9/11 'Drills' Alex Jones explosive interview with Stanley Hilton

Originally posted by radagast
I apologize if this is way off topic, but what ever happened to the "short" or "put" orders on american airlines ? I wonder if the money trail goes to the rothschilds, bush or .....?

Covered in this thread: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Investigations didn't uncover any illegal trading, it was basically a sensationalized news report echoed across most news media - what occured was a wholesale freeze of assets of known and suspected terrorist groups/supporters. The SEC and CBOE did not discover any suspcious trades, or illegal activity. "Bearish hedge funds" had bet on puts for United Airlines parent company, for example.

But please do read the info contained in the above link.

As far as I understand he's been in court since, June 2002, I believe his case is the one that got the 'Bush Knew..: headline printed in the paper. Of course no news whatsoever is being made of this case anywhere(except the japanese got a tv channel to air a one hour documentary on 9/11 conspiracies Hilton was interviewed).



The interview with Hilton really floored me when I heard it.



[edit on 17-9-2004 by slave]

Originally posted by BANGINCOLOR
"This video was already converted and posted on the CNN website on September 12, 2001"

Incorrect.

No, it's correct - the video is even in ../2001/09/12/.. on their server. You'll notice CNN tosses everything into the date folder on the day they report it - and not on the day it was supposed to have happened.

I remember vividly that the first time anyone saw the video of the first plane striking the WTC, it was in the form of the television special the french producers had agreed to make(reports say they were paid in excess of 1 million dollars).

Source for these reports please. I've searched and can't find one - but if you know of any (since you say "reports say...") there obviously must be a report or a source somewhere?

And you "vividly remember" incorrectly. It wasn't first shown on the CBS special, the clip was shown for weeks in advance of that on CNN repeatedly.

They held onto that footage and they got paid. To see it first, you had to watch the interviews with them.

Again, source please. Links... I've looked, I can't find anything credible supporting this anywhere.

But I can find stuff like this: French Culture


[edit on 17-9-2004 by CatHerder]

Originally posted by cargo

Originally posted by SMR

Originally posted by CatHerder
You almost need an english to dubya translator at times.

Like when he tries to explain Sovereignty

That is so hard to watch without cringing.

Screw the "This is your brain on drugs" commercials, they should play this to the school kids and say "This is your brain AFTER drugs." It would scare the hell out of them......

It is official, we have a tard for a President.

looks like the official website is up, here's some of the good stuff

suetheterrorists.net...

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Stanley asked that I post the following message. Mr. Hilton insists that he has inside information that bin Laden has been dead for six years, that the Saudi Royal family and members of the bin Laden family were directly involved in the 9/11 attacks, and that John Kerry is running to lose.While, I am signed on to his lawsuit as a plaintif I am not absolutely sure of all of these alligations.

There is much evidence Hilton refers to that I have not seen, so I can't speak to his allegation that bin Laden is dead.If bin Laden has been dead for six years, then there has been a six year long propaganda campaign to convince us he's alive, including reports that he met with CIA Station Chief Larry Mitchell at the American Hospital in Dubai, UAE in July of 2001 while on dialysis and reports that he received kidney treatment the day before the 9/11 attacks at a Pakistani military hospital.

Furthermore, I allege that Kerry may "win" the election and things will actually get WORSE than they have been under Bush. Stanley does not agree, and alleges that Kerry is running to lose in order to ensure Bush's re-selection.

I do however allege that some Saudi Royals and bin Ladens were probably involved along with some Pakistanis, Germans, Israelis, Dutch, British, and most importantly Americans.

Furthermore, I am suspicious that the Saudi Royal family favors a UN, US takeover of Saudi Arabia in order that foreign forces can manage the nation should Saudi Arabia plunge into a chaotic and bloody civil war and economic melt down due to the depletion of it's oil reserves, such as Ghawar, the largest oil field in the world which is allegedly 90% depleted.

Abel Ashes, plaintif 9/16/04

Insert for website:

"BUSHFRAUD--SOME SHOCKING FACTS ABOUT BUSH'S '1984' FRAUDSPEAK"

1. OSAMA BIN LADEN DIED 6 YERS AGO. HE HAS NOT BEEN "FOUND" SINCE 911 BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN DEAD---3 YEARS BEFORE 911 WAS PERPETRATED BY BUSH. HE SERVES THE ROLE OF "EMANUEL GOLDSTEIN," THE MYTHICAL OMNIPOTENT, OMNIPRESET FANTASY FIGURE IN "1984" BY ORWELL.

