Ayatollah: Kill all Jews, annihilate Israel

and finally. why not KILL THE JEWS IN IRAN...why are their schools and sinagogs still standing? why is their Jewish community still there if they are being persecuted? They wouldn't be forced to convert? or die?

Originally posted by casenately
reply to post by Xcathdra

 

No they don't say that, where did they say they endorse that site...people like you say they have ties to the government....explain those ties please...that should be fun....

WND - Ayatollah: Kill all Jews, annihilate Israel - Iran lays out legal case for genocidal attack against 'cancerous tumor'

Calling Israel a danger to Islam, the conservative website Alef, with ties to Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, said the opportunity must not be lost to remove “this corrupting material. It is a “‘jurisprudential justification” to kill all the Jews and annihilate Israel, and in that, the Islamic government of Iran must take the helm.”

The article, written by Alireza Forghani, an analyst and a strategy specialist in Khamenei’s camp, now is being run on most state-owned sites, including the Revolutionary Guards’ Fars News Agency, showing that the regime endorses this doctrine.

The website - www.farsnews.ir is another big clue its based in Iran and is an Iranian company.

The US address you guys are jumping on - belonging to - DOTREGISTRAR, LLC

What is DOTREGISTRAR, LLC?
A domain name registration service, as has been stated time and again, albeit for some reason you want to desperately hope it shows Farsnews is somehow a US entity, which its not.

WSJ - Revolutionary Guards Extend Reach to Iran's Media - Planned News Agency Fits With Move to Dominate Accounts of Events; 'They Want to Control Public Opinion'

Iran's elite Revolutionary Guard Corps, already an economic, political and military power, is quietly pushing into a new domain: the media.

By March, the Revolutionary Guards plan to launch Atlas, a news agency modeled on services such as the Associated Press and the British Broadcasting Corp., according to semiofficial Iranian news sites. The move comes as the Guards are increasing control over the conservative Fars News Agency, which has become the mouthpiece of the Iranian regime. Fars denies that it is linked to the Guards.

Managing Director - Saeid Noubari
former head of the public relations office of the Tehran Justice Department

Its registered in Iran and is part of the official media outlets authorized. Since Iran has a closed media setup (government censorship and control), there is not much else to say. A non controlled media outlet in Iran would not get away with posting the Ayatollahs calls to eradicate Israel and kill her people.


and finally - Source

Iran’s Fars News agency is among the media outlets that was mobilized by the Islamic Passdaran Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) following the tenth presidential election to support the Ahmadinejad administration and combat the green movement. In January 2008 when the former Fars president Mehdi Fazayeli, who was close to the international affairs secretary at the National Security Council Javad Vaeedi under Ali Larijani, was replaced by an unknown face, Hamidreza Moghaddamfar (who is known at the IRGC as “Hajj Hamid Naseri”), Fars workers could not imagine that the news agency would turn into the interrogators’ main outlet in 2009.


Reporters and Photographers Fired

Moghaddamfar, whose resume carries only the two titles of “media expert” and “strategic management PhD student,” dismissed more than 20 reporter, photographers and staff members soon after taking charge of Fars news agency. He replaced the dismissed staff with unknown faces from amongst student Basij propaganda activists and titled them “reporters” and “analysts.”

One of the dismissed Fars reporters, Yousef Asadi, wrote in his personal blog, “A Village Correspondent’s Blog,” about the dismissal of Fars reporters and staff members following the appointment of the new president: “After the arrival of the new manager, the editor of the political division and many other hard-working Fars reporters including myself suddenly realized that we had been fired. When speaking with the new president, I heard that he had said, ‘No one has the right to protest here, even you, who are my friend.’”

Since his dismissal, this reporter has written articles about attempts to secure a “return to work permit” from legal channels, but then a day after the presidential elections he completely stopped writing about Fars and the internal disputes in the state-affiliated news agency.

Ahmadinejad’s Victory Announcement the Night Before the Election
One night before the election, Fars news agency quoted a fabricated “public opinion” center to have predicted Ahmadinejad’s victory with more than 60 percent of the vote. The report was disconcerting to Mir-Hossein Mousavi and Mehdi Karoubi’s campaigns regarding the integrity of the election results. On the evening of June 12, the results of the same opinion poll were announced by the head of the government election body as the official final election results.

