Leaked video of freemason-show.

reply to post by rainbowbear


There are many coed lodges in the world but I'm not certain how many, if any, are chartered under a GL. The replacement for coed masonry, at least here in the States, is the Oreder of the Eastern Star. I've never really enjoyed OES though..... The ritual is pretty much a knock off of Freemasonry, and the politics make it near unbearable to sit in the room! Try telling a Brothers wife that she's saying the ritual wrong..... you may soon find that the opposing sexes in the same lodge room can lead to some domestic issues. Not violent of course but no spouse likes being told their doing it wrong.

I'd have to check again, but offhand I believe the Order of Memphis-Misraeim(sp) is a coed fraternity.... But finding an OMM chapter is going to be difficult, as they are considered irregular.

reply to post by rainbowbear


The mixed Lodges are recognized by the Grand Orient of France but not by the United Grand Lodge of England.

In the USA, there are Le Droit Humain, George Washington Union, American Federation of Human Rights and International Masonic Order DELPHI Lodges that are Chartered by a Grand Lodge or Orient but none of them are recognized by Anglo-American Grand Lodges.

Originally posted by JoshNorton

Originally posted by McGinty
Whatever you say, Jack, you're the master race...

Says the guy with the Dr. Strangelove avatar...

Fair point

Originally posted by lacrimaererum
reply to post by VelvetSplash

 

it kinda confirms the canada location. and the product kinda makes me decide i dont think there will be anymore to this story or video.

Not remotely like any Canadian lodge of any age that I've seen (and I've seen many in each of the provinces)

Fitz

Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
reply to post by boncho

 

I'm fairly certain Masons would have some restrictions regarding who can be positioned in those seats, especially the middle seat.

Yes, there are restrictions. You have to be a man, freeborn, of mature age and under the tongue of good report. Aside from that, not so much. I'm proof positive of that.

Fitz

Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
reply to post by KSigMason

 

I am so sick of this argument "I'm a Mason I know how it really works.". Get over yourself, you're part of a club that revolves around secrecy and stupid rankings. Why would I believe anything you have to say? You've obviously been brainwashed to think exactly what they want you to think, and defend them in exactly the way they want you to defend them. All Masonic lodges are intricately interconnected, and all the leaders are closely coordinated. If you fail to even understand that much your opinion is worthless.

I see. So as a Freemason, I can speak with knowledge about the inner workings of the Knights f Columbus, can I? After all, although not a member I simply must know more about them than a member, eh? I don't know what dimension you draw your 'logic' from, but it surely isn't this one.

Fitz

Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by ChaoticOrder

Then you would be fairly wrong. Our lodge rents the lodge room itself to other fraternal and sororital groups for their ceremonies and there are no restrictions as to who may sit in any chair. The main caveat is do not leave a mess in the lodge.

And as a JW, I can attest that even that main caveat isn't adhered to.

Such a pain

Fitz

Originally posted by tpaine1809
Low level masons don't know anything. Your "religion" is based on Occult science. Real science. However you morons put man above god which is why you are wrong. It's why everyone is skeptical.

Thanks for telling me what I believe. Even I didn't know that about myself. I'm glad there's such insightful individuals around to point out my shortcomings to me

Fitz

Originally posted by KSigMason
reply to post by SubAce

 

No it's not true as every private, fraternal order is different in structure and operating procedures. In Masonry it is not so compartmentalized that we "lower levels" are unaware of some secret group of puppet masters. We are far to decentralized and democratic in nature for that to happen.

Too many non-Masons (to include anti-Masons) think that degree equals rank, and this isn't so. You might see something similar to a degree given for certain ranks like in the SRICF or RCC (not the Catholic Church), but those systems are little more complex and are a part of system of invitation-only groups in Masonry.

Secrecy isn't a bad thing.

I had a grandfather that was a high ranking Freemason

This isn't the first time I've heard this.

Why would he have to go to Scotland to receive his 33rd? Is he from there? I've known some have go to Scotland to be initiated into the Royal Order of Scotland, but you can still receive this in the States.

Oh, and for the record, they do practice sorcery. I know that for a fact.

