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Originally posted by itsthetooth
Back on an evolution channel, people on there were trying to claim that apes and monkeys get just as sick as humans do. There is no way. They don’t even require medical intervention or vaccines from birth like we do, there is just no comparison.
As humans come into contact with chimpanzees more readily through bushmeat availability and open-access logging roads, the spread of zoonotic diseases such as Ebola, a deadly hemorrhagic fever, threaten both human and ape populations. In some areas, Ebola is a concern for the viability of chimpanzee populations because of its acute deadliness and misunderstood etiology (Walsh et al. 2003). Other infectious diseases that threaten chimpanzees include the common cold, pneumonia, paralytic poliomyelitis, tuberculosis, chicken pox, and influenza (among others) (Butynski 2001). An epidemic of any of these diseases could cause massive mortality within a small population and potentially cause rapid extinction of subspecies and species. In 1966, multiple infants were killed and many adults paralyzed in an outbreak of a paralytic disease (probably polio) at Gombe (Goodall 1986). Frequent close contact due to increasing human populations or even tourists, guides, and park personnel may increase the risk of transmitting these diseases to chimpanzees, and the problem could worsen.
Well the term "common ancestor" was just a phrase coined because they are unable to find a so called missing link. So the term common ancestor is just a way of saying we are close, but no way to prove it. In over 150 years and over 250 million bones and fossils exumed, they have yet to find one single missing link out of all 5 million species we have here on earth. As far as I'm concearned that alone is proof that evolution doesn't exist.
No they are not.
We are supposed to have descended from a common ancestor - but they are certainly not it, since they have had just as much evolution to fit into their niche since that split as we have.
I think there is a lot more circular logic going on however. I think that we got off the right track to begin with because something was wrong from the start. I'm not trying to make excuses, I'm just saying if we aren't on the right planet to begin with, we are bound to have a lot of problems. What God did to us was just wrong. Moving anyone to another planet is wrong. Of course he may not have realized this, much less cared. It is possible that he had no understanding of the predicament he would be leaving us in.
Earth is our home ( or was supposed to be ) but the greed of man and his thirst for power and control took advantage of the Earth to try and make profits by creating the economy, over producing ... Pretty much everything and wasting over half of it.
We were meant to take from the earth what we need when we need it plain and simple and give it back instead of manufacturing food and pharmaceutical drugs ( which are basically a synthetic based on herbs and plants that grows everywhere free for all to use thus making no profit towards pharmaceutical companies ) and then placed on shelves in unthinkable quantities then wind up wasted thrown in the garbage most of which was still edible, meanwhile people are starving across the world. It makes no sense at all we don't take the minimum we need we over produce it at ridiculously low cost and then try and sell as most as they can in short periods of time and creating stupid hypes for junk they sell at astronomical profit.
We went wrong somewhere and we are going low But one thing I learned throughout my still short life is there is always balance in life let's focus on positivity and Love for the future what we put out resonates around us in ways we least suspect
Spread Love brothers PEACE
I get a lot of resistance from people claiming that we don't need medical intervention and I call BS on that. I strongly believe in it. One guy I ran into on the evolution channel claims that the bushmen are prime examples of proof that we don't need medical intervention. The problem is that they may not have the same DNA as us and could be a totally different species.
I like Lloyd Pye, but I know a lot of people including myself who never have had vaccines or other 'correctional' health measures and are more healthy than those who have had them. A lot of these 'needs' are false to make you buy a product incase you child becomes ill if you don't buy it, but ti can make them weaker as their bodies don't naturally develop to combat diseases etc. That's why kids are healthier who play outdoors form a young age etc. The human body is NOT weak like they want you to believe. Most things that harm us and make us weak are man made things that we eat or that end up in our environment.
I think your very lucky that it was one of the very rare things that your body has the ability to build up its own immunity to.
I used to have bad allergies when I was young and when I stopped taking the tablets for it a few months later I was fine and have been ever since. If you stop taking them for a good few months your body will adapt. Because you take them it makes your body dependant on a drug instead of itself. Trust me on this I used to sneeze all day and have watering eyes all summer long and tried everything despite my family not agreeing with giving me a lot of medication of the shelf and it was when I stopped taking them after about 6 month I realised I no longer had the same reactions and it was fantastic.
Originally posted by itsthetooth
...over four thousand defects in our genes, two dozen of which wont allow you to live past puberty.
... have strong ties to the medical profession from birth.
...require vaccines, and updates as more serious threats surface.
...walk down a pharmaceutical isle even in a grocery store, you start to get this picture of just how big of a problem we are faced with.
...a glimpse into Wiki’s sickness and disease by name turns up with pages upon pages.
...appear that the cards are greatly stacked against us.
...punishments that were handed down to us in the bible.
...what god did to us, to use the definition of Genocide.
Exactly, you got it.
But remember... "god" loves us.
...or so that is what the religious cult leaders tell us...
Thats some AWFUL way to show "love".
You didn't do much research on this, did you??
Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
You didn't do much research on this, did you??
Not sure if I missed your point, but what does this have to do with the thousands and thousands of sickness and disease that we get?
Well it sounds like your trying to dismiss the amount of sickness we have as other things have sickness too.
But even humans who live in places with very poor or no healthcare providing they have access to clean water and food still live longer than most creatures on this earth. I'm sorry but bushmen are not a different species to us either, it would be a massive coincidence don't you think that if we are not from here and we happen to be almost identical to these native peoples? A lot of our health problems come from poor diet and lack of exercise. Sure we have diseases, but so do all plant and animal species. Look at species that are prone to way more illnesses and diseases than humans. Does that mean that they are not from this planet either?
I don't doubt that our own intervention has caused some problems but this is ridiculious.
Because we are becoming obsessively clean as well out bodies are relying less and less on their natural defences as well which means that they we are becoming weaker as our bodies become more and more dependant on drugs to provide functions that their bodies are perfectly capable of doing themselves.