Pirate Bay to Allow Real-Object Downloads. The Real Reason for SOPA, IMO.

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The Pirate Bay, one of the world's most infamous online piracy and file-sharing sites, is now hosting a type of mock-up file that allows your 3D printer to create physical objects.

ThePirateBay.org yesterday announced via its blog, first reported by GigaOM, that users can now search in a new category called "Physibles".

Physibles, as the blog explains, are mock-up files that allow a 3D printer to create a physical object:

"We believe that the next step in copying will be made from digital form into physical form. It will be physical objects. Or, as we decided to call them: Physibles.

Data objects that are able (and feasible) to become physical. We believe that things like three-dimensional printers, scanners and such are just the first step. We believe that in the nearby future, you will print your spare parts for your vehicles," The Pirate Bay predicted in its post yesterday.

Look closely people as this is the future. A future where we will be able to print what we want.

Eventually our printing material will be stronger than steel and we will be able to print virtually anything. Perhaps we could by different materials and print different parts and then we could literally make anything that our printer could fit.

Think about it. The SOPA bill is about movies, music and games, but in the future we will be able to do the same to almost anything taking power out of the corporations that create these things.

They are thinking ahead and want to have control of the internet before the internet controls them.

It will be great and revolutionary for us and will be 'horrible' for them.

As I said in another analogy, If you could just take a copy of your friend Ferrari and make your own, where is the harm? If your friend still has his own Ferrari and the is literally no loss in the equation, why is that a crime. The item that was copied was purchased, The copy made was not existent beforehand.

Somehow these power corporations have us believing that this is a crime...

Well, I know what it is, and it is BS...

Any thoughts?

Pred...

Wow a 3-D printer, heck I just upgraded to a laser jet. Or, are those the old one from the ink jet printers?


I haven't even figured out how to put ink in my laser jet yet. I can't find the darn thing.

I find it funny that corporations are unwilling to accept that capitalism, which lead to their success, is a double edged blade, and can lead to their fall. The whole purpose of capitalism is survival of the fittest. These corporations are beginning to rig the scales to secure themselves a stronghold over various markets, and thus preventing us from reaching our full potential through technology, just because they think they have a right to make a buck.

Nobody has a "right" to make money, they have the right to work for it. This childish behavior from the RIAA and MPAA needs to end. They need to adapt to changes within the marketplace or die of incompetence.

Betting the drug junkies are gonna be saucer eyed with this technology.

I don't take this seriously simply because what are we downloading? A 3D McDonald's happy meal toy? It's not like our 3D printers (for those who have them, must be nice) are going to sit there and like download a car or whatever.

Call me when I can illegally download a pizza.

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This is nothing new. Rapid Prototype Machines have been integrated with "Solid Works" and other proprietors of ".obj" type files for quite some time.

There is a coming revolution in digital distribution technology - but it's still a ways off. Printable circuitry and a number of other innovations are on the horizon, as well as more functional variations of rapid-prototyping (currently restricted to types of resins and plastics).

Honestly, though, Congress doesn't even understand the Internet. Just listen to their conversations about it. The idea that you could, one day, download and print clothing with integrated electronics and displays will send them into catatonic shock if they had the capacity to take it seriously.

Most people do not possess the gift of vision. They exist in the present and with what currently exists. They simply have no concept of the future outside of getting older and drawing retirement (and that is just required to be considered average).

SOPA is Congress being retarded and listening to lobbyists who back the bill, mostly because of all of the ear-marks that come with it (and will be seeking ear-marks to be exempt from it within days of it being passed).

Originally posted by ohyouknow
I don't take this seriously simply because what are we downloading? A 3D McDonald's happy meal toy? It's not like our 3D printers (for those who have them, must be nice) are going to sit there and like download a car or whatever.

Call me when I can illegally download a pizza.

I think your right on that, the tech just isnt far enough along to allow anything with any real meaningful worth to be downloaded and "printed" although I have seen printers that can produce simple machines with moving gears.

I'm going to guess that one of the first downloads on offer is going to be a life size replica of a woman

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It will be great and revolutionary for us

It sure will, I could not agree with you more. It makes me think of the book Diamond Age by Neal Stephensen. In his book it is considered the Diamond Age because there are 3D nano-printers that can create building materials out of diamond. They can also build all sorts of useful things.

