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Obama signs executive order freezing Iran assets in U.S.

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posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 11:44 AM
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That's a seriously ridiculous comparison.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 11:50 AM
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Its hair splitting to find that Iran did anything!!! Oh They want Nuclear Power. At face value (wink wink) so what.
Maybe the whole "Moses and the burning bush" is a sham perpetuated down through the ages. Islam knows this. Now we have an America waking up to Corp. Greed and Damned the Zionist. The roots of Zionism go back to Moses. Now Failed religion , Failed Capitalism are in the minds of the western world.

Yes one could argue that all Islam wants to do is Conquer and Convert, but why not? Hasn't the Conquer and Convert mentality been forefront to the Christian Western World. Great Britain and Ireland The America's, The American Western Frontier.
Oh OK we are now Civilized and none of this pertains....Really?
Does Waco Texas qualify?
How about Ruby Ridge?



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 11:58 AM
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Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by intelligenthoodlum33
 


That's a seriously ridiculous comparison.


Because you say so? Gotta do better than that, private oh so obvious.
edit on 6-2-2012 by intelligenthoodlum33 because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 12:08 PM
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Because you say so? Gotta do better than that, private oh so obvious.


" www.worldpoliticsreview.com...


The scandal came to light when it was revealed that the Amir Mansour Arya Investment Group, which was established in 2004 with merely $50,000 worth of capital, had managed to acquire nearly 140 forged or unregistered letters of credit worth approximately $2.8 billion from a particular branch of a semi-privatized bank. It then exchanged them at a discounted rate at other banks and used the acquired cash to buy four large privatized factories, including the National Industrial Steel Group.


It's a #ing three-ring circus over there, especially considering that stuff like this is suspected to be the norm.

To even compare that to the Federal Reserve and its nonsense is ... well - nonsense."


I, seriously, hate having to repeat myself.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 12:13 PM
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Your right...it is ridiculous. No lives where lost in the example you provided. How many lives were lost and will continue to be lost in Rothschild funded wars?



PS - I see you around, and I know you love repeating yourself.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 12:24 PM
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Your right...it is ridiculous. No lives where lost in the example you provided. How many lives were lost and will continue to be lost in Rothschild funded wars?


*yawn*

This claim is dry, and could use a little sauce.

Be forewarned, you're entering a very hyperbolic argument, here. You entered on the Federal Reserve banking procedures and are now taking the angle of funded wars. There's considerable difference between fraudulent, corrupt systems and a financed war.

So, regardless of whether or not you can back up your claim (much less whether or not it is true) - you are going to have to defend its legitimacy and relevance to your original claim.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 12:31 PM
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Wrong again. I could not care less about what you think or believe. Some people know and understand...most people choose not to accept reality. Then you have your lulz people, idiots and agents. I don't waste my time sorting them out or trying to convince others.

I'll let you get the last word to help you with your ego and/or your mission. Just know this... there are people that see through you and others like you. You won't win....because you can't win.

Have a good one.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 12:34 PM
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Kids tend to learn better when you reward them for doing the right thing, while adults tend to learn better when you punish them for doing the wrong thing. This is accepted science as far as I know.

So are you saying that we shouldn't punish Iran? Then what do we do?

Iran is building nuclear weapons and the revolutionary guard is recognized as a terrorist organization by many US experts. We know that Iran is and has been working with Hezbollah and Hamas, who have themselves worked with terrorists to attack Israel and western interests. You're saying that it's ok for nuclear weapons to be made available in these unstable regions? How do you come to that conclusion?
edit on 6-2-2012 by jonnywhite because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 12:37 PM
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Wrong again.


The claim.


I could not care less about what you think or believe.


The durka-durka.


Some people know and understand...most people choose not to accept reality.


The implication of higher understanding and claim of self-importance.


Then you have your lulz people, idiots and agents. I don't waste my time sorting them out or trying to convince others.


The claim of superiority.


I'll let you get the last word to help you with your ego and/or your mission. Just know this... there are people that see through you and others like you.


They hyperbolic ad-hominem argument that attempts to turn target into "one of them."


You won't win....because you can't win.


"I win!"

.... And this has what to do with the Federal Reserve's policies and how they compare to Iran's?

Somehow, we forgot what the discussion was about, and got off on winning and losing some kind of competition I wasn't even aware I was part of.

Not that I accept the proposition I will lose... I just don't know what conditions constitute a win... or what side I'm supposed to be on.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 12:39 PM
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Sigh, it's just another goddamned war over oil.

I long for the day for people to learn not to do this crap.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by HunkaHunka

Obama signs executive order freezing Iran assets in U.S.


www.reuters.com

"I have determined that additional sanctions are warranted, particularly in light of the deceptive practices of the Central Bank of Iran and other Iranian banks to conceal transactions of sanctioned parties, the deficiencies in Iran's anti-money laundering regime and the weaknesses in its implementation, and the continuing and unacceptable risk posed to the international financial system by Iran's activities," Obama said in a letter to Congress.
(visit the link for the full news article)

An act of war right there.

He ended iraq. now he is starting Iran.

Iraq was a turkey shoot. Iran has a full fleged army.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
Sigh, it's just another goddamned war over oil.

I long for the day for people to learn not to do this crap.

