Woman Tasered in Front of Daughter After Cutting McDonalds Drive-Thru Line

Officer uses taser to remove disorderly/defiant person; internet uproar.

Officer uses physical force to remove disorderly/defiant person; internet uproar

Officer is very polite and defuses situation with a civilized conversation; "so what? It's just one officer, they're all still pigs." internet uproar.





Now that I've summarized the three main categories of Police threads that are posted on this and most forums... she got what was coming to her, some people will never agree with that. Some people have police hate so ingrained in them they can't even see when the officers are forced to act with their hands tied by mentally deficient peoples.

Act like an ass and be treated like one in return.

Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
reply to post by Imightknow

 

what lesson?
obey?

that violence is an acceptable solution to problems?

edit on 6-2-2012 by DerepentLEstranger because: (no reason given)

Well, in the REAL world and not the candy coated one that you live in, sometimes violence is the only answer. It's not pretty and its a shame when it comes down to it, but sometimes it has to happen. When you encounter ignorant spoiled people such as this woman sometimes taking them down a notch or two is the only real solution.

Somehow I don't think that the cops were about to discuss it over tea with her anyway. She made her decision to act like a child, she got "spanked" like a disobedient child should.

reply to post by eNumbra



i don't think such a simple classification scheme covers the following thread [one of mine]
that said i seriously doubt you've read every police thread here

ZOMG!!! got stopped by a cop just now, anomalous behavior on officers part
hmm that just might be squeezable into category 3 so let's try this one:
Gunpoint Arrest of Cop Going 120 MPH in Cop Car -- Fausto Lopez, page 1 www.abovetopsecret.com...
and
Gunpoint Arrest of Cop Going 120 MPH in Cop Car, page 1 www.abovetopsecret.com...

#4 police officer does his/her job to the approval of all
love your byline, btw, and will be stealing it at a future date

that said i don't think you're living up to it
or you'd realize that the constant assurances by LEO's on this site "that they would never turn their guns on the people are meant to cover up the fact that. slowly, but surely,they are already doing so.

reply to post by kn0wh0w


I bet that kid learned a valuable lesson that day...Don't cut in line! I'm sorry, but I have zero sympathy for this woman, who by her own actions was setting an awful example for her child.

Rev

I am as "liberal" as they come. Normally, I am against cops and their use of force.

In this case, I applaud it. Taze her. And then taze her again.

I am so sick of people acting like assholes, in line at mcdonalds, at the store, driving on the the highway. Is anyone else sick of not being able to go on green lights anymore because there are always 2-3 cars flying through the intersection late in order to "make the light"?

The amount of selfishness and lack of empathy for anyone else in our society is disgusting, and unfortunately, I think a few more people do need manners tazed back into them.

I cant type for laughing.

I am lying in bed absolutely crying with laughter.

"flopped out of the car like a fish" - line of the month for me.

No sympathy in the least from my camp.

Excessive force?

Got to get me one of those tazers...

Next person who cuts me up at a junction, I'm going all trout on their *ss!

reply to post by Imightknow


LOL

i'd say it''s you whose living in a candy coated world one where violence is the 1st and only solution to all problems

how heroic and manly of them
there are simple immobilization holds that could have gotten that women out of the car with a minimum of violence.
but Noooo, they just love torturing -COUGH- tazing women, children,and little old ladies, so a little effort is just too much for their subhuman brains to process.

also remember that the main purpose of this kind of behavior serves a dual purpose:

1- to force the victim into compliance
2- to instill terror in the witnesses

violence is only an acceptable solution as a response to violence

but hey, keep defending these low-brow thugs and their tactics.

just don't cry when it's your face that's ground into the dirt.

unless you're a LEO hiding behind an avy
in which case if you're into getting your rocks off this way
you will mess with the wrong person one day, and the tables will be turned.

What fools, in McDonald land you smother the offender with ketchup then lock them in a funny jail. I forgot the name of the McCop who was always arresting the Hamburgaler. I guess a tazer worked better than ketchup for him.

Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
reply to post by eNumbra

 

i don't think such a simple classification scheme covers the following thread [one of mine]
i seriously doubt you've read every police thread here

ZOMG!!! got stopped by a cop just now, anomalous behavior on officers part


love your byline, btw, and will be stealing it at a future date

that said i don't think you're living up to it
or you'd realize that the constant assurances by LEO's on this site "that they would never turn their guns on the people are meant to cover up the fact that. slowly, but surely,they are already doing so.

No I haven't read every cop thread here; but I've read a lot of them and participated in the long ones; and my classification system isn't really a description of the threads, it's more a description of the typical cop-hate that exists, and the inescapable fine-toothed combed their every action is sifted through.

Every time it's about tasers, I see cries of "why couldn't they just tackle them?".
Every time it's about physical force, I see cries of "why didn't they just use the taser?"

There is absolutely every reason to hold police to a higher standard than civilians but in this case, had the woman been willing to act civil, the police would have never been called. That is the inherent problem; handfuls of legitimately bad cops and some videos with little to no context have bred the opinion that police are always wrong.

I see the "assurances" on this site and quite frankly, I find it that whole last bit a touch offensive; I see every day the eroding of our rights but the problem stems from the legislature and the higher ups, not the front lines.