Even our present 3D printers can print some useful things, and it is surmised that a 3d printer was used to create this...

This clever device is believed to have been fabricated by a 3-D printer, and the precision of the design lets it fit perfectly over the bulbous green blob that is supposed to make Chase’s machines hard to cover with skimmers.

The skimmer reads the card’s magnetic strip when inserted, and this in turn activates a camera which will record you entering your PIN (this is why you should always cover the keypad when you enter your number).

Inside is circuitry which could be ripped from a cellphone or video camera, raising the possibility that the stolen info could be sent wirelessly to the fraudster who planted the device.

Scary, right? And kind of impressive at the same time. I guess the only safe thing to do is to go into the open bank and draw your money from the cashier, just like we used to do in the olden days.

www.wired.com...

Does it seem like 'Cyber-Punk' has arrived in spades, or is it just me?

X.

Originally posted by solarstorm
Betting the drug junkies are gonna be saucer eyed with this technology.

These machines print plastic components. It isn't a chemical drug factory.

I'm a retired novice haxx0r from back in the day when AOL was all there was basically, they actually banned me for life. I don't disagree with their decision, I use to be a terror to their members. Fair enough.

My advice.... stay away from Pirate Bay. I can tell you that real underground file sharing networks aren't called "StealFreeMovies.com" or anything that obvious. Those sites are designed for the Walmart brained file swappers, something to attract the dummies who don't know better. If you are choosing to violate SOPA, then let the swapper beware, and stay away from P2P's that are "too pretty", the good stuff is rugged and dirty looking, no airbrushing, it's about getting down to business and not about the wrapping.

Originally posted by ChaoticOrder

Originally posted by solarstorm
Betting the drug junkies are gonna be saucer eyed with this technology.

These machines print plastic components. It isn't a chemical drug factory.

Not yet but give it time.

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My advice.... stay away from Pirate Bay. I can tell you that real underground file sharing networks aren't called "StealFreeMovies.com" or anything that obvious.

ThePirateBay simply provide torrent files, like 99% of all the torrent websites out there... they are just more popular than most other torrent sites. They are completely legitimate and the majority of torrents indexed on TPB are also indexed on other torrent sites. It doesn't really matter where you download the torrent, what matters is the anti-P2P peers that are watching your activity. That's why I use PeerBlock.

I think this is a very exciting development! To all the detractors posting here: yes, it's somewhat limited and primitive...but so was the internet back in the early 90's. Who knows where this will lead?

Star and Flag!

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I'm betting if the technology were able to print objects out of glass, you could make many of the hard to acquire tools necessary to make the drugs. Or things to smoke them.

Hell, think about any of the tools that people use for extremely sensitive things. "The Boot" for example, that gets put on your car, needs a custom tool, I believe.. Or the keys to pretty much anything, parking meters, mailboxes, safe deposit boxes. Objects like that are simple, can be copied, and would be disastrous if they fell into the wrong hands.

While there are already 3d printers basically small CNC machines that can replicate themselves etc. Companies still have to spend a lot of money on R&D to develop a good product that works all the time and does not break down all the time etc... So we are a long ways off before you can just download and print most things you need. And those companis need some incentive to continue to develop good working products, they won't do it if they make a few and everyone else will just copy them cause they will go broke.

I do agree it is the future though I just don't know how it will all play out. I think we will need to get beyond the need for money where people develop things for the good of humanity and that is a very long ways off.

We'll be able to print food for hungry people. We'll be able to share not only a recipe, but the full meal," the blog reads.

That just sounds completely ridiculous to me. How do they expect to print a meal? First of all, the poor people who can't even afford food, are some how expected to afford a 3D printer. Secondly, the material for the food has to come from some where, it wont be free either - it's not like you'll be able to throw in a bunch of dirt and it'll convert the atoms of dirt into food molecules. Thirdly, it's just completely stupid. It's like those scientists who say teleportation will be possible by scanning the structure of a person and then rebuilding them atom by atom at the other end. No one will be willing to do that, because it means the original copy of themselves must be destroyed.


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I'm betting if the technology were able to print objects out of glass, you could make many of the hard to acquire tools necessary to make the drugs. Or things to smoke them.

It's not illegal to possess a device which can be potentially used for making or taking drugs. It's illegal to possess drugs.

