Ron Paul campaign Press Release: Ron Paul WINNING the Battle for Delegates.

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by eLPresidente

 

At this point, I am actually hoping that Ron Paul is gaming the delegate system.

Why you ask??? Well nothing will disenfranchise GOP voters more than having a candidate get nominated by gaming the process. When the majority of people have not voted for him, but he games the delegate selection to get the nomination...people will hold that against him.

I know Ron Paul supporters think they don't need the GOP base to win the general election...but I think they are sadly mistaken. Ron Paul supporters think they will draw a huge crossover from the Democrats...but the polls and the primaries/caucuses so far have not shown that.

So you go Ron Paul...game the system...and fracture the GOP more than it already is. I fully support this strategy by Ron Paul.

He is not "gaming the process". Winning delegates IS the process. If it was about winning the popular vote, there would be no such thing as delegates in the nomination process.

In 2008, I went to the Georgia Republican Convention as a delegate for Ron Paul, where national delegates were elected, as well as platform amendments were voted on. To an extent, I believe you are right in the sense that the establishment, or GOP base, can and will totally railroad certain amendments thru, and completely ignore anyone they perceive as "outsiders". In 2008, the outsiders were the Ron Paul people. Not to say there weren't some long time GOPers that weren't sympathetic to parts of our/his message, but definitely the higher up you went, from county, to district, to state, the more political and hard-line it got.

But, fast forward to 2012. As much as he is still marginalized by the media (read: corporatists), big parts of Paul's platform have grown significantly in popularity among a large element, if not the majority, of the GOP just since 4 years ago. So, to imply that the GOP base wouldn't rally behind Paul just because he didn't win the popular vote is to be misinfomed. In 2008, it may have been easy to ignore the relatively small number of Ron Paul delegates, but the chair simply CANNOT ignore or dismiss ANY candidate that has the majority of the delegates in the end.

As always, within a few posts, the same charachters always show up in any thread even mentioning Ron Paul.
You guys really aren't getting paid enough.
You're always so fast.
I can't imagine how you always respond to a thread within the first few posts.
It's like you have a Ron Paul thread alert automatically emailed to you.


Anyway,
Good for Ron Paul and good for America.
This is only going to get more and more interesting and these political trolls jobs are going to get harder and harder as the months go by.

I'd loved to see the Ron Paul detractor's create a constructive thread to give us a reason to vote for someone else like Romney, Gingrich, or Santorum.

Please, I'd love to learn why I should support any of them over Ron Paul, and don't tell me "Well they're all bad so I'm not voting" or "Vote Obama" or "Ron Pauls views are X", no, I want to know why so many detractor's value the other three candidates and what those candidates have done so far to make them favorable.

Originally posted by eLPresidente
reply to post by FraggleRock

 

They're just mad the Ron Paul campaign has a strategy to win the GOP nomination and is following through with that strategy successfully in an organized manner.

Ron Paul has the highest chance of beating Obama and that is why the Obama supporters will come out and bash all day at every millimeter that Ron Paul gains in this election.

The flak from Obama supporters actually reinforces Ron Paul AS the GOP threat to the president.

reply to post by Cynicaleye

Highest chance? You should be a stand-up comedian. He hasn't won a single primary yet. Laughable.

If it's so laughable why the hell are you here?

I mean if it is that silly what are you doing wasting your time with us then. Is it out of concern four our feelings.

reply to post by eLPresidente


bwhahahahahahaha... ahh the self-delusion of the Paul camp continues.

Again I say this, I will happily bet anyone on ATS any amount of money that Paul will not be the nominee.

Any amount.

It's just pathetic this whole delusion they're perpetrating, getting people riled up pretending they have a chance.

There is no version of the math that gives them a win and the GOP would simply shut him out if need be.

(Plus his ideas are dangerous, but hey, it doesn't matter, he hasn't got a shot in hell)

reply to post by Southern Guardian


you completely misread, misunderstood and ignored the facts he stated and the point behind it.
He DID NOT refer to this primary but the last primary.
I am from Clark County and can assure you he is 100% correct.
Last cycle we were shown the rules as they were unethical and if not criminal, it should be.
They taught us the rules last cycle here in Nevada and this time around we know the rules, adhere to them and will use them to push the republican frontrunner from obscurity in the msm manipulated polls to the forfront as the true republican frontrunner and in the end the independants and disenfranchised democrats that are offended by Obama's bait and switch to further Bush's agenda will possibly send Dr. Paul to the White House.
We are headed for a brokere'd convention and quite possibly a Jeb Bush run. That would be GWB's 4'th consecutive term in office.
I will take a Ron Paul presidency over the GHWB continuation any day of the week.
Papa Bush just might lose this election due to passionate people that have learned from their dirty tricks and outright fraud and planned well in advance how to "game" the system that was meant to disenfranchise them in the past.
In my own life I always chuckled at someone who came at me in business relations attempting to skew the truth to get something over on me.
I simply thatnked them for telling me the rules they play by and used it against them as they were allowed to win small battles but I wanted to win the war.
When it comes to unscrupulous people that use unsprupulous methods to attempt to skew the truth I always saw that as a huge weakness as they themselves had no sure footing, thinking it was a game of small battles.
They seem to get complacent, thinking they were smarter than others and can just manipulate things short term. But because of this they could never look past today to plan for tomorrow, thinking they were smarter.

