Ron Paul won the AZ straw poll today

reply to post by Annee

Who said I was miserable. I'm in SW AZ - - and I love it. There is just something special about the energy of the geographics. Been here for 20 years. The "immigrants" are not just from the south - - many are from CA. The "good old boys" are a dying breed. Parts of AZ you could transplant to parts of TX and no one would know the difference.

Oh - and I also live in Redondo Beach CA - - its a bit complicated.

One person,

can not exist in two places,

in the same way,

at the same time.

GO RON PAUL!

I don't know how many would vote Ron Paul here in Cali, but it's a lot more than people think.

Even in my neighborhood people fly the Betsy Ross flag, flags upside down, State flags instead of the usual, and some Ron Paul stickers on cars and stuff. So there are signs of "Liberty" minded people.

I rarely see a Ron Paul sticker on the Freeway though, and I don't hear people talking about him, but then again how many people here openly talk about politics to strangers? I still think Los Angeles is in an Obama trance for the most part because of the Hollywood/Music scene.

The rest of California, I'm not sure.

reply to post by PaxVeritas


Yeah, although I've seen a lot of Ron Paul supporters in San Diego it's a pretty "blue" state, but as far as the GOP primary goes I think Ron Paul can take CA, and that's a good chunk of delegates. And you never know, if he does manage to get the nomination, and it's a 1 on 1 race with Obama, he may be able to win CA over with his stance on medical cannabis and the wars, opposed to Obama's federal attacks on the dispensaries and continuation of aggressive foreign policy.

reply to post by 27jd


I agree.

California is only friendly to TWO of the people running, Obama or Ron Paul.

Ron would take the rural counties, which people forget are here. He would take most of the inland, north and south.

The ONLY places Ron might have trouble in is parts of Los Angeles County and City (not the white, Asian, Armenian, or rural mixed cities though) The middle class beach and port cities are WAY more RP friendly.

Obama might rival him in L.A. and the Bay Area (San Francisco), Sacramento.

Everywhere else I think Ron Paul would really give Obama the biggest scare. And yes, Cali is the Delegate mother load.

Gotta add,

When I go out of Los Angeles is when I meet other RP supporters and see stickers on cars and "Fed" stickers or related stuff.

People are afraid to show open support for RP in L.A. because L.A. is filled with people who care more about APPEARANCE than anything else. The Hollywood and "L.A" types are the biggest phonies you'll ever know.

But you go to San Bernadino, Orange, Riverside, and almost every country outside of Los Angeles and the shyness goes away.

So RP does have a solid chance of locking Cali now I think about it. I think we have a bunch of 'sleepers' just waiting to vote.

Ron Paul winning a straw poll means Mitt Romney or Newt Gingrich will win instead.

reply to post by 27jd

I was also curious when you said Joe Arpaio is 'establishment'.

Is that the way Arizona people see him? Who does HE support?

Is he unfriendly to RP?

reply to post by L00kingGlass


Yeah, apparently so. I love how the media always somehow spins a Ron Paul victory as being good for one of the other candidates. If he wins the nomination they'll probably say it's a good thing for Romney.

reply to post by PaxVeritas


Well, he's establishment as far as the state GOP insiders, who of course are in the pockets of the GOP establishment nationally. He endorsed Perry, which didn't hold too much sway obviously, lol. He was at the convention as part of the establishment entourage there to support Russell Pearce (author of SB 1070), who was running for some smaller office yesterday and won. He was recently unseated from the Senate in a lost election. Trent Franks was with them, and he has said several negative things about Ron Paul recently. That's why I got satisfaction seeing their faces when they realized us Ron Paul supporters outnumbered all of their supporters.

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by 27jd

 

I'm with you. I was a Dem, that switched to GOP for Paul, and will be an indie after our primary.

I would rather have Obama again than Romney and especially Newt. They need to realize that if the don't get Paul in office the GOP stands no chance. Ex Dems, Indies, and Paul supporters aren't going to vote for Newt or Mitt. They keep saying Paul doesn't stand a chance, but he is the only one that stands a chance of beating Obama because all the GOP will vote for him and he has the thousand of aforementioned temp GOP members that only he can get.

I belive they want Obama to win it. Thats why it will be Mitt or Newt. Thats why they ran McCain last time, they knew Obama would win. They = TNWO = TPTB

reply to post by 27jd


That's right, I remember old Joe supporting Perry. Ugh, forgot about that.

Originally posted by WhereAreTheGoodguys


With every fiber in my being I want him to win, I'm just afraid that the people who can plan false flags can rig votes too.. Just look at Florida and ask Al Gore how that works.

You do realize that if Algore had won his home state of Tennessee, that Florida would not have mattered?

Pretty sad that a candidate can't win his home state.

Anyway, congrats to Ron Paul for winning YET ANOTHER Straw Poll! But until the Ron Paul minions realize that these straw polls mean nothing, and learn that it is primary voting that matters, he will be defeated again.

He really has no chance. Ron Paul voters are not that advanced. All talk and no action.

So this means the good old man will come in last at voting time. Naturally.

Way to go Paul,
now it is time to see
if he actually WINS.
These straw polls
are really unreliable.
Florida is coming up
and PAUL stop campaigning
because of the finances
he went to AZ and
won the straw poll
it is not a big deal though
if he wins the primary then
it is time to celebrate.

OP I really appreciate your comments and you may as well have been speaking for me and my family as well. We feel exactly as you do about voting this time around.

Thanks for being out there and representing a growing number of peoples views.

Originally posted by RRJ58
So this means the good old man will come in last at voting time. Naturally.

You mean the old man came 2nd in NH 3rd in Iowa, 4th in SC.
Naturally, you know not of what you speak.

reply to post by popsmayhem


He wasn't actually here, a campaign surrogate did speak for him, but not before the GOP establishment tried to stall and not let him speak, by some stupid argument over ayes and nays on a bylaw vote, they drug it out and tried to adjourn without letting the Ron Paul surrogate speak, probably because there were no other surrogates for any of the other candidates. We started shouting to let him speak, so they gave him 2 minutes but the RP supporters rocked the house in support. Then before adjourning the GOP speaker, keeping within the current establishment attempt to kiss our asses to vote for whomever their candidate is, told us he really appreciates our enthusiasm, in a somewhat condescending manner....

reply to post by 27jd


I heard straw polls matter a lot.
Kinda consider them a waste of time. Wait for the real voting begins and the rejection continues.

reply to post by Blahable


Huh?