"The Internal Working Components of One type of UFO".

reply to post by cavtrooper7


Highly unlikely. There are so many different anomalies that 'naturally occur' on a daily basis around the world, and CONUS, that something of this relevance would be ignored as such aforementioned 'anomoly'.


However, I don't hold a PhD in such, more less am I employed by JPL... So who's to really say? Lol, OP might have a better understanding of this, perhaps he could lend some insight?

reply to post by Talltexxxan


Yea sadly, I know what you mean... Thanks for your support.

reply to post by The Matrix Traveller


My concern is more for your person.

I hope you are . . . protecting yourself as well as possible.

And, that you have . . . insured that the complete info is secreted in a variety of trustworthy places . . .

I'm happy to give you more than the benefit of the doubt. I'm a layman on such scores but happy to note what seems plausible.

If you can safely come up with any videos of even a model . . . that would be great.

However, I think your life and health are worth more than our disclosure.

reply to post by cavtrooper7

If anyone develops Fifth tier tech in CONUS, outside of DOD, that alters it's gravity signature won't such a field be detected and worse acted upon?

Thanks for the post...

Sometimes us Species You & esp Me, can be looking directly at something and not see it, through NOT knowing what to look for, or it contradicts other understanding which was not complete in the first place.

I guess Information available will never be Complete? I mean regarding us Primates.

We are a recent Species in this Program (Universe).

Some in this world are down right Insulting and Offensive to other Civilizations in this Program (Universe) who have been here for Billions of years before us.... LOL.

Just as well they understand us... LOL. and what the Earth is really about... LOl.

They have a sense of Humor too.... Its Not just reserved to the human primate...

Ok so what I"m interested in is if anyone out there with a mechanical or electrical engineering background can verify the part about the capacitive electrolysis with ceramics. If that is plausible or doable then the rest of this stands much more likelihood of being at least physically possible.

I just finished reading through the first 3 pages of your other thread, and let me just say.....WOW.

That was alot to take in, I honestly felt it hard to stay involved in what I was reading. It felt like the information was all over the place, if you know what I mean.

I feel you have alot of information to give, just to me it was presented in a way I couldnt follow.

I would still really like to know where you came across this information. So if nothing more, than so I can set my bearings sote of speak.

Some in this world are down right Insulting and Offensive to other Civilizations in this Program (Universe) who have been here for Billions of years before us.... LOL.

Just as well they understand us... LOL. and what the Earth is really about... LOl.

They have a sense of Humor too.... Its Not just reserved to the human primate...

I feel like you know more than you are letting on.
I almost feel like a child asking if the R/C car can go backward and forward while your explaining the electronics.
So forget the technical stuff for now. I want to know the end result of the stuff your trying to tell us.

reply to post by BO XIAN


Thank you for your Post but it is a matter of what where our Values lay..... LIFE or just this "experience".

As for myself..... LIFE comes First....

The body I chose to experience through, is Secondary (which by the way I have enjoyed, but it's NOT all there is and it's near its end.)

You can't Kill LIFE... LIFE is LIFE that is why it is Called LIFE and NOT Death.

How do I know as I have already experienced Death.. Been there done that.... so I know first hand.

The Program (Universe) is Dead but what Experiences the body and the Universe it interacts with, (which is Merely a "Story") is LIVING and NOT Dead, neither can anything Kill LIFE which is the Only "Living One".

So if the Human Species wants to Terminate my body, they ca,n BUT They can't Touch my LIFE..

I just return to where I have come from, to play the next DVD as to say.... LOL. "Joke"...

I suspect the "Human Primate/Species" is Too "Superstitious" in their thinking...

Check out my other thread...

Another Understanding/Interpretation of this Universe

www.abovetopsecret.com...

It might throw some LIGHT on the matter...

NO religion, theology or Philosophy though just pure Technology....

reply to post by roguetechie


Look you can try it yourself... It will cost near to nothing to do this yourself, a child can do it... LOL.

reply to post by Talltexxxan


I will try hard to finish this thread as soon as possible, but there is a lot more to reveal just in what I have presented so far, to get the True understanding across.

