Israel no match for Iran military might

reply to post by Tw0Sides


Actually wikileaks, which people swear by on this site, released classified documents that proved there were WMD's located in Iraq starting in 2003 and continued to find them up until recently when we withdrew. So no, he didn't lie but believe what you will.

Before people throw out there it was a minimal amount please point out in the 14 UN resolutions on the issue that states they could own a small amount of WMD's.

Should we bring it back on topic by documenting the number of times Iran has lied? Lets start with their "peaceful nuclear weapons program" where they state they are being transparent, except for when they build secret facilities and forget to declare them to the IAEA?

Or how they state they are in full compliance with the IAEA / NPT except for refusing inspectors access to certain sites that are part of their program and refusing to allow scientists to be interviewed.

Or how they state if the US brings an aircraft carrier back to the Gulf they would attack it then shut down the straights. Or how they state they will close the straights if sanctions are placed on their oil? Or how the last Presidential election that saw Ahmadenijad elected and the Iranian government said the vote was not rigged.

I can keep going......

The military of Iran is not a match for Israel's. A position that has been reinforced numerous times in the past when Arab countries, and in one disastrous event Soviet Forces, attacked Israel and lost.

Originally posted by sonnny1
Israel is ranked better then Iran. Brazil is ranked better then Iran..........

Deny Ignorance........

Your a Military man.
How big of a difference is being a defensive position.

reply to post by superman2012


Seriously...

For years many of the Iranian apologists have been denying their involvement until they were blue in the face. Now their faces have mud on them Iran's "Supreme Leader" just made asses out of them. And again many are saying Iran is covertly stirring the pot elsewhere and again the apologists are COMING OUT IN FORCE & denying it until they're blue in the face again

Wash
Rinse
Repeat

Nobody needs the West's Media to demonize them
Their Supreme leader is doing a great job of it himself

Originally posted by superman2012
reply to post by Xcathdra

 

With china foregoing the sanctions and India now saying they won't, I wonder who else will not fall for these sanctions for the protection (possibly) of Israel?

China and India won't be direct targets of an Iranian nuclear missile here as Israel, then the US and finally European countries will be.

All politics are local..

Originally posted by Tw0Sides

Originally posted by sonnny1
Israel is ranked better then Iran. Brazil is ranked better then Iran..........

Deny Ignorance........

Your a Military man.
How big of a difference is being a defensive position.

Not Military,actually.

But smart enough to know you dont need to send troops to attack a country........

reply to post by Xcathdra


Of course there were types of WMD in Iraq, the US sold them to Iraq.

But the fear used to try to garner Public Opinion was over nukes, Iraq had none.

Originally posted by Xcathdra
China and India won't be direct targets of an Iranian nuclear missile here as Israel, then the US and finally European countries will be.

All politics are local..

So are you saying now, that Iran has adopted the Samson Option from Israel.

Thats a new twist.

Originally posted by Tw0Sides
reply to post by Xcathdra

 

Of course there were types of WMD in Iraq, the US sold them to Iraq.

But the fear used to try to garner Public Opinion was over nukes, Iraq had none.

Except for the parts of Iraqs nuke program that was transferred to the Bekka valley in Syria before the 2003 invasion. You know the one im talking about... The one Israel bombed in Syria a few years back with absolutely no Syrian response.

What does it have to do with Iran and Israel though?

Originally posted by Xcathdra

What does it have to do with Iran and Israel though?

About as much as you and another poster brought in Lebanon I guess.

Not entirely off topic as they tie in.

Originally posted by Xcathdra

Except for the parts of Iraqs nuke program that was transferred to the Bekka valley in Syria before the 2003 invasion. You know the one im talking about... The one Israel bombed in Syria a few years back with absolutely no Syrian response.

This point you made deserves a chin wag.
Israel took out Iraqs nuke sites.
Israel took out Syrias nuke sites

Why dont they, the superior military, take out Irans.

Let the US boys sit this one out.