But the game is about delegates and to be a Paul supporter and possible delegate you are actually TRAINED about the system and what is expected from you for the long range goal of getting him elected.

The media play us and the repuglicans play us but they cannot beat out passion.
This is something they simply do not understand. I am looking forward and wondering what is going to happen in a brokered convention where they attempt to install Jeb Bush by the repuglican leadership as a result of the huge support Ron Paul has when all is exposed at the convention.

This time around we will see why all those signs, buttons and t-shirts that are for the candidate they support seem to be only Ron Paul. There are no Gingrich signs in front yards, no Romney t-shirts and no Santorum buttons out there at all it seems.
Just passionate Ron Paul supporters that are tired of the bait and switch candidates forced upon us.

reply to post by manna2


As much as some in the GOP Establishment would love it, there will be NO Brokered convention.

And Paul will not get the nomination.

I just made a little poll about this here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

All Paul supporters PLEASE PLEASE go and vote!

Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by manna2

 

As much as some in the GOP Establishment would love it, there will be NO Brokered convention.

And Paul will not get the nomination.

I just made a little poll about this here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

All Paul supporters PLEASE PLEASE go and vote!

thank you for the headsup.
I have no intention of opening your thread.

reply to post by manna2


Awesome... thanks for YOUR heads-up!

This might help,, with the higher ups,,,

Actually if u wish they the " Political Movement " could also be called the

"DE-REGULATORS"


ie:
" In 1906 the US government ordered the dissolution of Rockefeller’s Standard Oil Trust, charging that Standard violated the new Sherman Anti-Trust Act. On May 15, 1911 the US Supreme Court declared, “Seven men and a corporate machine have conspired against their fellow citizens. For the safety of the Republic we now decree that this dangerous conspiracy must be ended by November 15th”.
----------------------------------------------------------
But the breakup of Standard Oil along state lines only served to increase the wealth of the Rockefeller family, who retained 25% interest in each new company. Soon the new companies began to reintegrate.
---------------------------------

the point being,,

" In 1906 the US government ordered the dissolution of Rockefeller’s Standard Oil Trust, charging that Standard violated the new Sherman Anti-Trust Act. On May 15, 1911 the US Supreme Court declared, “Seven men and a corporate machine have conspired against their fellow citizens. For the safety of the Republic we now decree that this dangerous conspiracy must be ended by November 15th”.



"US Supreme Court declared,
“Seven men and a corporate machine
have conspired against their fellow citizens"


"Sherman Anti-Trust Act" ,,would still apply today?


dont know,,not an American.
Me.

reply to post by BobAthome


Probably not as Paul is against against all anti-trust/anti-monopoly legislation.

Originally posted by eLPresidente
take a look at what has occurred in Colorado:

In one precinct in Larimer County, the straw poll vote was 23 for Santorum, 13 for Paul, 5 for Romney, 2 for Gingrich. There were 13 delegate slots, and Ron Paul got ALL 13.

In a precinct in Delta County the vote was 22 for Santorum, 12 for Romney, 8 for Paul, 7 for Gingrich. There were 5 delegate slots, and ALL 5 went to Ron Paul.

In a Pueblo County precinct, the vote was 16 for Santorum, 11 for Romney, 3 for Gingrich and 2 for Paul. There were 2 delegate slots filled, and both were filled by Ron Paul supporters.

We are also seeing the same trends in Minnesota, Nevada, and Iowa, and in Missouri as well.

Ben Swann explains why this is happening


This is amazing, there is hope for liberty?

its clear the GOP does not want to back RP. but what if RP wins the primaries?
it will be interesting to see the party support a candidate they dont want. are they really rdy to do anything just to remove obama from office? knowing RP wont play their game once hes in?

reply to post by conar


Nice. As usual we discover Ron Paul supporters don't really care to much for democracy.

GOP strategist is willing to bet Ron Paul will be on the ticket



this day is so much better now

reply to post by OutKast Searcher


Unless Paul has popular support across the entire U.S, it would not make sense for a Democrat to cross over.

As bad as he has been, Obama is still the safer choice for a left-leaning Democrat.

reply to post by conar


I suppose Burkman has to take a break from hiring prostitutes and slandering legal immigrants sometime. I assume he's pro-Paul because Paul supports legalizing prostitution.

Very interesting how passionate some people are about letting the rest of us know how that Ron Paul is unelectable.

Interesting how much hatred and venom is focused on any one particular candidate.
Interesting that even after these people make their points, they still hammer away throughout the thread.
Interesting that it is the same list of characters in EVERY thread!!!!
Interesting that we can not even suggest the obvious without being attacked with all sorts of insults.

It would seem there are some poeple here who have a disproportionate amount of hatred and anger towards RP
and feel a disproportionate amount of duty to let us all know just how evil RP is and just how little his chances are at being elected.

.

It would almost seem as if it were.............their job.


As long as these people are going to continue the political trolling then I will be here in every thread as well, calling them out on it and doing my best to raise awareness of exactly what is going on here.
I encourage you to do the same