.

You say one thing and then another FlyersFan, a "cult group there really into Medjugore."

You gotta keep what you say straight. You reject Medjugorje and than
say you approve? Are you trying to shorten your list of disapproved
today?

And....

You are close, you live near both, Conyers, Georgia and Emmitsburg, Maryland?

Originally posted by colbe
You say one thing and then another

No .. I've been very exact. You, on the other hand, have not been reading carefully.

a "cult group there really into Medjugore."

yes. Caritas near Birmingham Alabama. A CULT group that is really into Medjugorje.
I didn't say Medjugorje was a cult ... I said that GROUP was a cult.

You reject Medjugorje and than say you approve?

I never rejected Medjugorje. Never ever.

You are close, you live near both, Conyers, Georgia and Emmitsburg, Maryland?

I said in the 1990s we lived in Alabama .. that was close to Conyers (2 hours away).
We now live up here in the mid-atlantic and we are close to Emmitsburg (2 1/2 hours away)

Seriously ... and You keep getting it all wrong.
Go take a nap and then come back tomorrow and re-read the threads when your head is clear.
I'll be accepting apologies from you at any time ....

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by colbe
You say one thing and then another

No .. I've been very exact. You, on the other hand, have not been reading carefully.

a "cult group there really into Medjugore."

yes. Caritas near Birmingham Alabama. A CULT group that is really into Medjugorje.
I didn't say Medjugorje was a cult ... I said that GROUP was a cult.

You reject Medjugorje and than say you approve?

I never rejected Medjugorje. Never ever.

You are close, you live near both, Conyers, Georgia and Emmitsburg, Maryland?

I said in the 1990s we lived in Alabama .. that was close to Conyers (2 hours away).
We now live up here in the mid-atlantic and we are close to Emmitsburg (2 1/2 hours away)

Seriously ...

and

You keep getting it all wrong.
Go take a nap and then come back tomorrow and re-read the threads when your head is clear.
I'll be accepting apologies from you at any time ....

"Mid-Atlantic".....that's a good one.

You are the one with the "stories" that don't add up. So like our
President about the HHS mandate, you're not going to back down and like him you have no authority to say what you do.

"Mary's apparitions" which you state are rejected by the Church. They're not.

The Great Warning is spoken of in the Divine Mercy messages to
St. Faustina and to the girls at Garabandal. Both. And to many saints before them.

The best thing would be no more disagreement. I won't comment
on your posts. And you won't comment about mine. Is that a deal?

Yes or no.



colbe

Originally posted by colbe
yes or no

No Colbe. You aren't getting off that easy. You have posted lies over and over .. falsely accused me of things and when I showed conclusively that you were wrong , you failed to apologize. (how very christian of you ) So no colbe. I will continue to post the truth as long as you are posting falsehoods. The number of apologies you owe me will continue to grow until you humble yourself and admit you were wrong.

Conyers Georgia .. false apparition. Unworthy of belief.
There is no 'yet to be approved'. That is misleading and false.
I have been to Betania, Medjugorje and Conyers - all in the early 1990s.
Your continued saying that I rejected Medjugore and Betania are LIES.

Conyers is another Garabandal. A false apparition. Easily disproven. The cultists who hang on to these false apparitions are doing exactly the opposite of what the Church says needs to be done with these false apparitions. They are working outside the magisterium and value their own ego more thant he wisdom of the Church in these matters.

When St. Bernadette saw Our Lady in Lourdes .. she was the one true seer. Hundreds of others popped up to muddy the waters. So much so that the Bishop for Lourdes didn't believe Bernadette because he thought she was just one more of the fakes. So Colbe, you are doing the devils work for him, spreading the obviously false apparitions and making people think they are all false in order to draw attention away from the true ones.

FlyersFan, I had wanted to ask you more about your Medjugorje experience, but I found in another thread where you wrote a few posts about it.