More Israel this and Israel that! Sounds like a broken record around here. So it seems Iran has succumb to the fact that they will be facing Israel in armed conflict? They continue to send out threats, death to every Tom, Dick, and Harry, and playing parlor games with the IAEA. That seems to be the score card at the moment?

I suppose it is getting close to fuel the jets, and let chips fall where they may? Clearly, articles like this and others I have seen shows that Iran has no inclination to cooperate with demands made by the international community. The weapons inspectors that have just arrived are wasting their time, and are pawns in Iran's dog and pony show. Just more nonsense and rubbish coming out of a nation that is speaking with a forked tongue. One day they want peace and understanding. The next day it is war and destruction. Keeping on poking that stick, and the dog is bound to bite. That is all I am going to say about this garbage.

reply to post by sonnny1


That list has Germany one rank lower than Iran.
Any bets here on who would win between the two?



www.globalfirepower.com...

reply to post by Tw0Sides


People like to constantly compare the US and Iran and which country has been more aggressive in history. So lets continue that comparison by asking how many times Arab countries have attacked Israel compared to Israel attacking them.

Israel = 0
Arab countries = many

I would say nuclear weapons are permissible when the large part of Israeli history is that of Arab countries trying to take Israel off the map. How many times has Israel tried to / state that they will wipe an arab country off the map?

Before their nuclear program they successfully fended off attacks from arab countries. After their nuclear program Israel fended off attacks from arab countries. To date Israel has not used any of their nukes. Given the opportunity, Iran would not be as responsible.

Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by sonnny1

 

That list has Germany one rank lower than Iran.
Any bets here who would win between the two?

www.globalfirepower.com...

Just curious , where does the US rank

Where does Afganistan rank, you know , the country that took the US to a draw.

Originally posted by Tw0Sides

Originally posted by Xcathdra

Except for the parts of Iraqs nuke program that was transferred to the Bekka valley in Syria before the 2003 invasion. You know the one im talking about... The one Israel bombed in Syria a few years back with absolutely no Syrian response.

This point you made deserves a chin wag.
Israel took out Iraqs nuke sites.
Israel took out Syrias nuke sites

Why dont they, the superior military, take out Irans.

Let the US boys sit this one out.

Have you not been watching the news? Israel is only going to cooperate with the US time line for so long before they act on their own. As I stated in my other post, Arab countries have tried time and again to wipe Israel off the map. If Arab countries don't want their sites attacked, then maybe they should sign peace treaties with Israel instead of making more threats to wipe them off the map?

Also the examples you gave above reinforce the fact Iran is not going to win in a military encounter with Israel. Had Arab countries had the superior military Israel would not currently exist.

History = 1
Arab superiority = 0

reply to post by Xcathdra


Are you one of the Palestine doesnt exist people.

Im thinking by your scorecard you are.,

reply to post by Tw0Sides


Yeah that's why they hide in the mountains and over in Pakistan most of the time and we control the major cities and are building schools, hospitals, roads, bridges etc etc etc .

Stand still?

That's your overzealous spin on things.

Originally posted by Xcathdra
Also the examples you gave above reinforce the fact Iran is not going to win in a military encounter with Israel. Had Arab countries had the superior military Israel would not currently exist.

History = 1
Arab superiority = 0

edit on 5-2-2012 by Xcathdra because: (no reason given)

I dont see how my examples said that, Iran will fight back, where the others did not.

Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by Tw0Sides

 

Yeah that's why they hide in the mountains and over in Pakistan most of the time and we control the major cities and are building schools, hospitals, roads, bridges etc etc etc .

Stand still?

That's your overzealous spin on things.

Taliban were in charge when it started
Taliban will be in charge again.

Dems da facts , jack

Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by sonnny1

 

That list has Germany one rank lower than Iran.
Any bets here on who would win between the two?

www.globalfirepower.com...

edit on 5-2-2012 by SLAYER69 because: (no reason given)

Germany's Merchant Marine Fleet looks really good!