Hell, think about any of the tools that people use for extremely sensitive things. "The Boot" for example, that gets put on your car, needs a custom tool, I believe.. Or the keys to pretty much anything, parking meters, mailboxes, safe deposit boxes. Objects like that are simple, can be copied, and would be disastrous if they fell into the wrong hands.

It will be awesome when I can just print my own custom tool, like those annoying little star designed screws. As for copying things like keys, anyone can do that easily. Take the key to a key-smith and he'll copy it for you. Or you could just copy it yourself using simple mold techniques. Two words: blu-tack and thermoplastic.

Originally posted by hawkiye
While there are already 3d printers basically small CNC machines that can replicate themselves etc. Companies still have to spend a lot of money on R&D to develop a good product that works all the time and does not break down all the time etc... So we are a long ways off before you can just download and print most things you need. And those companis need some incentive to continue to develop good working products, they won't do it if they make a few and everyone else will just copy them cause they will go broke.

I do agree it is the future though I just don't know how it will all play out. I think we will need to get beyond the need for money where people develop things for the good of humanity and that is a very long ways off.

I don't know how far off exactly. Technology is advancing at an unprecedented pace and if you think about 10-15 years ago half that for this tech. It might not be in full use but it will be available fairly soon.

If we can have 3d printers that can reproduce themselves this tech can go far...

Pred...

reply to post by hawkiye

I do agree it is the future though I just don't know how it will all play out. I think we will need to get beyond the need for money where people develop things for the good of humanity and that is a very long ways off.

Because you are asking for something akin to dry water, clear mud, etc.

The "good of humanity" is measured in money. The jobs most valuable to society tend to pay the highest (at least, in the free market systems). The jobs that any person can be minimally trained to do don't pay well.

Technology like this shifts the market. Nothing more, nothing less. It's like how the energy market is changing: The government will come and eat your #ing face if you don't use solar power. Solar power companies are now profitable; when they were not cost-effective, before regulators showed up with promises of a legal gang-bang for not buying into the fallacious eco-nut propaganda.

This simply shifts where the market goes. "Feed-Stock" for these printers will become very valuable - as will technologies related to their application. While atom-by-atom printers are versatile - I can't help but think that may be very time-inefficient (particularly when building something that can be just as effectively printed using pre-manufactured chompounds). So, it will become a race to see who can develop the most detailed, expedient, and versatile printing platforms (with focuses on each particular area, of course) - and who can supply them with the most cost-effective feed-stocks.

Of course, the design process should not be overlooked - but I expect it will be much like the entertainment industry has become, today. E-books are quite popular, and paid for by plenty of people willing to patronize the author and/or publisher. So are games, movies, and audio. Downloadable/printable designs are no real exception.

Although.... this does beg the question of what the more mischievous (if not down-right evil) individuals would do with such technology. We all know that torrents and other peer-to-peer programs are targets of hoaxes and virus/malware attacks. .... I don't exactly want to think about what all they could do to some unwitting kid thinking: "It will only take me ten minutes to download this version of [some game that should be 80 gigabytes, but is mysteriously only 300 kilobytes]!"

Makes some of those weird sci-fi plots where computer-viruses mysteriously manage to infect humans seem a little more realistic than their creators probably ever would have imagined.

Lol, Welcome the future guys. You can already model stuff in 3d and send it here:
shapeways/

There is also
thingiverse

They print stuff in plastic, metal, ceramic, glass...it's crazy and pretty cheap considering you can model whatever you want and print it. It's not CNC lathe all the time, they extrude material as well such as plastic. A recent kit came out that would let you do this(3d printing) in your home for around 500$-1000$. There are people making knock off lego people and sorts of stuff.

3d printers:

makerbot

printrbot

ultimaker

Video here at NPR with more about the coming DIY 3d printing revolution.
Librarys make room for hacker spaces

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In the vid they talk about how some people have printed a heart! Using a modified printer head.

it's not like you'll be able to throw in a bunch of dirt and it'll convert the atoms of dirt into food molecules.

Actually yes, in 20 -30 years easy.Go to the 4 minute mark and listen there.

This is way cool!! I just gotta say, I would love to have a 3-D printer!! It is very cool that they have printed a human heart! Can you imagine where we would be in 100 years if we could print up the things we need! I also think it's awesome that The Pirate Bay has a space dedicated for these things!

I see a future bright, with lots of ingenuity!