A woman I had recently talked to shared with me her trip, and she had similar things to say. Actually, she has been there a few times, so I got to enjoy many stories. One story involved how she had felt called to return there but had not one penny extra to spend on it and couldn't believe she should go again. She had totaled up the cost to the penny and knew it couldn't work. She said, "God, if you want me to go, then it's up to you to find the way for me!" Then she forgot about it. Well, she had to do a lot of extra work for her company. When the company cut her the check, her gross minus her state and fed taxes and social security, the check was for the exact amount she had totaled, to the penny.


colbe, the renewal of your faith is like what I see at the local event. Thank you for sharing how you were changed. People arrive, walk the mile, say the rosary and sing songs. I witness such faith, not just people who "want to believe" in a miracle but people who truly show a deep faith. Some want to believe that they see a "doorway to Heaven" in the sky, but the pix they show me, well, I see stuff that is the result of pointing the camera into the sunny sky at that time of day. But it is their faith, not the matter of what is or is not in a photo, that sets these people apart.

I think what the Church is getting at about enforcing extreme caution re private revelations can be found here. When prophecies and End Times talk abound even in secular tabloids/news, many people either truly believe they are given something to reveal, even though that something really isn't dogmatically true/relevant (except in their mind), or there are deliberate falsehoods and frauds.

I think the info in the link explains the RC dogma yardstick against which private revelations must be measured re prophecies.

Oh, to The angel of light, I think what message Mary would send to the world would be along the lines of what her Son wanted: Matthew 25:31-46. That message was for "all the nations."

Originally posted by colbe

The Great Warning is spoken of in the Divine Mercy messages to
St. Faustina and to the girls at Garabandal. Both. And to many saints before them.

The best thing would be no more disagreement. I won't comment
on your posts. And you won't comment about mine. Is that a deal?

Yes or no.

colbe

I'll say yes.

It's very important to recognize...Garabandal isn't approved yet
but the Great Warning spoken of at Garbandal, Our Lord describes it to St. Faustina in His messages of Divine Mercy and they are approved by the Church. The Church celebrates the feast of Divine Mercy.

The Great Warning is Scriptural and the current messages from Heaven all speak of the Great Warning. Even the Protestant prophetic.

It is the 2nd Pentecost, oh, the great mercy of God. Prepare for this awakening by daily prayer and frequent, monthly is good, repentance from the heart and confession of your sins to God. Catholics go to Confession.

love,

colbe

The Great Warning found in Scripture 1Cor 3:13 (refers to the Final Judgment too), Rev 1:7 and Rev 6:12-17.

Originally posted by desert
colbe, the renewal of your faith is like what I see at the local event. Thank you for sharing how you were changed. People arrive, walk the mile, say the rosary and sing songs. I witness such faith, not just people who "want to believe" in a miracle but people who truly show a deep faith. Some want to believe that they see a "doorway to Heaven" in the sky, but the pix they show me, well, I see stuff that is the result of pointing the camera into the sunny sky at that time of day. But it is their faith, not the matter of what is or is not in a photo, that sets these people apart.

desert,

I truly was changed. Thanks for saying the above. It's God's grace,
really, isn't it something how it works.

On the "miracle of the sun", I saw the sun spin that morning at Conyers
and I still do sometimes. It took me awhile to realize the presence of God the Holy Spirit in me since most of my adult life I was "dead" in mortal sin. I was a sometime Catholic. I felt the presence of God the Holy Spirit but didn't recognize at first. It's so hard to explain exactly, "filled with the Holy Spirit" is a way. After I returned home from Conyers and I started praying the rosary daily, I would feel the presence of Holy Spirit so strongly.

There is a grace God sends when a person is far away, their soul in
the state of "mortal" sin, it's called an "actual grace." It is a help to
turn back to God. Certainly what happened to me. Everyone, pray
to God, to Our Lord or God the Father, ask Them to send you this
grace. That's why Mary's line...pray, pray, pray. Start speaking to
God every day from your heart.

love,

colbe

Originally posted by colbe
Garabandal isn't approved yet

And it never will be. The church has condemned it. The hoaxers have admitted the hoax.

repentance from the heart and confession of your sins to God. Catholics go to Confession.

