Population Control and Fluoride

Hi Ladies & Gents.

This thread is for the simple purpose of putting into perspective where the whole "Fluoride in the water" thing comes from, along with population control.

I have seen people claim that there would be no such conspiracy, too many people would need to be in on it. This I think is the reply of someone very frightened of realizing the truth. It is hard to come to grips with the information uncovered when looking into Eugenics and Population control.

Here is just one document.

Memo to Bernard Berelson - Pres. of Population Council

It cites "Proposals" to "Restructure Family", as well as Social Constraints and Social Controls.

One lists "Fertility control agents in the water supply"

Here is another document.

Studies in Family Planning

They brush up against a lot of ideas in this particular document. But I want you to read a particular part just to get the just of it if you are too lazy. Then please read the full document!

Page 3, last paragraph:

However, niether Ehrlich's "temporary sterilants" nor Ketcel's "fertility agent" (B-1) is now available or on the technological horizon--though that does not mean that the research task ought not be pursued against a subsequent need, especially since such substance could be administered voluntarily and individually as well as involuntary and collectively. In the latter case, if administered through the water supply or a similar source, the substance would need to be medically safe and free of side effects for men and women, young and old, well and ill, physiologically marinal, as well as for animals and perhaps plants. As some people have remarked, such an involuntary addition to a water supply would face far greater difficulties of acceptance simply on medical grounds than the far milder proposals with regard to fluoridation to prevent tooth decay.

As we can see this is very controversial to the masses, so they disguise it as something that helps.

Is fluoridation effective or does it really have anything to do with fertility rate? The answer is yes.

www.fluoridealert.org

www.fluoride-journal.com

www.fluoridation.com/

There is just 3 link's. There a thousands more on the effects of fluoride.

Where can you find flouride??

In anesthetics
In antibiotics
In automobile wheel cleaning products
In bottled juices
In bottled water
In chewing gum
In dental care products
In fluoride supplements, tablets, and drops
In fluoride pesticide residues
In glass-etching or chrome cleaning agents
In household cleaning products
In insecticides
In instant teas
In mattresses
In milk
In mouthwash
In polluted air
In processed foods
In rodenticides
In scotchgard
In soda
In tap water
In teflon
In toothpaste
In vaccines
In every single cell in your body (Thanks to the above metioned products)

IMHO - The simple conclusion to come to is that there are Eugenicists behind the scenes who feel that it is their duty to pick and chose who dies, which way humanity is directed as well as what we drink in our water and what gets put into our food.

What does ATS think?

Its not working, dammit!!

Now that I have that out of my system, why don't we just find a way to use mosquito trucks to spray in the evenings not pesticide, but some substance that would affect the urges of the male of the species? If there's no mojo, there's no 'uhh Ohh'.

I asked my dentist about this. They said it was to help lower the national expense for dental treatment via the NHS (in the UK), as to help try and keep our teeth nice and strong. So the dentist said anyway.

Unsure if that applies to countries without NHS.

Lots of things in life we have are bad for us in pure form or high doses .etc, but we carry on regardless.

The only thing i think about when it comes to things like this subject, is we are living longer today than in the previous centuries known, and if that is a result of better medicine, and changes in produce and water, delivering systems for water, food etc. then im all for that, if it extends our life and doesn't do any harm to us or the planet. But with that said, the gov can be very sneaky, and prehaps this is a way to control the masses or something.

Either way, i would like to know the truth of why from the gov.

Diabolical. Think I'll go take a nap, just don't have the energy to fight...

No really that's part of it, to sedate everyone into complacency. After all, no matter what we do, the NWO just rolls on.

Humans are so important that instead of openly bashing us with police, killing us with medicine and slaughtering us in war, they need to hide secret chemicals in our mattresses.

I agree.

Something is affecting our minds... really affecting our minds...

My experience with fluoride is anecdotal. Please forgive me if it is too personal, but I think it is relevant to the discussion about population control.

Like most women, I would prefer that my husband brush his teeth before intimacy. He understood my reasons, but said that when he brushed his teeth, it would cause him to have trouble maintaining his, um, desired state. I used to think that he was just being lazy, and that, being as he was over 50, it was a common ailment with men that age. He was having to buy all kinds of herbal remedies, and was thinking about going to the doctor for viagra, when we moved from a suburban area out to the country.

