Ice Age Reaches Europe

Those are some dreadfully cold temperatures!! Here in Texas, we're cooking in the warmth. It has been a strange winter indeed. I cannot add anything scientific to this thread, I can only add my sympathy for people who aren't set up for such cold temps. I'm not familiar with celsius temps, so I did a conversion to farenheit, and minus 32 celsuis translates to 89.6 degrees F below zero!!

I hope it ends soon before more people suffer from frostbite or die of hypothermia.

reply to post by Anim8tr


WHAT? I see you failed to read a more RECENT paper that says otherwise just under that quote you quoted

here it is

More recent work by Berger and Loutre suggests that the current warm climate may last another 50,000 years

Today's comparatively warm climate has been the exception more than the rule during the last 500,000 years or more. If recent warm periods (or interglacials) are a guide, then we may soon slip into another glacial period. But Berger and Loutre argue in their Perspective that with or without human perturbations, the current warm climate may last another 50,000 years. The reason is a minimum in the eccentricity of Earth's orbit around the Sun.

reply to post by minor007

just because they are problems in the model dosent mean its wrong.

Agreed. But it doesn't mean it's right. Personally speaking I do not believe an ice age is approaching but I cannot exclude this possibility.

Originally posted by Hundroid
reply to post by minor007

 

just because they are problems in the model dosent mean its wrong.

Agreed. But it doesn't mean it's right. Personally speaking I do not believe an ice age is approaching but I cannot exclude this possibility.

Agreed. And thats why we are on this forum, so we can share opinions and expiriences. I don't get how people come on for 5 minutes, read the headline, and start ranting on the subject.

reply to post by Anim8tr


Did you read about the Arctic Ocean freshwater bulge detected? I posted the link at least two times www.bbc.co.uk...

Sounds suspicious at least...

reply to post by FissionSurplus

Those are some dreadfully cold temperatures!! Here in Texas, we're cooking in the warmth. It has been a strange winter indeed. I cannot add anything scientific to this thread, I can only add my sympathy for people who aren't set up for such cold temps. I'm not familiar with celsius temps, so I did a conversion to farenheit, and minus 32 celsuis translates to 89.6 degrees F below zero!!

I'm not sure how you did your conversion, but -40 is where celcius and farenheit are the same.
We often get those temperatures here, but not this year.

Here's a good conversion site.
www.onlineconversion.com...

-32 celcius is -25.6 farenheit.

0 celcius is 32Farenheit. You probably started with zero, instead of 32.

I'm still using metperial. A mixture of metric and imperial.
Therefore, the above conversion site gets used for lots of things.

reply to post by snowspirit


I used the following: www.wbuf.noaa.gov...

I see my mistake now, I failed to use the minus. Thanks for pointing that out. When using -32 C, it comes out to -25.6...much warmer, but still way too cold for people not used to it.

At those temperatures, the cold pushes down your fireplace/woodstove chimney, making it harder to get the fire going, and if your house has poor insulation or cracks, the cold pushes through.

In Saskatchewan, because of these extreme temperature in the winter, some of the houses move when the ground heaves (from the ice), and you get doors that are too tight one year, and gaps in them the next.

I have 2 cracks in my living room this year, last year it was above the doors down the hall.
Something to fix every year.

I even duct taped my bathroom window frame this year, I discovered my bathroom had a cold breeze when the temperature dropped to -30 for a few days last month.

Originally posted by Anim8tr

Originally posted by MysticPearl


How the hell does anything in your post equate to an ice age?

If you are able to count these facts together you might be able to see why this equates to an ice age.

- Record minus temperatures (not only in europe but also in other parts of the world -search ATS-)
- People freezing to death in relatively high numbers.
- Public transportation breaking down due to blocked and icy roads.
- Unusual harsh cold front after a relatively warm winter period.

Hmmm, looked up the definition of "Ice Age"

ice age
n.
1. A cold period marked by episodes of extensive glaciation alternating with episodes of relative warmth.
2. Ice Age The most recent glacial period, which occurred during the Pleistocene Epoch.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2009. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
ice age
n
(Earth Sciences / Geological Science) another name for glacial period
Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003
ice age
1. Any of several cold periods during which glaciers covered much of the Earth.
2. Ice Age. The most recent glacial period, which occurred during the Pleistocene Epoch and ended about 10,000 years ago. During the Pleistocene Ice Age, great sheets of ice up to two miles thick covered most of Greenland, Canada, and the northern United States as well as northern Europe and Russia.
The American Heritage® Science Dictionary Copyright © 2005 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.