Then you'd best go to confession IMMEDIATELY and confess that you have falsely accused me of many things, and you have lied, and you are working directly against the Church on these matters.

Matthew 7:4-5 "how can you say to your brother - let me take the speck out of your eye - when there is a plank in your own? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brothers eye".

Colbe ... be a 'good catholic'. Apologize for your many transgressions against me, and then go to confession for your sins against me and your transgressions against the Church by your continued willful disobedience. You have a huge log in your eye. Stop trying to pick the specks out of others eyes. You can't see clearly enough to do it with that log of your own in your eye.

Just a theory, But I belive that the Earth has certain areas that electro-chemically alter perception. The Ley lines of the Earth permit the brain to change the reciever wavelenth of perception. Our everyday conciousness is tweaked to allow the "other side" to come in much clearer than normal.

Originally posted by TheGreatest
Any message from a Saint is a figment of someone's imagination, not a vision or prophecy. Majority of 'Catholics' directly disobey one of the 10 commandments by worshipping false deities (Saints, angels etc.) and not God.

As I understand it deities have powers of their own. Saints, angels, archangels, and the Virgin Mary's powers come from God. They are like channelers, their visions and powers do not come from them directly.

reply to post by Oannes

The Peace of God to all that belong to the light,
Hi Dear Readers,

Well, talking about authentic miracles, one apparition of the Holy Virgin Mary that is accepted as verified, not only by three churches: Catholic, Orthodox and Coptic, but also by the government authorities of Egypt is the one occured in the late 1960's and early 1970's when that country was under General Nasser Regime fighting the six days war and the Yon kippur one.

More than 500000 witnesses watched along two years what is considered one of the most important series of Marian apparitions mysteries of the modern times happened in an open sky scenario.

Please check:

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Now, more recently there are two cases that are resisting any examination and seems to be really very authentic, they are in way to be also publically accepted, are the one occured in Giza, Egypt in 2009:

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and the one occured in Harissa, Lebanon:

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About the discussion of which places in the Americas Jesus or the Virgin Mary actually have appeared, let me mention two trully sancturies of the Catholic faith certified by the Holy see:

The lord of Miracles, a dark Christ that apeared in the shore of the Guadalajara river on XVI century exactly in front of the city of Buga, in western Columbia.

The image is appearantly wood, but scientific tests have shown that is actually made of mixture of sand, mood and plants from the river.

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The list of miracles that this Christ has done along five centuries is incredible big, even surpassing the number of cures of illnesses that are attributed to the Lady of Guadalupe in Mexico and reaching the levels of Lourdes in France.

The other absolutely authentic apparition sanctuary of the Catholic faith in the Americas, is the one of the Lady of Guadalupe, located in the hill of Tepeyac in the surroundings of Mexico city, where St Mary decided to appear also in the XVI century to a common native american, called by his spanish name Juan Diego, and reveal to him that God wanted to convert the entire hemisphere into the trully faith and protect the aborigins of the abuses of the spaniard conquerors.

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This virgin appeared miracously stamped in the cloth of the aborigin Juan Diego, aster he opened it to leave fall the roses he collected as a gift for the Bishop of Mexico city. A scientific test practised by experts of NASA on the fabric shown that indeed, behind many restorations done by artists, there is an original image printed that is not the result of human work.

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The Cloth of Guadalupe is the only one tested in this way apart of the Shroud of Turin, and both were declared authentic by the Holy see. The name Guadalupe is a spanish adaptation of the Aztec one that was originally Coatlelolpe.

Curiously there is some common factor in between the two images exhibited in the major sanctuaries of Buga and Tepeyac, the two images of the Christ and the Virgin are dark skinned ones, possibly designed by god in that way to facilitate the acceptance of the the Christian faith by the aborigins of the Americas.

It is also interesting to mention that in various places of latin America there have been solar miracles, like the ones occured in Fatima Portugal and Medjugorje, since 1990's, this have happened in Argentina, Costarica, in Chile and in Columbia,

Please check this:

Costarica :

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Colombia:

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Argentina:

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Chile:

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Thanks for your attention,

your friend,

The Angel of Lightness