2. BUSH PERSONALLY ORDERED 911 WITH THE SAUDI ROYAL FAMILY AND BIN LADEN'S BROTHERS AND COUSINS--AND LET THEM OUT OF THE COUNTRY THE DAY AFTER 911 SO THEY COULD NOT BE QUESTIONED.

3. "WAR IS PEACE"--BUSH'S CONCEPT OF PERPETUAL WAR ON "TERROR" IS STRAIGHT OUT OF 1984.

4. FRAUD IS TRUTH: BUSH'S RHETORIC IS SO MUCH BASED ON FRAUD THAT ANY TRUE STATEMENT WOULD HAVE NO ROLE AND WOULD BE A FOREIGN LANGUAGE

5. KERRY=GHOST CANDIDATE. KERRY IS A STALKING HORSE FOR BUSH AND WAS HANDPICKED BY THE PRO-BUSH MEDIA AS A "DOA" GHOST CANDIDATE WHO IS A STALKING HORSE FOR BUSH---COURTESY OF SKULL AND BONES CLUB AT YALE, OF WHICH BOTH BUSH AND KERRY WERE MEMBERS.

Stanley G. Hilton 9/16/04



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There is a possible Hilton penned NY Times Op Ed pending and some possible British press coverage.
Hilton has been threatened repeatedly that the suit will be thrown out and that he faces being fraudulently disbarred if he does not drop the suit. While the threats are coming directly from Judge Pavitt and the U.S. District Court of Northern California they are believed to have originated further up the line with John Ashcroft and the U.S. Justice Department.Such threats, of coarse amount to obstruction of justice by high level judicial officials. Also, Hilton's office was recently burglarized by persons unknown.
Hilton is considering making additional filings under the Fraudulent Claims Act. It may be easier to force depositions and discovery by proving what didn't happen (the the official 9/11 story is a lie), than by proving what did (there are still missing links to be found and gaps to be closed

lets see. if what this guy says is true, then how come he is still alive?

Originally posted by slave
I just wanted to get back to the point of my intial post. That being a lawsuit for 7 billion, the lawyer claiming he has legal proof that Bush ordered 9/11

He is now claiming to have recieved threats on his life (most likely courtesy of John Ashcroft)

The common problem with conspiracy theorists is that they take "little known facts" that have absolutely nothing to do with each other then link them together to form a conclusion that has no merit. HE claims that there have been threats made on his life and conspiracy theorists fill in the blanks with statements like: "(most likely courtesy of John Ashcroft)".

If there was any legitimacy to this guy's claims don't you think LEGITIMATE news sources would be all over this? OR do you believe CNN, FOXnews, and NSNBC are part of this governmental conspiracy?

Prediction: This case will be thrown out due to lack of any credible evidence or merit.

Originally posted by slave
looks like the official website is up, here's some of the good stuff

suetheterrorists.net...

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This is NOT an "official" web site. This is nothing more than sleazy entertainment for paranoid people. It must suck living in a world where your government is out to "git ya".

Here's a challenge: Find a LEGITIMATE source of news/information (eg: CNN, FOX MSNBC, any .gov website, AP, reuters, etc) that will lend ANY merit to Mr. Hilton's claims and I might be willing to entertain an idea of legitimacy in Stanley Hilton and his lawsuit. After all, we all know lawyers NEVER lie!!!

Originally posted by slave

Hilton has been threatened repeatedly that the suit will be thrown out and that he faces being fraudulently disbarred if he does not drop the suit.

Could it be the reason for this is that his case has no merit?

Originally posted by slave

While the threats are coming directly from Judge Pavitt and the U.S. District Court of Northern California they are believed to have originated further up the line with John Ashcroft and the U.S. Justice Department.

Believed by whom? Conspiracy theorists often use nefarious phrases like "it is expected" and "it is believed" though they never follow up with a source.

Originally posted by slave

Also, Hilton's office was recently burglarized by persons unknown.

A lot of businesses get burglarized for various reasons. Again, the nefarious "unknown" is thrown into the mix. Perhaps these persons are unknown because it didn't happen.

Originally posted by slave

It may be easier to force depositions and discovery by proving what didn't happen (the the official 9/11 story is a lie), than by proving what did (there are still missing links to be found and gaps to be closed

This is interesting. What you are saying is that it may be easier to prove a negative than to prove the government was behind 911 using evidence. The whole premise of our judicial system is that it is virtually impossible to make a case against what didn't happen because if it didn't happen then there would be no evidence left behind. This is why in our society a criminal defendant is "innocent until proven guilty". Prosecuters must first have direct evidence of his actions and the defendant must then refute that evidence to win his case.