Have not seen any new glaciations yet. In fact the current glacial formations seem to have reduced.

Natural tilts in earth's axis cause ice ages, says Harvard scientist - and their cycles could help predict the next one

Sou rce

-15C is not an Ice Age. People pleas don't make jokes. Four years ago we have -25c even -30C and the temperatures stays for three months in Poland, this was cold.
I remember that The snow fall in Seville in Spain fore the first time in the last 60 years. They were paralysed because city have two shovels to deal with the snow in the city This was real winter in Europe. Now we have late autumn in my opinion Good time for some walks.

reply to post by Anim8tr


This "ice age" actually has a name: it is called WINTER, and it happens quite often at this time of the year in the Northern Hemisphere.
True, it is not always very cold, but there are times when it is.
Like in 1929. Or in 1947. Or in 1952.
Or before that, but I am quoting from memory, and I don't "remember" that far back.
It is all in books and old, very old newspapers.

reply to post by AdAstra


Rescue helicopters have evacuated dozens of people from snow-blocked villages, the death toll from a severe cold spell in Eastern Europe climbed to 89 and climbing, the snow is up to five metres high.

Record low temperatures in parts of Eastern Europe pushed the death toll from Arctic conditions to at least 89 people on Wednesday, and have forced Russian gas provider Gazprom to warn over supplies to Europe. Europe had enjoyed a relatively mild winter up until last weekend, but a Siberian system swinging in from the east brought that to an abrupt halt.

In Ukraine, 43 people have died in the past five days, its emergency ministry said, as the former Soviet republic shivered through its coldest winter in six years. Overnight temperatures sank as low as minus 33 degrees Celsius and hundreds of heated tents have been put up to shelter the homeless.

European weather alert network Meteoalarm warned of "extremely dangerous" conditions in several parts of eastern Europe, including Serbia, where a fourth person was found dead overnight in the southwestern Suvobor mountains. The forecast across the Balkans is for conditions to worsen through the week. In Moscow, where daytime temperatures fell as low as minus 22C.

Bulgaria plunged to record lows just shy of minus 30C, freezing ATM cash machines Eight people in Bulgaria and 14 in neighbouring Romania have now died in the cold snap. Poland said five more people died overnight, two of them from carbon monoxide poisoning as people turned to risky heating to battle temperatures likely to remain as low at minus 26C for several more days.

Meanwhile in Slovenia, winds of up to 180 kph blew off roofs and prompted authorities to close some schools, authorities said.

I am from Slovenia and I tell you .... : This is not some ordinary Winter

A Canadian friend of mine emailed to say that parts of Alaska are having temperatures of -49 C, that is really cold, it seems the middle Europeans are just not used that kind of chill these days, although from what I have seen of European news, seems like its the poor (as usual) dying through lack of money for heating.
Waiting to see how the Brits get on, seeing as its heading their way.

Romania needs some global warming? Where is my global warming when I need it ? hehe



Shops are nearly empty in Romania (Shops, pics ) and apparently the worst is still to come in the next few days. Lots of roads closed .

reply to post by Romanian


Thank you for sharing..

Was that an ambulance stuck in the snow?

By the way, creepy pics dude. Do they think it's the end of the world?

reply to post by Hellas


apparently people got some text messages on the phone to warn them about a snow - storm to come, something worse than 1954 apparently.

Originally posted by Romanian
reply to post by Hellas

 

apparently people got some text messages on the phone to warn them about a snow - storm to come, something worse than 1954 apparently.

Oh ok. I didn't know anything about 1954. It was the worst winter in the country's history. Did a little google search and found this link. Impressive pics

www.romania-insider.com...

In Serbia is -18 and albania alot colder.

reply to post by whywhynot

Hmmm, looked up the definition of "Ice Age"

Have a look at min ice ages. Thats what lots of peeps think we are in for. Its might be linked to sun cycles. The last one was a few hundred years ago.