At a certain distance from Earth in space no living being can not survive ,even in a spaceship.

Originally posted by diamondsmith

At a certain distance from Earth no living being cannot survive.

I think it's a well kept secret

One thing that is not a well kept secret is that using a double negative turns an otherwise meaningful sentence into nonsense. Here the OP obviously meant to say:

"At a certain distance from Earth no living being can survive"

I don't think the OP is correct. The United States did land on the moon in 1969.

reply to post by diamondsmith


in a way your right, we cannot survive indefinatley in outerspace, we would need the support of a planet that is hospitable to our type of life. We can survive in space with limited resources, but we either would need those resources to be replinished or find some way to generate the resources we need indefinately. We could theroretically survive in Space permenately given the right environment, i.e. we'd need to be able to sustain ourselves autonomously in space. We would just need to build the same cycle into our habitat "ship" that allows us to survive and thrive here on earth.

This is why it's possible for a species to journey away from their homeworld to explore the Universe. Although any encounter with a "live" species from another world would have to happen based on mainly bad circumstances, such as
1. fleeing a dying world, or solar system.
2. fleeing a world or solar system because of a greater power "threat". [exile]
3. searching for resources.
4. a nomadic species that "lives" in space no longer bound to a homeworld. This would probably have happened millions of years into the species existance, given that the species evolved and did not have to re-evolve, a lucky species... We on earth have had millions of species before us humans and we seem to have evolved to our current level of intelligence due to the fact that all the catesrophic asteroidal activity seems to have slowed enough to allow us to evolve to our level of intelligence without having to reset the cycle. A species that continued to evolve facing no mass extinctions or planetary devastation level events.

Because no species would just logically leave their homeworld to venture out into the vastness of unknown space on a one way trip to an unknown destination without a means to return to their homeworld within a logically feasible frame of time.

Aliens: If we ever do detect alien life or an alien space craft enters our atmosphere and makes itself known intentionally or not, we would be in a really scary situation, because a "mothership[s]" would not be far off... We would basically be seeing "scouts" which would really be terrifying, because who knows what would be out there moving around in our - the solar system...

Some Lunar Recon Orbital Cam images of a couple Apollo sites on the moon:

Apollo 17

Apollo 12

Not bad...close enough to see the footpaths and rover tracks.


For comparison, here's a screenshot of the Sahara I took in Google Earth, zoomed in to as close to the same scale as I could manage(~100 meters on the scale legend). This area has the clearest imagery I could find. Coordinates are 21°05'04.57" N 12°15'35.42" E for anyone wanting to look with GE, otherwise just click the thumbnail for the full sized screenshot:



That rectangle on the left looks like ruins of a wall or building or something? I dunno, I found this quite by accident. I think the streaks on the right might be vehicle tracks, like the rover tracks of the Apollo sites.

Originally posted by hmmmbeer
s. How come I can google earth and see a footprint, yet i am supposed to believe a set of 4 pixels is the lander?
.

Care to provide a link to a picture taken from the same height above the earth as the LRO is above the Moon in Google Earth which shows footprints, or have to just given the usual hoaxer BS type of statement because its sounds good!

Originally posted by CitizenNum287119327
Noticed this paragraph today.

Is this what the OP is refering to??

sciencedaily

A greater understanding of Earth's radiation belts is vital for protecting the satellites we rely on for global positioning, communications and weather monitoring, Turner said. Earth's outer radiation belt is a harsh radiation environment for spacecraft and astronauts; the high-energy electrons can penetrate a spacecraft's shielding and wreak havoc on its delicate electronics. Geomagnetic storms triggered when the oncoming particles smash into Earth's magnetosphere can cause partial or total spacecraft failure.

If the radiation still stuffs up satellites.... what shielding did the apollo xx's have to stop this?

The Van Allen Radiation Belt is a belt:

The Van Allen radiation belt is a torus of energetic charged particles (plasma) around Earth, which is held in place by Earth's magnetic field.

Van Allen Radiation Belt

They just avoided it.

The Apollo astronauts traveled through the Van Allen radiation belts on the way to the Moon; however, exposure was minimized by following a trajectory along the edge of the belts that avoided the strongest areas of radiation.

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Hahaha check my post just above yours.

reply to post by diamondsmith


birds weren't meant to survive in cages and neither are people! You are only trapped by your own arrogance and ignorance on this planet. Next, how come you can see an American flag on the moon with a strong telescope? Some other civilization must have put it there, right?!!

Lay off tha Cool-Aid...

If this was a serious post, u should've provided facts that support your argument, instead you have thrown out a massive personal assumption, and have left yourself open 2 ridicule... Be prepared next time..

Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by notonsamepage

 

If you knew what was at stake during the cold war, you wouldn't be saying that.

If you decided you would think differently you wouldn't even reply.

reply to post by notonsamepage

If you decided you would think differently you wouldn't even reply.

1) What the hell does that even mean?

2) What does that have to do with the OP?

The OP seems to have been disproven both by the responses and by the OP's own inability to prove anything he said.

This is over and done in my opinion.

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I agree with chamber here.

What the hell does that mean?

420land and it maked you reply,, but back on topic

the op have not anwered many of you, why even care to crash it more..

reply to post by diamondsmith

It does sound plausible to be fair

In the book the day after roswell philp corso says that the aliens they have recover were humanoid robots specifically engineered for long distance travel thorugh space or time. ( chapter 7 the ebe if you have not read it buy the book thru ibooks ).

Maybe you are right and people could not travel to long distances without being affected. Maybe at some time there will be so high technology that it is going to be possible, but if you think that right now when you view a movie in 3D you feel that you are inside the movie, think about a new technology that you could get inside that humanoid robots and feel, hear and smell everything without traveling to distance places, you could be in your bed controlling that humanoid robots and don't need to be there.

Imagine sending a humanoid robot that has artificial inteligence and then when it has arrived at the destination you wear a helmet and get inside that humanoid robot, with all the advances in technology that is going to be possible.

Think all of this like the movie avatar, what could be the reason to risk your life going to another distance world when you could do the same without taking a single risk.

Originally posted by vrlsh6
reply to post by diamondsmith

 

It does sound plausible to be fair

And sadly it is also true as long as no one travel in space beyond a certain distance from Earth.

Ok...who is posting this crap? A certain distance away from Earth a Human cant survive? What kind of bull is that? All you need is proper radiation shielding and hope you don't hit anything...and your going to be fine!
What a bunch of Balooney! Split Infinity

reply to post by notonsamepage

the op have not anwered many of you, why even care to crash it more..

I might be a lucky one. The OP did answer me.

But his answer didn't make any sense whatsoever. Like the rest of this thread, really. But it's still ongoing and going and going and going....so...

People must enjoy I guess. 26 pages and not a shred of evidence. (which the OP doesn't need since it's in Skunk works)...

All good.

reply to post by SplitInfinity


I wouldn't be so sure that it is just radiation shielding its also radiation yielding too... The earth's heart beat is what keeps living beings circadian rhythm intact, without that REM sleep does not occur and one starts to go mad and dies after a short time...they say they implemented artificial schumann resonance freq's into the shuttle and rockets after discovering this is the case. I feel it is true that the earths schumann resonance is dynamically entrained with the Sun that the saturation and feedback system of the sun is what gives it the vibrancy that supports life... An artificial schumann also needs the suns extra frequencies in resonance to serve as a sustaining force. If one travelled beyond the solar system to a certain extent this resonance and feedback would diminished and eventually cease.

Edit: I think that the UFO's etc. are a. higher dimensional beings and b. time travellers. Not interstellar travellers, there is another potential possibility which may enable transporting via wormholes but I'm not going to talk about that as its indeterminate and only possible under certain circumstances which I feel are well beyond probability of implementation by Nasa given the nature of the mindset of contemporary physics.

Originally posted by Spiratio
reply to post by SplitInfinity

 

I wouldn't be so sure that it is just radiation shielding its also radiation yielding too... The earth's heart beat is what keeps living beings circadian rhythm intact, without that REM sleep does not occur and one starts to go mad and dies after a short time...they say they implemented artificial schumann resonance freq's into the shuttle and rockets after discovering this is the case. I feel it is true that the earths schumann resonance is dynamically entrained with the Sun that the saturation and feedback system of the sun is what gives it the vibrancy that supports life... An artificial schumann also needs the suns extra frequencies in resonance to serve as a sustaining force. If one travelled beyond the solar system to a certain extent this resonance and feedback would diminished and eventually cease.

Edit: I think that the UFO's etc. are a. higher dimensional beings and b. time travellers. Not interstellar travellers, there is another potential possibility which may enable transporting via wormholes but I'm not going to talk about that as its indeterminate and only possible under certain circumstances which I feel are well beyond probability of implementation by Nasa given the nature of the mindset of contemporary physics.

edit on 4-2-2012 by Spiratio because: (no reason given)

Well...I can disprove your first part of your post right now. Circadian RHYTHM is an over stated hypothisis that has had credence lent to it because the only people who are used in these studies are either people with sleeping disorders and even when a control group is brought into the equation...they are asked to sleep thus they do not sleep in their normal behaviorable way.