Let's assume for a moment the Government was NOT behind 911. How does it prove it wasn't if there's no evidence of something that did not happen? It is up to Mr. Hilton to come up with direct evidence that the Government WAS behind 911. Did you ever consider that maybe the courts are threatening him because he has no evidence?

Auchem's (sp) theory states that all things being equal, of two theories that oppose each other, generally, the simplest theory is true.

So which theory is more plausible:

There is a grand Government cover-up consisting of hundreds, if not thousands of personell, where everyone (who are Americans with families; children etc, and who love America) is hiding its complicity in the 911 attacks

-or-

Is Mr. Hilton and those like him getting a name for himself and earning several hundred dollars/hour representing conspiracy cases that have no merit.

What does he care if his case gets thrown out? I'm willing to bet (speculation) that he has made a lot of money because of this case.

Originally posted by CatHerder
This is one of the problems I have with this lawsuit, and the whole story.

He had seen simulated videos of this. In fact, he even made a Freudian slip a few months later at a California press conference when he said he had, quote, �seen on television the first plane attack the first tower.� And that could not be possible because there was no video. What it was was the simulated video that he had gone over. So this was a personally government ordered thing.

I saw the video of the 1st plane hitting the tower. 500 million other people watching TV saw the video of the 1st plane hitting the tower. We all watched the video, shot by the two young french guys who were staying at one of the firehalls in NY. We didn't have to wait for it to be released 2 months later. We all watched it be played on CNN not long after the attack (if memory serves it was that evening, or, at the very latest the next morning).

This video was already converted and posted on the CNN website on September 12, 2001. I think there's a lot of confusion in people's memory mostly due to the live reporting by people who were as excited (shocked, worried, etc.) as you and I were while watching it all unfold on TV. I recall so many incorrect statements and opinions throughout the whole day.

In today's political scene, and how they all play dirty pool, it wouldn't suprise me if this was something funded and initated by some liberal or democrat group. You think the Republicans and conservatives have an exclusive on this sort of crap?

Thats all true and all, but still, does it make the fact that this was all planned, along with Pearl Harbour, and every other war which the international bankers gain? No, the illuminati are stirring the pot, and they're doing a good job. Got you all confused....
Just like little sheep, which is what they think of us all.... little sheep lead to the slaughter, they laugh at us all, even trying to solve their puzzles, even if we get it right, they don't care because no ones going to believe us anyway .. because they give no credit.. they don't punish those (immediately) who figure it out.. so they use that fact to change your mind.. since you don't know if you got it right or not, you end up changing your ideas and the truth gets lost in their lies

it isn't just Bush, he didn't plan anything.. you guys are simple.... it was planned by the illuminati, they are the true beneficiaries

[edit on 18/9/04 by dnero6911]

Originally posted by dnero6911

No, the illuminati are stirring the pot, and they're doing a good job. Got you all confused....
Just like little sheep, which is what they think of us all.... little sheep lead to the slaughter, they laugh at us all, even trying to solve their puzzles, even if we get it right, they don't care because no ones going to believe us anyway

it isn't just Bush, he didn't plan anything.. you guys are simple.... it was planned by the illuminati, they are the true beneficiaries

[edit on 18/9/04 by dnero6911]

Could someone tell me who the Illuminati are? As in, who they actually are? As in some names?

I am sick of the word "they." Be specific.

Originally posted by slave

And this was a direct, covert operation ordered, personally ordered by George W. Bush. Personally ordered.

Originally posted by slave

The reason why he appeared to be uninterested and nonchalant on September 11th � when those videos showed that Andrew Card whispered in his ear the [garbled] words about this he listened to kids reading the pet goat story, is that he thought this was another rehearsal.

I think this lawyer should work on his story before he goes to court...... This was a personally ordered, covert operation by Bush yet he didn't know what day it would happen? Is he that stupid?

With lack of interest on this threat, I guess US people do not care whether 9/11 was done by Arab terrorists or US government, specifically Bush/Cheney administration.

What a joke for so called democrazy?!

Originally posted by zcheng
With lack of interest on this threat, I guess US people do not care whether 9/11 was done by Arab terrorists or US government, specifically Bush/Cheney administration.

What a joke for so called democrazy?!

There are many, many, many threads on this subject. There is no lack of interest or disregard, but the subject has been done over and over again.

Just do a search.