Not being an expert on centrifugal force, I can certainly see the logic.
I build engines, so Im aware of rotational forces.
The Analogy of the Hammer thrower is a good one...
My undertanding is...say a 100kg person spins a 16lb (7.5ish kg) hammer around, initially using his own rotational muscles, when a high rpm is achieved , the hammer thrower is no longer spinning the hammer, it is actually the Hammer spinning the person...Is that correct?
I can imagine an "Engine" made up of a stack of hammer throwers, all spinning, and creating a forward motion.
If a human hammer thrower could actually spin a hammer 1/2 his own weight (50kg), at a relatively low rpm, I would think the person would start moving, at high rpm, actually fly??? Does that make sense?.

I love spinning things, and it probably is the simple answer to a complicated question, Reports and speculation of "Flying Saucers" always seems to involve spinning things.....
Look at the Gryos...excellent gravity defying instruments.
Combine this with electricity and magnetics, and we have our UFOs.
It is probably done already, there are enough threads on ATS of Ex Generals, Naval Space Command etc etc.
Rockets and Jets (tho I love them too) are so wasteful, inefficient and dirty.
Bring this on, build it with carbon fibre, lexan, and light alloys, look out, the Jetsons here we come.

reply to post by gort51


Thank you for your Post I can't stop laughing... NOT at you... but that hammer thrower for I also have a dry sense of humor...

The human Primate is such a funny creature... LOL.

The Analogy of the Hammer thrower is a good one...

Yes I can visualise all sorts of funny things associated with this...

My undertanding is...say a 100kg person spins a 16lb (7.5ish kg) hammer around, initially using his own rotational muscles, when a high rpm is achieved , the hammer thrower is no longer spinning the hammer, it is actually the Hammer spinning the person...Is that correct?

The 2 orbit each other eventually so the true point of rotation will become in between the thrower and the hammer.

This is why the athlete has to lean back to counteract this Phenomena.

It is also why This Technology Configures a number of Dynamic Converters into a Ring of them.

I can imagine an "Engine" made up of a stack of hammer throwers, all spinning, and creating a forward motion.
If a human hammer thrower could actually spin a hammer 1/2 his own weight (50kg), at a relatively low rpm, I would think the person would start moving, at high rpm, actually fly??? Does that make sense?

This is what got me Laughing... Well yes if one could control the situation. My imagination ran away with me... LOL.

But you have got the right Idea...

In the Case of the Craft I will give some rough figures regarding the Forces involved which cause these Craft to move at enormous speed with acceleration that would splatter your body all over the internal walls of the Craft it wasn't for a Natural phenomena associated with that Rotating Mass.

My next Long Post will be discussing this.

I love spinning things, and it probably is the simple answer to a complicated question, Reports and speculation of "Flying Saucers" always seems to involve spinning things.....
Look at the Gryos...excellent gravity defying instruments.

If you just spun up the flywheel of a gyro on its own, to above 100,000 rpm (Not difficult to achieve) and place it in your hand, it can't make contact with your hand, but floats there spinning until it slows down a little, and the phenomena I am referring to stops, and then you would NOT want to be holding it, as it would be exceedingly dangerous, so I don't recommend you try it.

Anything outside this field or "State of Stress" produced by the rotating mass, interacts in this way.

But inside this Field, exists another fascinating phenomena, which prevents you from being Splattered all over the Crafts Internal walls, no matter what the acceleration.

Combine this with electricity and magnetics, and we have our UFOs.

The only electrics I saw in any of these craft involved the Engines.
Everything involving the Interfaces involves Light and Fiber Optics much different than hours though which I will be showing later in my other thread.
They don't use RF or anything like that for Communication, but they do use interfaces being described in my other thread.

Another Understanding/Interpretation of this Universe

www.abovetopsecret.com...

It is probably done already, there are enough threads on ATS of Ex Generals, Naval Space Command etc etc.
Rockets and Jets (tho I love them too) are so wasteful, inefficient and dirty.

Aliens are in hysterics, regarding us playing with fireworks, and trying to ride in a "sky rocket" to get into space.
Yes the human species is a very entertaining Creature indeed.

Bring this on, build it with carbon fibre, lexan, and light alloys, look out, the Jetsons here we come.

Its so refreshing to see the hope come back into this depressed civilization living in isolation.

The human race has to stop looking for this doom and gloom and Trust LIFE again...