One thing you are right about is a person can only go so long without sleep...99.99999% of us will die without being allowed to sleep over various times depending on the person...that is unless you happen to be in that .00001% of people that are lucid dreamers and always know when they are asleep. This has alot to do with a person having neither Right or Left Brain Hemesphere Dominance as well as equal communication of the two hemespheres with the Subconscious...the part of us that remembers EVERYTHING our senses pick up....then allows whatever hemesphere of a persons brain that is dominant to decide which side will deal with the data....so in some people...their Left side or analitical side determines what hemesphere will interprete data as well as in some people...the Right side or creative side is dominant.

People who are lying will automaticly look up with both eyes to the Right side of their forehead and those who are trying to figure something out that involves mathamatical or spacial geometric calculations will look up with both eyes to the LEFT side of their forehead. Then there are people like me.

I use both sides eually and after recieving a CT scan years ago...it was determined that I had an over abundance of neural connections between each hemesphere as well as the are of the brain associated with a persons subconscious....I have played in a Touring International Band for years and do not need sleep if I am physically not tired. As far as CIRCADIAN RHYTHM is concerned...being constantly around powerful Amps that produce a MASSIVE ELECTROMAGNET FIELD...whether they are on or off as they are basically giant capaciters....and doing this for over 30 years...I am still alive! LOL! Nice way you wrote your post though! Split Infinity

Originally posted by SplitInfinity

Originally posted by Spiratio
reply to post by SplitInfinity

 

I wouldn't be so sure that it is just radiation shielding its also radiation yielding too... The earth's heart beat is what keeps living beings circadian rhythm intact, without that REM sleep does not occur and one starts to go mad and dies after a short time...they say they implemented artificial schumann resonance freq's into the shuttle and rockets after discovering this is the case. I feel it is true that the earths schumann resonance is dynamically entrained with the Sun that the saturation and feedback system of the sun is what gives it the vibrancy that supports life... An artificial schumann also needs the suns extra frequencies in resonance to serve as a sustaining force. If one travelled beyond the solar system to a certain extent this resonance and feedback would diminished and eventually cease.

Edit: I think that the UFO's etc. are a. higher dimensional beings and b. time travellers. Not interstellar travellers, there is another potential possibility which may enable transporting via wormholes but I'm not going to talk about that as its indeterminate and only possible under certain circumstances which I feel are well beyond probability of implementation by Nasa given the nature of the mindset of contemporary physics.

edit on 4-2-2012 by Spiratio because: (no reason given)

Well...I can disprove your first part of your post right now. Circadian RHYTHM is an over stated hypothisis that has had credence lent to it because the only people who are used in these studies are either people with sleeping disorders and even when a control group is brought into the equation...they are asked to sleep thus they do not sleep in their normal behaviorable way.

One thing you are right about is a person can only go so long without sleep...99.99999% of us will die without being allowed to sleep over various times depending on the person...that is unless you happen to be in that .00001% of people that are lucid dreamers and always know when they are asleep. This has alot to do with a person having neither Right or Left Brain Hemesphere Dominance as well as equal communication of the two hemespheres with the Subconscious...the part of us that remembers EVERYTHING our senses pick up....then allows whatever hemesphere of a persons brain that is dominant to decide which side will deal with the data....so in some people...their Left side or analitical side determines what hemesphere will interprete data as well as in some people...the Right side or creative side is dominant.

People who are lying will automaticly look up with both eyes to the Right side of their forehead and those who are trying to figure something out that involves mathamatical or spacial geometric calculations will look up with both eyes to the LEFT side of their forehead. Then there are people like me.

I use both sides eually and after recieving a CT scan years ago...it was determined that I had an over abundance of neural connections between each hemesphere as well as the are of the brain associated with a persons subconscious....I have played in a Touring International Band for years and do not need sleep if I am physically not tired. As far as CIRCADIAN RHYTHM is concerned...being constantly around powerful Amps that produce a MASSIVE ELECTROMAGNET FIELD...whether they are on or off as they are basically giant capaciters....and doing this for over 30 years...I am still alive! LOL! Nice way you wrote your post though! Split Infinity

True the Circadian rhythm isn't all that important for some...I too am super-conscious rather than separated with conscious/subconscious...I even feel like I'm dreaming when wake at times (minus the solipsism as most entertain in a dream - i am aware its still everyday reality) However my notions are still valid as schumann resonance is not just about circadian rythm and dreaming its also needed for biological functioning on many other levels as well.