Did you witness this in a tyled Lodge?

Skull & bones isn't occult in some sinister meaning. They are just emblems of mortality. Do you fear death?

KSigMason,

Thank you for taking the time to answer my post.

Why he went to Scotland I can't answer you, I don't know. I'm not a Mason myself, mind you, and it sounds like you are one and don't know either. So it's probably part of something you're not aware of either. We do have Scotish and Irish decent, although I don't know if that has anything to do with it.

As far as the summoning of demons, no I never was in a "tyled Lodge" so I did not see this performed inside your lodge or temple? I say this because in my grandfather's attic on the floor he had a zodiac with a star in the center. He had some fancy robe he wore too, and a manaquin there. He would have other "Mason" friends over and he did practice sorcery in that room and was very open about his practice of sorcery in that house.

Also there was all kinds of stuff going on in that mansion it was obviously haunted. The manaquin would change clothes on its own. And there was a lot more paranormal activity in that house. So I don't know really if the dabbling into sorcery these guys were doing was on their own or if it was a part of their rituals they were doing outside the knowledge of others. That's all I know.

I am not afraid of death. The skull and bones has been a part of occult rituals for thousands of years and comes actually from the Babylonian mystery religion. Actually this part of Masonry is also used in Voodoo.

Now I didn't even know about the Masons interestingly enough until my granddad started to die of Parkisons. I would spend times with him at his home while he was dying and in moments of dellurim he would speak to me about them.

After he died a large part of his private library was left to one of my brothers and I would spend nights at his house in his study reading the books he had on Freemasonry, wanting to learn more. I can tell you the Masons have a very good grasp of Biblical scripture.

What I saw though was something very striking in the front of one of the Bibles. It was a KJV with a Freemason introduction and it had a chart with the rankings etc. Then there was a note to the initiate. One of the things it said that he had to believe in was that "the soul is immortal." After I read that stipulation for becoming a Freemason I opened the very same Bible to Ezekiel 18:4 that states that the soul that sins will die. I realized that the fundamental teachings of Freemasonry were based on lies as old as the mystery religions of Babylon and incompatible with the very Bible they were printed on.

Originally posted by thegagefather
This happens at 90% of lodges.

Uh....no, it doesn't. But if you insist on trotting made-up figures from your back passage, please be so kind as to identify which GL

Originally posted by thegagefather
And the rituals that happen at the others are ancient, outdated philosophy perpetuated in the form of symbolic screen-plays.

Live people see I; no can screenplay be. Not on screen

Originally posted by thegagefather
The Masons are nothing but a shallow, secretive religion - It's symbolism, while shocking to outsiders, is actually quite tame when compared to other religions.

For example?

Originally posted by thegagefather
For example, a symbolic ritual in Christianity is the entire church devouring the flesh of their own god and washing it down with his blood.

But of course you DO realise that all Masons are not Christian, do you not?

Originally posted by thegagefather
The mysticism is masonry lies in the eyes of the beholder - And the fearful, feeble human mind is quick to attack that which it does not know.

'K. Finally found something which I could agree with you on. Heaven knows, you've demonstrated the latter sentence more times than I care to recall

Originally posted by thegagefather
The fear in masonry's rituals is the same as non-muslims fearing the fact that muslims pray several times a day, always due east.

Actually, if memory serves they pray to Mecca in which case Muslims in China or Japan would pray to the west. Feel free to correct me if my memory has failed. I won't cheat and Google it.

Originally posted by thegagefather
It isn't the fact that anyone is doing something wrong that upsets people - it's the fact that they themselves cannot relate.

A second point of possible agreement. Quel surprise!

Originally posted by thegagefather
Accept it or not - The Modern Freemasons are a relatively powerless group of men, mostly old lechers, who often participate in events such as the one the OP has found a video of.

Goodness! Such an epithet!

Originally posted by thegagefather
The power of the Masons is only the power of their individual members - Such as a governor who happens to be a mason offering other Masons money or vowing to change a law in exchange for votes.

Yeah! Like that's going to tip the electoral scales in any meaningful way. Not to mention that all Masons take a solemn oath that they're not joining for mercenary motives. Gad I'm such a buzzkill!