I understand that we all can see what our government is doing and because of that, we tend to feel that anyone defending the status quo is guilty all the same but... we can't fight a winning war against the police, we can however, fight the real problem. Ignorance at the polls, ignorance and corruption in our capitals.

Just because there is a 3 year old in the car doesnt mean the police do not have the right to taze you. This officer should be commended for his handling of the situation. Also, this women needs a psycological evaluation to see if she is fit to be a mother.

Originally posted by joyride0187
Just because there is a 3 year old in the car doesnt mean the police do not have the right to taze you. This officer should be commended for his handling of the situation. Also, this women needs a psycological evaluation to see if she is fit to be a mother.

Yep - I think I will rob a bank whilst holding a 3 year old...going by the OP's statement...then I should get away with it!

Now, where's my balaclava and sawn-off shotgun?

I remember talking to an veteran cop in my town a number of years ago. He told me that one of the biggest problems he had to deal with was domestic conflict. He said he was often able to calm things down but then younger, more belligerent officers would show up and the situations would escalate again. I'm sure things are probably worse now with the militarization of police departments. So perhaps the right cop could have solved this McDonalds incident without resorting to violence.

Having said that, if the woman refused to move or get out of her car what were they supposed to do? They were called, they had to do something and there would have been risk of injury no matter what.

reply to post by DelMarvel


I think they should have arrested her and towed her car. Maybe she was freaking out and was a threat. I wasn't there so who knows. I'm sure she will lawyer up and waste even more time instead of waiting her turn.

If you live in America, by now, you should know by now that the police will taze you whenever there is an opportunity for them to do so...that's her fault
Lesson learned hopefully: Don't cut in line, and don't argue with the police.
Her daughter will never cut in line at McDonald's again.

No matter how much I hate the pigs, if I was the one who was wrong and tried to argue about it once they showed up...believe me, I would be prepared for a tazing
So that's why I'm not gonna do something that would cause someone to call popos on me. Simple as that! Another taze for the road~

I read the whole thread and didn't see anyone mention this,
but I'm sure I saw a cop carrying the 3 year old around front of the building
and out of sight before the mom was tasered.

It's at timestop 0:11 - 0:16 at the top right of the screen.



As to tasers themselves ... yeah, so-called non lethal weapons does increase the likelyhood of their use.


David Grouchy

The video wasn't very enlightening, but the cop's voice is raised, and hers (in the clip at least) wasn't. There wasn't any evidence of congestion caused by this woman either, so as somebody else said, the staff could very easily have worked around her until she got fed up of being a nuisance.

There was no justification for tasering, regardless of whether there's a small child being present or not. The cops were all chest-beating authority, where friendly persuasion would have been more appropriate, maybe accompanied with the threat of a charge of breaching the peace, if she chose to continue being unco-operative. Anyone with a brain, and a bit of diplomacy could probably have sorted the situation out both quickly and peacefully, and anyone who thinks someone should be subjected to extreme, and potentially lethal violence because they behave inconsiderately, in such a petty matter is a fool of the highest order.

Originally posted by Imightknow

Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
reply to post by Imightknow

 

what lesson?
obey?

that violence is an acceptable solution to problems?

edit on 6-2-2012 by DerepentLEstranger because: (no reason given)

Well, in the REAL world and not the candy coated one that you live in, sometimes violence is the only answer. It's not pretty and its a shame when it comes down to it, but sometimes it has to happen. When you encounter ignorant spoiled people such as this woman sometimes taking them down a notch or two is the only real solution.

Somehow I don't think that the cops were about to discuss it over tea with her anyway. She made her decision to act like a child, she got "spanked" like a disobedient child should.

You SERIOUSLY need to read Orwell's 1984 if you think the state has ever had the right, as long as we've celebrated July 4th 1776, to regard the citizens of this country as "disobedient children." WTH is wrong with you? No, no one has the right to conduct themselves in a disorderly fashion. But you'd have to be a fool to flow power toward any notion that state should ever regard The People that way. Too much Bill O'Reilly has validated way way more malevolent self-righteousness than the Constitution can support the weight of. It's time to wake up to why that's being done. People who think like this are helping to usher in a very Nazi-America.

Originally posted by goldcrow
If you live in America, by now, you should know by now that the police will taze you whenever there is an opportunity for them to do so...that's her fault

Lesson learned hopefully: Don't cut in line, and don't argue with the police.
Her daughter will never cut in line at McDonald's again.

No matter how much I hate the pigs, if I was the one who was wrong and tried to argue about it once they showed up...believe me, I would be prepared for a tazing

So that's why I'm not gonna do something that would cause someone to call popos on me. Simple as that! Another taze for the road~

So when the time comes to say that if you live in America, the cops will throw you in a concentration camp without due process, you'll be expecting us to agree with that too?

Seriously, turn Fox News off, people. If you can't see the systematic conditioning happening, you're the biggest problem this country faces.

Daa naa naaaa naa naaaaaah.....I'm lovin it!




and to answer the OP - I agree with the resolve. To have done nothing would serve to only reward that behavior. What type of example is that for a child to witness?

But that suggests there were only 2 options available - do nothing, or taze senseless. There weren't, and neither of those were appropriate.