Fars news agency’s report on the night before the election is referenced in the report published by Mir-Hossein Mousavi’s Committee to Preserve Election Integrity, headed by Ali Akbar Mohtashamipour, as “an instance of the election’s fabricated nature.”

Participation in the Confessions Project

One informed source tells Rooz about the news agency’s role in confronting detained political prisoners. “Within three days after the million-people rally on June 15, Amir Hossein Mahdavi, member of the Mujahedin of Islamic Revolution’s central committee, along with Hamed Talebi and Abbas Kolahdouz, two reporters from Fars’ political desk, visited the office of ISNA news agency and held a press conference in which Amir Hossein Mahdavi criticized Mousavi and identified himself as having been “misled.” After the first confession project, which involved Amir Hossein Mahdavi, ended, he left ISNA’s office for an unknown destination along with the two reporters, who acted as his interrogators, and this evidence reveals the role of Fars agents in the confession extraction project.”

During the July sham trials, Fars reporters and photographers were the only “media representatives” allowed into the court room to interview detainees. For this reason, photographs of detained political prisoners were published for the first time by Fars news agency. The photographs were taken by unknown photographers at the news agency.

It is interesting that during the sham trials of hundreds of political activists, carried out under the direction of then Tehran’s prosecutor Saeed Mortazavi, Fars reporters and photographers were present and active everywhere, and continued to publish fabricated interviews as detainee confessions after the trials, which on two occasions were denied by families of political prisoners.

Setting the Stage for Mousavi and Karoubi’s Trial

This news agency, which is referred to by many activists as the “media headquarters of the coup,” started a new project known as “public request for trial of rebellion leaders” following the coup government’s failure in the confession project.

In this connection, this news agency reported in the last weeks that a complaint signed by 144 Majlis lawmakers was sent to the head of the judiciary. The claim was previously made by Hamidreza Rasaei, current Majlis lawmaker and one of the most radical supporters of the coup government, who currently serves as an advisor to the Fars news agency’s president.

One political activist spoke with Rooz about the news agency’s efforts to support the coup government. “Fars only carries the name of a ‘news agency’; while it has been turned into a fabrication room to produce false news and analyses against the green movement and its leaders,” he said.

Another political activist who was released from prison recently revealed that the news agency’s reports are used during interrogation. However, he asked Rooz not to publish the information he had gathered about the news agency during his detention for security reasons.

Originally posted by casenately
you are talking about speeches in 1979,,,,who is reaching for straws...If I look to what any one person from any country said in 30 years I will find ANYTHING I WANT....

he was making his own speech....not quoting....did he say, hey here is a speech from 1979 you might like?

You really need to read and stop seeing only what you want.

The Ayatollah in 1979 set the doctrine calling for wiping israel off the map and killing her people anywherein the world.

The current ayatollah calls for israel to be cut out like a cancer.

Ahmadenijad at his speeches is quoting the ayatollah (1979).

If your going to make claims about something, learn the info first. All you are doing is constantly going in a round robbin circle with yourself, which is the exact same tactic a former member used. Are you him?

reply to post by Xcathdra


you see this is pointless....just repetition...


WHAT ARE THOSE TIES YOU SPEAK OF....????

do they endorse the site.....

Do they have a direct line to leadership, like the whitehouse press??

You make your entire argument off internet content...

People could argue that the pleiadians send memos to earth through ATS,,,,, is that accurate?

reply to post by Xcathdra


funny how the term WIPE OFF MAP is not found in their language....huh

Originally posted by casenately
and finally. why not KILL THE JEWS IN IRAN...why are their schools and sinagogs still standing? why is their Jewish community still there if they are being persecuted? They wouldn't be forced to convert? or die?

Why didn't the Nazis kill the Jews in Germany and occupied lands? Just because it has not occurred yet in Iran doesnt mean it wont, especially with Ahmadenijad calling for Israel to be wiped off the map per the doctrine set byt the Ayatollah and the current Ayatollah calling for israel to be removed like a cancer.