Originally posted by thegagefather
Shallow in nature, the fraudulant practices of the modern mason are caveman-like behaviors in the guise of a suit and bowtie.

A very nice suit and bowtie I'll have you know. Glad the depth of your perception is so......'deep'

When the most powerful individuals on a planet of billions of individuals believe in serving themselves to no end..... there is no way that can be good...

it is the idea of satan.. and individual who serves itself to no end.....

the idea of lucifer.... the brilliance of an individuals spirit/soul/intelligence.... the personal perception through human life as a a singularity.... praising the selfs genius and potential to create from the depths of the mind,, to experience and feel through the physical body the pleasures of flesh......

these elites at the top who throughout history have been working together and conspiring for world domination..... they serve themselves.... the only reason they must cooperate with the other elites is because they view them as extensions of themselves... means to receive what they all want... a separate species of man... an elite species...... they were children once.... born into those bloodlines,, raised into this mysterious world, polarized plane of existence..... the systems and laws of man, are what force the pure innocent spirits of born humans, into the corners in which they end up..... there is a time when a man may decide for himself what is truly right and wrong.....those elites are just blinded by themselves,..,. by the flesh...by man...the beast and what he can acomplish..... satan the worshiping of the flesh....the worshipping of the beast..... putting anything before, what is good, righteous, wise, or divine, what is fair and orderly......how are those things not the most cherished virtues of an eternal and loving god?

I do not think this video is legit, no offense OP.

This really is not what is in the literature.

Perhaps it could be from some sort of 'Freemasonic' oral tradition?

Originally posted by ImaFungi


When the most powerful individuals on a planet of billions of individuals believe in serving themselves to no end..... there is no way that can be good...

I agree 100%.

That said,

1. Masons are not the most powerful individuals on the planet. The number of Masons in positions of power is far eclipsed by the number of non-Masons in positions of power.
2. Masons do not believe in serving themselves to no end. Charity is one of the first lessons of Masonry.

Originally posted by SubAce
What I saw though was something very striking in the front of one of the Bibles. It was a KJV with a Freemason introduction and it had a chart with the rankings etc. Then there was a note to the initiate. One of the things it said that he had to believe in was that "the soul is immortal." After I read that stipulation for becoming a Freemason I opened the very same Bible to Ezekiel 18:4 that states that the soul that sins will die. I realized that the fundamental teachings of Freemasonry were based on lies as old as the mystery religions of Babylon and incompatible with the very Bible they were printed on.

A soul that sins will die.

I only know of One man who died without sin. I think a lot of his Dad. While I have sinned some, I still feel I have the right to believe in Life after Death. So either you have never sinned, or you are destined for hell. Tell me, what is your motivation for trying to be a good person? A man destined for hell might at least try to live it up while you are here. Spending eternity on the end of a stick at the devil's weenie roast just doesn't sound like fun.

reply to post by SubAce

Why he went to Scotland I can't answer you, I don't know. I'm not a Mason myself, mind you, and it sounds like you are one and don't know either. So it's probably part of something you're not aware of either. We do have Scotish and Irish decent, although I don't know if that has anything to do with it.

No body goes out of the country for their 33rd degree. I can't even go to Florida (random Southern state) to get my 33rd degree. It has to be within the jurisdiction you were initiated in. For me, that's limited to a few Northern states. For many others it might be Southern, Western etc. But under no circumstances would a foreign jurisdiction offer the 33rd degree. Maybe he went afterwards? A lot of Masons take trips to Scotland/England to see the Masonic history.

Actually this part of Masonry is also used in Voodoo.

Skulls and bones have been used for many reasons by many different religions, groups, societies etc. Does that make them all interconnected? No. It doesn't. Does the use of a skull mean it's "evil" .... no.. it doesn't.

Symbols cannot be inherently evil. Only meanings attached to symbols.

reply to post by Fitzgibbon

A very nice suit and bowtie I'll have you know.

Really bro .. a bowtie? Pictures or it didn't happen.

reply to post by ImaFungi


WTF are you talking about?

these elites at the top who throughout history have been working together and conspiring for world domination.