We need more like you, in this world in poverty, to bring it back to LIFE again...

reply to post by stirling

I am not exactly sure what he was doing, but it seemed to be with rotating fluids making a vortex of some kind.....
Am i close even?

Sorry you are not anywhere near, what I have described.

Look up some information regarding Balancing machines used to balance any Rotating mass for a start.

reply to post by stirling

I am not exactly sure what he was doing, but it seemed to be with rotating fluids making a vortex of some kind.....
Am i close even?

Sorry you are not anywhere near, what I have described.

Look up some information regarding Balancing machines used to balance any Rotating mass for a start.

This is a poor drawing of what this little craft looked like inside looking toward the Control Consul.

The proportions are Not quite right, but it should give you some idea.

I'm no artist so please understand.



The Screens are the Communication Interfaces which are being described in my other thread.

Another Understanding/Interpretation of this Universe

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Thankyou.

Funny thing....I watch my favorite si-fi movie last week, the impeccable The Day The Earth Stood Still c1951 (Gort tee hee,)
Bearing in mind, this movie was made relatively soon after the modern UFO flap started, I was Fascinated to see the creative Hollywood people of the time, interpret the "workings" of the craft.

Amazingly, they are Light Years ahead of every SiFi interpretation since the early 1960s...so far ahead of Star Trek, Star Wars etc...
The Robot ..Gort (tee hee), is controlled by a light beam, then voice command.
The interior of the craft is all light based, with light sensors to open various apparatus....with the main comunication and command screen, being voice and Light controlled.
There is not one knob, or switch or dial to be seen in the craft.......Way out, but logical thinking, for 1951.

Your description above of the control system, reminded me of the movie.......
I recently bought a bedside clock/radio/alarm for my daughter........to activate the time/snooze etc, you wave your hand over the top of it, and it gives a beep, then displays........Cool Hey..

Matrix
I can see your genuine in trying to portray this post as being plausible and I wish what you were saying is true, however the disclaimer over with I have to savage it. Lets imagine for one moment that these craft you claim to have worked on are from another planet, which planet ? how many light years away is it ?

As best I can tell traveling at light speed the nearest habitable planet is 20+ light years away, these craft use your so called centrifugal force to traverse this distance even allowing for zero gravity in space to propel itself off they just aint going to make it here for some time soon. By my rough estimates traveling at 1 million miles an hour would take about 34 light years to get here...not going to happen.

/end thread.

reply to post by mazzroth

I don't mean to be offensive but man the human species can be rather stupid at times.

Yes I am a bit PIS*^$$% off with your attitude....

You obviously haven't read this thread properly as you have not understood it at all.

There is much more to these craft than what I have shown here.

Before you make a complete fool of yourself, why Not study my other thread carefully, using a little intelligence.

"Another Understanding/Interpretation of this Universe"

Here is the Link for you.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

It may answer many of the questions you may have.

If you are unable to understand any of this, then the easiest thing to do, is NOT read my threads.

So don't waist anymore of my time and yours.

I have more important things to do with what little time I have left in this world.

You are free to believe anything you like, so why come into this thread if you are so all knowing.

You are obviously Interested though, or you would NOT be here, worrying about what I am writing about. I am sure you have better things too do with your time....

I believe you are capable of much more, rather than dragging yourself down, lashing out with, Insults to me and other Species in this Little Universe, who have been in this program billions of years before the human race had ever been thought of, or you for that matter.

Do you really believe your moaning and groaning and insults are going to change anything?

Pull your head out of the Sand and take a good look around you, and stop following after Primates, like a lost sheep.

Don't waist your time and start learning about yourself because in the end, you are left with only yourself.

reply to post by gort51


Thank you for your post...

I understand exactly where you are coming from. Hard case isn't it?

reply to post by The Matrix Traveller


lol as an engineering student I have next to nothing to spend on any experiments. While the actual experiment may be fairly cheap to run the equipment I"d need to compare the volume of hydrogen gas I liberated would NOT be cheap.

That and electronics not being my specialty I am not 100% sure whether I have all the information I need to design a good experiment that would give me accurately measurable results.

The whole thing sounds very interesting and I just might have to try and scrape up the cash to do some sort of experiment. Especially considering that if I could come out of it with a way to electrolyze HHO more efficiently that might be marketable.