Exactly what color is the sky in your world where you are just blatantly, desperately, ignoring the facts?

reply to post by casenately


Maybe if you spent more time reading and less time whining you would find the answer to the questions you ask.

Read, then come back.

reply to post by Xcathdra


who???

I am me thank you....are you the countless shills that have been found out before...you guys are like a cancer....I don't think you should die, just stop. Find another job.

Originally posted by casenately
reply to post by Xcathdra

 

funny how the term WIPE OFF MAP is not found in their language....huh

Yup BiB, maybe you should take that up with the IRIB / IRNA who were the ones who translated Ahmadinejad's speech.

reply to post by Xcathdra



thank you for being cordial and informative....you insult me and do not respond to my questions like I responded to yours. you just post the same content that I said I don't trust. Another source?? no

OK

just repetition...that's fine. I can do the same,.

reply to post by Xcathdra


and have admitted to misquoting him, as well as journalists worldwide, are THEY all lying...that's a big accusation, PROOF?

again I say they are not to be trusted....another source? that did not base their translation off that site?

Originally posted by casenately
reply to post by Xcathdra

 

who???

I am me thank you....are you the countless shills that have been found out before...you guys are like a cancer....I don't think you should die, just stop. Find another job.

So again when confronted with evidence, you refuse to believe it, instead you ignore it and continue your personal attacks accusing people of being shills.

So typical yet not surprising. When you decide to participate in the conversation in the thread using facts feel free to come back - Until then I think people see you for what you are and they dont need my help to reach that conclusion.

Go back and read your responses if you want proof provided by you. You latch on to an argument until its proven wrong, then you just move onto the next. An example is your attempt to argue the Farsnews is somehow a US operation because they registered the domain with a US domain company. You ignored the fact the servers are based out of Turkey and ignored the fact that Iran's media is so tightly controlled outside independent western media outlets are banned.

You then argue in circles on who said what and when, when its all been laid out to you and others numerous times.

sad

Originally posted by casenately
reply to post by Xcathdra

 

and have admitted to misquoting him, as well as journalists worldwide, are THEY all lying...that's a big accusation, PROOF?

again I say they are not to be trusted....another source? that did not base their translation off that site?

edit on 9-2-2012 by casenately because: (no reason given)

Proof has been given.. Your next step woudl be to actually read the posts and info provided. Once done, come back and join the conversation.

Until that occurs please dont bother replying. All you are doing is forcing the facts and sources provided to be buried underneath your pile of nonsense, personal attacks and accusations.

The FARSnews.ir

is listed as inactive by whois.

we know it redirects to the .com in the U.S.

don't know if that means anything.

Also, I wonder if the sanctions affect any Iranian websites with U.S. listings ?

reply to post by Xcathdra

YOU said I repeated what my HANDELER told me too.

YOU attacked me personally. I never even mentioned you, just your supposed information.

reply to post by xuenchen


Farsnews has 4 domain name redirects -
Farsnews.IR
Farsnews.Com
Farsnews.Org
Farsnews.Net

The US links are for dotnet, domain name service.
The servers are located in Turkey.

The owners / managing director is the former head of the Iranian Judicial System PIO.

Its registered with the Iranian Ministry of the Interior, which oversees all media outlets in Iran. You have 2 categories - State owned and Semi Official. Farsnews has been referred to as both, and the article I linked that others just ignore layout the IRG's involvement with Farsnews.

It is not a US owned company / not a CIA front / and is under the control of the IRG, who answer directly to the Ayatollah.


The latest -
Pattern of Intimidation Is Seen in Arrests of Iranian Journalists and Bloggers

Yup... Iran would never act in a manner that would threaten anyone who doesn't agree with them. They are willing to arrest bloggers / journalists in addition to wiping Israel off the map and killing Jews wherever they are in the world.

Why is that observation important? Because Iran just demonstrated they will quash any media reports they dont agree with. That would suggest that the Iranian government agrees with the Farsnews article and the doctrine within.