Originally posted by Facefirst

Originally posted by zcheng
With lack of interest on this threat, I guess US people do not care whether 9/11 was done by Arab terrorists or US government, specifically Bush/Cheney administration.

What a joke for so called democrazy?!

There are many, many, many threads on this subject. There is no lack of interest or disregard, but the subject has been done over and over again.

Just do a search.

Why then, with so much information and the claimed freedom of press, no media (TV, Newspaper) report any of the information. 9/11 is root cause of War on Terror, including Iraq war as Bush/Cheney claimed. It is of paramount importance and significance to the core interest of US people. Why media has no attention? Is Freedom of Press faked, with the reality is that whoever owns the media can present whatever their view of "reality" is suitable for their needs? Who want such kind of "Freedom of Press and Speech"?

Originally posted by zcheng

Why then, with so much information and the claimed freedom of press, no media (TV, Newspaper) report any of the information. 9/11 is root cause of War on Terror, including Iraq war as Bush/Cheney claimed. It is of paramount importance and significance to the core interest of US people. Why media has no attention? Is Freedom of Press faked, with the reality is that whoever owns the media can present whatever their view of "reality" is suitable for their needs? Who want such kind of "Freedom of Press and Speech"?

I personally do not believe that the attack was launched by the US goverment. In fact, I think it is ludicris.

Perhaps if there was some hard evidence or suspicision linking the current administration, there would be a better case to be made. I have not seen any evidence that would stand up in a court of law. (please, no alex jones looney toon links!)

As much as I do not support and don't like Bush, I never recalled Bush saying that Iraq was related to 911. (there were a lot of pundits inferring that though)

Originally posted by Facefirst

Originally posted by dnero6911

No, the illuminati are stirring the pot, and they're doing a good job. Got you all confused....
Just like little sheep, which is what they think of us all.... little sheep lead to the slaughter, they laugh at us all, even trying to solve their puzzles, even if we get it right, they don't care because no ones going to believe us anyway

it isn't just Bush, he didn't plan anything.. you guys are simple.... it was planned by the illuminati, they are the true beneficiaries

[edit on 18/9/04 by dnero6911]

Could someone tell me who the Illuminati are? As in, who they actually are? As in some names?

I am sick of the word "they." Be specific.

Its more than just who they are, they are everything... your telephone company, the people who make your TV, or Cars... Computers... Printers..
it is not something that can be measured in number or humans.. although everything will run by 1 man alone... always... 1 man runs the show... even if its a board.. the idea was thought up by a sole contributer.. and as to who that person is.. its not Bush, ... I think its the one person who cannot die.. but for that to be true .. u have to believe that you yourself cannot die

Originally posted by dnero6911

Its more than just who they are, they are everything... your telephone company, the people who make your TV, or Cars... Computers... Printers..
it is not something that can be measured in number or humans.. although everything will run by 1 man alone... always... 1 man runs the show... even if its a board.. the idea was thought up by a sole contributer.. and as to who that person is.. its not Bush, ... I think its the one person who cannot die.. but for that to be true .. u have to believe that you yourself cannot die

????

I am not sure what you mean there. One man alone? Cannot die?

Please explain.

Originally posted by Facefirst

Originally posted by dnero6911

Its more than just who they are, they are everything... your telephone company, the people who make your TV, or Cars... Computers... Printers..
it is not something that can be measured in number or humans.. although everything will run by 1 man alone... always... 1 man runs the show... even if its a board.. the idea was thought up by a sole contributer.. and as to who that person is.. its not Bush, ... I think its the one person who cannot die.. but for that to be true .. u have to believe that you yourself cannot die

??

??

I am not sure what you mean there. One man alone? Cannot die?

Please explain.

apparently we have immortality due to Jesus right..
people lived to be into their 900's in Moses' times???

Originally posted by dnero6911

Originally posted by Facefirst

Originally posted by dnero6911

Its more than just who they are, they are everything... your telephone company, the people who make your TV, or Cars... Computers... Printers..
it is not something that can be measured in number or humans.. although everything will run by 1 man alone... always... 1 man runs the show... even if its a board.. the idea was thought up by a sole contributer.. and as to who that person is.. its not Bush, ... I think its the one person who cannot die.. but for that to be true .. u have to believe that you yourself cannot die

??

??

I am not sure what you mean there. One man alone? Cannot die?

Please explain.

apparently we have immortality due to Jesus right..
people lived to be into their 900's in Moses' times???

Even do some research into what we drink ... Flouride has NO benefits.. it cripples us all, and thats just the surface