Empty Plane Theory

reply to post by revolutionphase1


I have never "teamed up" with anyone.

I resent the implication.

I post based on MY OWN knowledge and life experience.

I know what I know....I try to convey, to the best of my ability, for others' edification.........

reply to post by ProudBird


I was talking to other guy. Your cool Bird, you may not agree with me, but you posted that Dulles footage.

Thats more than anyone else has done on ANY of my threads.

Originally posted by revolutionphase1

Originally posted by backwherewestarted
P.S.- It's funny seeing you and blocula stroking each other in this thread.

edit on 5-2-2012 by backwherewestarted because: (no reason given)

Immature comment. Funny thing is your probably 10 + years older than me.
You and ProudBird teamed up quite often, check the thread.
& I have never stated "i am right", i simply created a theory. Its my thread, if you accuse me of being wrong, of COURSE im going to defend myself. Way too many holes in this story for it NOT to be discussed.

1) Immature? Do you mean like absolutely refusing to listen to anything that does not fit your agenda? I am just trying to get to your level...and the description fit quite well. Obfuscation.

2) I couldn't tell you about our ages, since neither of us has mentioned it and it means nothing to the discussion. Obfuscation

3) The only time I have ever come close to teaming up with anyone was when I said proudbird had thoroughly answered your question. Speaking of immature, this is simply you trying to "get me back" for my comment about you and your boy blockula. Obfuscation.

4) Of course you haven't stated "I am right" you just ignore, spin, lie and obfuscate when anything logical is presented that shoots down or strikes a major blow to your theory. Defending yourself is one thing, refusing to consider anything else but what you say is a whole different ballgame.

P.S.- Nice job deflecting attention away from the fact that you keep trying to claim that things unrelated to what you and I are discussing and I keep calling you on it.

Originally posted by revolutionphase1
reply to post by ProudBird

 

I was talking to other guy. Your cool Bird, you may not agree with me, but you posted that Dulles footage.

Thats more than anyone else has done on ANY of my threads.

You claim we are teaming up and then when he calls you on it you claim you were only talking to me. The hole you are digging keeps getting deeper and deeper.

reply to post by backwherewestarted

reply to post by revolutionphase1


Thanks....did I?

.....you posted that Dulles footage.

I don't recall, but for the benefit of logic and facts and posterity....here, once again. NOT only American 77, but also United 93.....I am having trouble finding the FULL FDR videos:


American 77 (last eleven minutes):


Please pay attention to the instruments, on the right. And to the AutoPilot status indicators, just to the right of the control wheel. There are THREE A/Ps on every Boeing 757/767.....in the NTSB depiction from the FDR, the 'green' light indicates when the respective A/P was engaged.....when the 'green' light is extinguished, the A/P is disengaged.

The final minutes of United 93:




Out there, somewhere, exist the FULL recordings, on YouTube.....finding them is difficult, depends on how to search for them.....but, they ARE out there.....

I can tell you a LOT more about how to fly those airplanes.....if you ask.....

reply to post by ProudBird


Will watch those videos right now. In the meanwhile, i just read a post by another member that i wanted your opinion on. You seem to have the most knowlege in the field.

Originally posted by Cancerwarrior
What gets me is the fact that there are no pics of the plane hitting the pentagon. Yet there were cameras in just the right place at just the right time to capture some really good images of the planes hitting the towers to be played on TV over, and over, and over again. I for one don't believe for two seconds that the Pentagon, the hub of the worlds most powerful military and certainly one of the worlds most secure and fortified buildings has only one camera out front that takes blurry, grainy photos at a lousy 3 fps rate. come on. Nevermind all the other multiple "holes" in the O.S.

Its always been a question for me too. The footage wikipedia has on their page is terrible. (5 pictures down on the right side) en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by Shadow Herder

 

Incorrect, and completely unsubstantiated and un-sourced:

Remote controlled planes.

This claim ^ ^ ^ is demonstrably false, can be proven to be false, and is absurd in any case.

Silly fool.
Many many many years before 911.


Dont listen to proud bird folks, he a source for disinformation and the promoter of ignorance. I deny you.


Did you gloss over this post?

reply to post by Shadow Herder


"Operation Aphrodite" has NOTHING to do with 9/11.


"Aphrodite" was a failure....in case you didn't pay attention/

Sad, so very sad......there is AMPLE evidence that shows the reality of "9/11".

Odd that some few (Hey, did YOU use an ad hom on ME??? Calling me a "silly fool"?? WoW!!!)

Quite a shame....but, very telling......

reply to post by revolutionphase1

In the meanwhile, i just read a post by another member that i wanted your opinion on.

I saw that....and once again, unlike the situation in New York City, where after American 11 hit the firs World Tower, just about every camera was then turned on the Towers, and thus the second flight (United 175) was fully recorded.....the Pentagon was NOT a target for photos, until and after the impact occurred.