Really? Because it appears to me throughout history "elites" have done nothing but fight each other.

But honestly.. what are you trying to convey here?

Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by SubAce

 

A very nice suit and bowtie I'll have you know.

Really bro .. a bowtie? Pictures or it didn't happen.

Tux and bowtie if you care to split hairs. However, with a regular suit I'll 'fess up and admit that it's a regular tie in a Half-Windsor knot.

There! I've spilt one of my Masonic secrets.

Fitz

reply to post by Fitzgibbon


OMG are you saying that Freemasonry is ruled by the House of Windsor?? Why else would you tie your tie in such a fashion???

I'll be back later.. I'm going to make a blog post and a youtube video about this new revelation.

Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by Fitzgibbon

 

OMG are you saying that Freemasonry is ruled by the House of Windsor?? Why else would you tie your tie in such a fashion???

I...I...I........I thought you KNEW! I mean you of all people are one of the Masonic elite. I mean if you don't know that, what else don't you know?

Fitz

reply to post by Rockpuck


I was trying to convey that there are groups of individuals, which make up entities, through bloodlines, or entity like bondage's to control resources, wealth, banks, systems, minds of populations, for their own conceived desires....

they are the "elites" i was referring too.... for hundreds and hundreds of years they have not had to worry about survival as a human on a planet, they have had their hearts set on more larger goals,, power, control, creating the planet in their image, etc.

google or youtube or look on the forums of this site, for more information about the illuminati, rothschilds, Nwo. zionist jews, etc..

do you think the lust for power like that of kings and queens and hitlers has vanished over night and been replaced with purity and holiness?

Originally posted by JoshNorton

Originally posted by ImaFungi


When the most powerful individuals on a planet of billions of individuals believe in serving themselves to no end..... there is no way that can be good...

I agree 100%.

That said,

1. Masons are not the most powerful individuals on the planet. The number of Masons in positions of power is far eclipsed by the number of non-Masons in positions of power.
2. Masons do not believe in serving themselves to no end. Charity is one of the first lessons of Masonry.

im not very concerned with the individual masons in every other town of america and around the world, you are the football jocks of highschool of citizenry, pat your selves on the back for me some more, you guys love the attention, and love being perceived as mysterious,,, your answer will deny this,,, great i dont care,,,, i do care about the very real evil nature of those high in power who start wars and worship the devil,... the thing is though no matter what they win... because all they are waiting for is the population to grow up and demand everyone play fair.... that is the idea of the NWO,, they are waiting for the savage average man to gain enough intelligence to question his masters, together with his brothers, so that they can "ascend" from the domain of sheeple, into the mind and body of gods on earth....

scroll down to the illuminati in bold

books.google.com... &hl=en&sa=X&ei=PVQyT9_-DcX10gHPwNGOCA&ved=0CCQQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=skull%20and%20bones%20manifesto&f=false

www.youtube.com...


relay4thetruth.blogspot.com...

library.binarydissent.com...






they are waiting for the messiah to arise, a great wise and spiritual teacher who will reign sovereign judgement into the souls of all who dwell on earth as humans presently in civilization and society... if the messiah is effective enough with his message a large population of humanity will say,, you know what this is rediculous, we are smart, and wise, have knowledge, and science, we can make this world the perfection of ideals and dreams, wonderful for all, and the elites will have everything planned out, hey we were just waiting for you guys to realize,,, we were playing the dark force,, how can you know light and goodness, without darkness and bad..... we could not make the choice for you because god has granted yours souls with free will,,, you had to make the choice on your own,,, since you finally decided that choosing to be good, maybe better for yourself and better for all, for now and in the longest run,,, we can implement a utopian society and unveil all the magical technology we have been keeping out of your savage hands.... the kingdom of heaven will truly be placed on this earth....


but as for now, they are sitting up there laughing their asses off when men quarrel and hate each other over petty and trivial things, when soldiers with their own free will destroy innocent people and bomb countries... they are the illuminated,, the light that creates the perception of reality,, that fires the thoughts into the minds of the masses,, they are the programmers of this world,. the population does not truley have a say,, you are free to obey..