If the Iranian government didn't agree with that article, it would have been removed and the person responsible for it would be in jail if not dead.

The owners / managing director is the former head of the Iranian Judicial System PIO.

Sadeq Larijani replaced Mahmoud Hashemi Shahroudi, is this who you are refering to?


Grand Ayatollah Seyyed Mahmoud Hashemi Shahroudi (آیت الله سید محمود هاشمی شاهرودی) (Born 1948 in Najaf, Iraq[1]) is a moderate [2] Iraqi-Iranian politician and Twelver Shi'a Marja.[3][4][5] Hashemi Shahroudi was the leader of the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, which has caused objections to his serving as the head of Iran's Judiciary System upon his appointment to the post. He served as head of the Judicial System till 2009. He is currently a member of the Guardian Council.

en.wikipedia.org...

Iraq and Iran were MORTAL enemies....he is not biased, no..

reply to post by Xcathdra


I do not defend the regime, I know it will fall and will be very happy when it does.,....I also am happy when facts are treated as facts and non facts are treated as non facts.

Language can be translated and so can be proven or not to say something or not.

FACT IS HE NEVER SAID IT

Unless you can provide a SCHOLARLY translation.

I do like to learn, but I will not unlearn something based on my personal opinions.

Criticism

Mahmoud Shahroudi has received criticism from a number of Iranian scholars and lawyers. Mostafa Mohaqqeq Damad, a well known Iranian scholar and expert on Islamic law, wrote a letter of criticism in August 2009.[24][25][26]

en.wikipedia.org...

What Khatami and the reformist ulama’s discourse purported to was to limit the powers of the Supreme Leader and create a synthesis between the concept of the Islamic state and democracy

fis-iran.org...

Mostafa Mohaghegh Damad

Ayatollah Seyyed Mostafa Mohaghegh Damad is an Iranian Shia cleric, and reformist who has been called "a leading instructor" in Iran's major seminary city of Qom.[1] He gained some prominence in English-language news sources after he was reported by "reformist Web sites"[2] to have "sought to rally other clerics to oppose the use of moharebeh charges against political protesters," following the conviction and death sentence of Mohammad Amin Valian, a student who threw rocks at a 2009 election demonstration.[1]

According to his web site he received his traditional Islamic education in Arabic language and literature, Qur’an and hadith, Islamic philosophy, theology and jurisprudence at the Fayzieh School at Qom and achieved the status of Mujtahid (Ayatollah) in 1970. In addition he "pursued a modern academic education", receiving a B.A. in Islamic Philosophy (1969) and an M.A. in Islamic Jurisprudence (1980) from Tehran University. Following that he earned a Ph.D. in Law (Doctorat en Droit) at the Catholic University of Louvain-la-Neuve in Belgium in 1996. As of 2007 he was a professor in Faculty of Law at Shahid Beheshti University, Tehran, and has been a fellow member of The Iranian Academy of Science since 1988. [3] He reportedly has held such posts in Iran as Chief of the State Inspectorate Organization, head of the Department of Islamic Studies of the Academy of Sciences of Iran, head of Commission of Judicial Bill Collection of Iran, and head of Commission of Compiling Judicial Acts.[4]

At a September 2005 speech in the United States written up by an Iranian American doctor, he gave his opinions that there are no irreconcilable differences between the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and Islamic jurisprudence, that no compulsion is permissible in religion, that apostasy should be punished only if it involves undertaking actions to destabilize the social order, and that "nothing should be forced on the people by the government, not even daily prayers."[4]

so Mahmoud Hashemi Shahroudi does not represent the Iranian people who are currently trying to depose the regime...Give them time and let them win. Lets not get involved in yet another civil war in yet another country.

Originally posted by casenately
reply to post by jennybee35

 

we say at ball games KILL THE UMPIRE....are we celebrating the sporting event and disagreeing with the call he made, or do we in fact call for his life to end?

But when did our president ever stand before throngs of Americans and repeatedly yell "DEATH TO UMPIRES!!"

Stoopid argument is stoopid........ crappy argument is crappy........