This is not difficult to understand, I would think??

And, contrary to so many claims......the Pentagon is NOT properly "surveilled" 24/7 on all angles, by cameras.

The place is NOT that "critical"....it is a giant office building, FFS!!

Have you ever BEEN to Washington, D.C.? I have....I used to live there, for Pete's sake! I was at home on 11 September, 2001.......at my home that I owned at the time, near Lyon Park, in Arlington Virginia. (Look it up on Google Maps......I was on Garfield Street, the 300 block.....just type in "Lyon Park" into Google Maps.....my house was just one half a block away from there)....

I happen to KNOW a bit of which I speak, and type.

Do you??

Was it you who admitted to being in "fifth grade" on 11 September, 2001??

I mean.....come on!!!!

I don;t want to pull the "age card" here, but.....I have a FULL life experience to draw upon......more than you may realize.......

Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by revolutionphase1

 

Was it you who admitted to being in "fifth grade" on 11 September, 2001??

I mean.....come on!!!!

I don;t want to pull the "age card" here, but.....I have a FULL life experience to draw upon......more than you may realize.......

Wow...but you did. Thats more immature than the last guy. So me being in the 5th grade on 9/11, now puts you in a higher postion over me? Quite the human you must be. Thanks for stopping by.

Originally posted by revolutionphase1

Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by revolutionphase1

 

Was it you who admitted to being in "fifth grade" on 11 September, 2001??

I mean.....come on!!!!

I don;t want to pull the "age card" here, but.....I have a FULL life experience to draw upon......more than you may realize.......

Wow...but you did. Thats more immature than the last guy. So me being in the 5th grade on 9/11, now puts you in a higher postion over me? Quite the human you must be. Thanks for stopping by.

edit on 6-2-2012 by revolutionphase1 because: (no reason given)

You've got to admit that memory can be a bit jenky at that age. Plus, adults are all lying to you until you reach around twenty years old. I was only in 4th grade, and I learn new things about what happened on 9/11 every time I visit this forum. It's not surprising that it's easy to get sucked into the conspiracy.

I wonder if theres some way of taking "still frames" from the footage of the planes just before they hit the towers, digitally enhance them and then enlarge them,would we be able to "see people heads and faces" in the planes passenger windows or cockpit windows? Or are the windows too tinted to see through from the outside? If we did see heads and faces,they could be the heads and faces of some type of mannequins.Or they could be the heads and faces of real people helplessly trapped on remotely controlled planes?

reply to post by blocula


I doubt the resolution would be good enough to see faces at all, let alone to attempt to tell if they were mannequins.

reply to post by blocula


This reasoning is why i feel the Pentagon footage is yet to be released. The public would have a clear shot at the side of plane and all the "passengers" inside.

Originally posted by revolutionphase1
reply to post by blocula

 

This reasoning is why i feel the Pentagon footage is yet to be released. The public would have a clear shot at the side of plane and all the "passengers" inside.

And for someone to think and claim the the pentagon wasnt a viable and worthwhile place to have had multiple cameras positioned and filming all the time from multiple angles is ridiculous.Theres damning footage of what really smashed into the pentagon,but 99.999% of people will never get to see it and see the truths that hushed up and supressed footage undoubtedly reveals...

What about eye witnesses at the pentagon during the moments just before and during impact,with all those people who work there,upwards of 15,000 over 3 shifts on any given day,inside and outside the building arriving and leaving continuously and all the visitors as well,no one saw anything?

Are there witnesses who claim they saw a plane or missile approach or strike?

Surely there were and are "actors" meaning paid liars,who spoke up then and still speak up now and say that they saw a plane approaching and if so it was probably being remotely flown by secret state of the art,computer connected,forward facing cameras,secret high tech computer guidance systems,with military personnel controlling the whole sick show from some unknown remote location..

Perhaps the people who saw what really hit the pentagon,maybe a missisle,have since all died suspiciously?

Like most everyone connected with the jfk asassination in some way or another suddenly and sometimes very mysteriously died right after and shortly after he was killed...

Originally posted by revolutionphase1
reply to post by blocula

 

This reasoning is why i feel the Pentagon footage is yet to be released. The public would have a clear shot at the side of plane and all the "passengers" inside.

It's easy to pretend something exists when there's no evidence of it. Oh wait...

Ever actually looked at where the security cameras tend to point? The ground? Really?

reply to post by blocula


Check out this Pentagon witness...i think i'm picking up on some body language here.

I would like to believe this, I really would.

reply to post by revolutionphase1


Thanx for the video link...I will say what i think and feel and if my words make anyone angry and want to tear into me for saying so,then go right ahead,bring it on....While watching the interview footage,i hear what the persons telling me and i know what their words mean,but i see what their eyes are really saying,those windows upon the soul that they are say more than words and they speak loud and clear to me.From day to day i can tell a good person from a bad person just by looking into their eyes and the eyes i see are the eyes of a liar...