After reading a great deal on fluoride, I stopped buying fluoridated toothpaste (I buy Tom's of Maine no fluoride paste now), and talked him into drinking our well water instead of diet coke all day. All liquids consumed come from our well, or straight from the fruit. Within a few months, he had no more trouble in that department, and now is more like a 30 year old than a 55 year old.

I do believe that this is the problem with a lot of men in his age group. Medical science would have us accept that erectile dysfunction is to be expected once a man gets into his 40s and 50s, but my own personal observation is that, once the fluoride is taken out of the equation, the problem clears right up.

Fluoride makes men have a much more narrow window of opportunity for impregnating their partner. Men used to be able to do that until death, now they are all having trouble with ED starting in their 40s. That is certainly one form of population control, to be sure.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Diabolical. Think I'll go take a nap, just don't have the energy to fight...

No really that's part of it, to sedate everyone into complacency. After all, no matter what we do, the NWO just rolls on.

I do believe that fluoride has multiple uses for the NWO. I am sorry I did not get into that. My point was just to prove that some very influential people have talked about doing this over and over, and I just can't accept that it is a coincidence.

It is a poison and has neurological effects that are no good.

So sick of these fluoride posts, just like aids denalists, global warming, moon hoax and god knows what else some people really are sensationists . Dont you think its strange that people would rather believe in funny ideas and get as many converts as they can than to believe in a simple truth? reminds me of religion....

reply to post by FissionSurplus


Not too personal whatsoever. I think that stories like yours need to be talked about and dissected to shed light on the subject.

I agree that men are having a lot more problems in the bedroom that is quite evident. I personally don't know if that is what affected me when I went through my own issues. But my own issues are what got me to be more aware about what I consume and how it effects my body. I think that is something that most people just don't think about because most normal humans like to give the benefit of the doubt to their governments and think that this is something that could just not be done. When in fact the most of the worlds atrocities are carried out by governments and special interest groups.

These documents should at least convince people to take the subject a little more seriously. Then maybe we can avoid issues like the one you've brought to light.

Thank for your input It definitely adds substance to the thread.

reply to post by godfather420


You're very welcome. There was a time when I believed in the fluoride baloney, but after doing research, and the above-stated experience, I now believe it to be a toxin.

I'm so sick of the nay-sayers, who come on conspiracy sites and then make fun of anybody who believes anything outside of the mainstream government B.S. Fluoride is a toxin, it has no positive health benefits, and it doesn't need to be in our water. What is so hard to understand about that??

I was just reading up a bit on this topic after my initial reply, and lots of people arguing both sides.

Anyway, i found this video which was quite cool, and may add a bit more info to the convo were having.

Enjoy.





The main fluoride stuff is near the end of the video but all the video is relevant.

reply to post by godfather420


Thanks for the informative thread even though I have been converted. I use bicarbonate soda to brush my teeth and have noticed a difference in how my teeth feel after brushing and in general how I feel. I have made other changes to my diet as well - such as no dairy - even turned the fridge off and I am coping.

My dentist stated that flouride occurs in nature. I could not respond because he started repairing my chipped tooth - but I thought to myself - lots of things on this Earth are naturally occurring but we have learned not to put them into our bodies!!

Let's hope people do some research and stimulate their intellect into thinking about flouride amongst everything else.

Much Peace...

Thank you and everyone else who does ample research to bring this to the stage. I agree that there a lot of things bad in this world that will make you sick..but I don't agree with promoting it through an UN-necessary polluting of the masses water supply.

Hey.... Mabus here again.

We know what's going on

It's very naughty! You must blow stuff up now! Hello!?

reply to post by BlackDove


Thanks for the video. I haven't seen this one, as there is just so much on the subject.

No one can deny that there has been a deliberate dumbing down of society.

I am currently trying to do as much research as I can, but the effects I find most fascinating are in relation to the pineal gland. It's responsible for so much in the psyche, and many researchers and ancients alike tie it to the collective consciousness, evolution, spirituality, and the soul itself. There is overwhelming information on the effects to the pineal gland between the fluoride research, aluminum research, and diet research, that if there is a facilitated plan by the likes of the NWO, much of their focus seems to be on pineal suppression. I will try to gather some links...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by Amanda5


Aha well yes that's one way to look at it. But tell your dentist that he is using sodium fluoride which is not natural. It is a synthetic waste product that is not at all good when swallowed.

reply to post by AltiusNow


Interesting, thanks for the info. I have brushed up against before but haven't looked into.

One thing I do firmly believe is that TPTB are suppressing spirituality big time. It's no question that they are into the occult and mystery religions.