Its more than oil.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 01:56 PM
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This isn't just about oil; its about much more. Iran may have nuclear weapons so everyone has a right to be interested and a right to know if they do or don't. I use the term "may" loosely as its more than likely Iran do have something they don't want to disclose which endangers the rest of the world. You only have to look back to when the UN sent scientists, etc to check on what Iran were doing and what happened? They were shown the bits Iran wanted them to see. If this was just about oil and it was desperately needed the UK and US would have already launched some form of military action in order to stop Iran from being mind-numbingly stupid.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by ProfessorT
This isn't just about oil; its about much more. Iran may have nuclear weapons so everyone has a right to be interested and a right to know if they do or don't. I use the term "may" loosely as its more than likely Iran do have something they don't want to disclose which endangers the rest of the world. You only have to look back to when the UN sent scientists, etc to check on what Iran were doing and what happened? They were shown the bits Iran wanted them to see. If this was just about oil and it was desperately needed the UK and US would have already launched some form of military action in order to stop Iran from being mind-numbingly stupid.


If iran had nukes it dosnt matter. wouldnt be the first nation with nukes. pakistan had nukes. israel has nukes that i beleive was given to them by the usa. not sure about that that one though.

It dosnt mean the end of the world if a country has nukes. this idea that the americans have of themselves are going to stand looking heroic taking down a dictator is running down its use. Freedom is the idea set into thge mind of the soldier. money is the idea set in the corporate interest backing the battle.

so what will happen when the americans set foot on iran. they'll wipe out a few units od iran soldiers. kick ass without taking names. and when the cities are taken they will find out real soon that the people of iran liked their leader and he wasnt near the nut that the media portrayed. a good number of soldiers will lose confidence in the war



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 02:05 PM
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I wobder if the executive order has anything to do with this article I found claiming Iran bribed China into vetoing UN on Syria, and the US was disgusted, do you think its linked? conservativebyte.com...



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by ProfessorT
This isn't just about oil; its about much more. Iran may have nuclear weapons so everyone has a right to be interested and a right to know if they do or don't. I use the term "may" loosely as its more than likely Iran do have something they don't want to disclose which endangers the rest of the world. You only have to look back to when the UN sent scientists, etc to check on what Iran were doing and what happened? They were shown the bits Iran wanted them to see. If this was just about oil and it was desperately needed the UK and US would have already launched some form of military action in order to stop Iran from being mind-numbingly stupid.


What you have stated...is what I have been thinking. I think Iran (may have nuclear weapons) and/or connections with other countries...who will supply them with nuclear capabilities...regardless of what President Obama signs or does regarding Iran. I think that Iran has some serious allies...that are also against America...and they are going to help Iran.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by caladonea

Originally posted by ProfessorT
This isn't just about oil; its about much more. Iran may have nuclear weapons so everyone has a right to be interested and a right to know if they do or don't. I use the term "may" loosely as its more than likely Iran do have something they don't want to disclose which endangers the rest of the world. You only have to look back to when the UN sent scientists, etc to check on what Iran were doing and what happened? They were shown the bits Iran wanted them to see. If this was just about oil and it was desperately needed the UK and US would have already launched some form of military action in order to stop Iran from being mind-numbingly stupid.


What you have stated...is what I have been thinking. I think Iran (may have nuclear weapons) and/or connections with other countries...who will supply them with nuclear capabilities...regardless of what President Obama signs or does regarding Iran. I think that Iran has some serious allies...that are also against America...and they are going to help Iran.


Russian already said they would join iran if america attacked. If i remember china said they would join too.

China has nothing to lose while we have everything.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by BulletShogun

Originally posted by ProfessorT
This isn't just about oil; its about much more. Iran may have nuclear weapons so everyone has a right to be interested and a right to know if they do or don't. I use the term "may" loosely as its more than likely Iran do have something they don't want to disclose which endangers the rest of the world. You only have to look back to when the UN sent scientists, etc to check on what Iran were doing and what happened? They were shown the bits Iran wanted them to see. If this was just about oil and it was desperately needed the UK and US would have already launched some form of military action in order to stop Iran from being mind-numbingly stupid.


If iran had nukes it dosnt matter. wouldnt be the first nation with nukes. pakistan had nukes. israel has nukes that i beleive was given to them by the usa. not sure about that that one though.

It dosnt mean the end of the world if a country has nukes. this idea that the americans have of themselves are going to stand looking heroic taking down a dictator is running down its use. Freedom is the idea set into thge mind of the soldier. money is the idea set in the corporate interest backing the battle.

so what will happen when the americans set foot on iran. they'll wipe out a few units od iran soldiers. kick ass without taking names. and when the cities are taken they will find out real soon that the people of iran liked their leader and he wasnt near the nut that the media portrayed. a good number of soldiers will lose confidence in the war


Iran's leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad hasn't helped himself over the years. He's always been one for controversy and from what I've seen and heard gets a kick out of saying stupid things which he knows will end up with the international community threatening further action. America doesn't have to enter war with Iran, neither does the UK, we just need to find out how dangerous these weapons are and what can they do. Clearly something has been mentioned and found out which has warranted intervention from the UN. America and the UK must have intelligence officers in Iran - I'll be surprised if this isn't the case.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 02:26 PM
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One day.....

The US is going to overstep it's own ignorance and China is going to rear it's ugly head.

Just watch.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by Humint1
One day.....

The US is going to overstep it's own ignorance and China is going to rear it's ugly head.

Just watch.


So long as china dosn't invade. America will be fine no matter what the outcome.



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