"The Internal Working Components of One type of UFO".

If you want to know the truth.... I haven't run away, I am now a Moderator in a New Forum, so get real and stop dreaming...

I am watching this thread with interest, and learning more about human behavior from it, so Trolls please don't stop on my account.

Those who were seriously interested know where I am now.... LOL.

Good luck Trolls, while you fumble around in your Emptiness and Ignorance.

At least I am getting a laugh out of the Trolls BS and behavior in this thread...

Sorry have to laugh.

As for SoulVisions

I never thought you would be so Naive? Or is it you are just plain foolish..

You know, I know who you are and the other name titles you have used as well.

reply to post by The Matrix Traveller


Well I am still interested in what you have to say and I dont know where you have gone.

Originally posted by The Matrix Traveller
If you want to know the truth.... I haven't run away, I am now a Moderator in a New Forum, so get real and stop dreaming...

I'm not sure anyone really cares, friend.

I am watching this thread with interest, and learning more about human behavior from it, so Trolls please don't stop on my account.

Just me, but I find that creepy. Besides, if you didn't have a need for the attention and respect you crave, you would never come back here to go on acting like a child does on their birthday. You and I are no better than anyone else here.

Those who were seriously interested know where I am now.... LOL.

Good luck Trolls, while you fumble around in your Emptiness and Ignorance.

You made the effort to post here again just so that you could continue to insult them?

At least I am getting a laugh out of the Trolls BS and behavior in this thread...

Sorry have to laugh.

Matrix, please settle down. I don't believe anyone here is "trolling" either than the behavior you yourself are displaying right now. Laugh, contribute, be silent, observe, disappear, come back I don't really care. But try and act your age at least, alright? I'm not trying to sound mean or imply, insult, or anything like that, I'm just asking you nicely to cease all of these negative remarks you keep making.

As for SoulVisions

I never thought you would be so Naive? Or is it you are just plain foolish..

You know, I know who you are and the other name titles you have used as well.

edit on 7-2-2012 by The Matrix Traveller because: (no reason given)

Look, I honest-to-god have no idea what you're talking about. You have called me stupid, naive, ignorant, a monkey, foolish, full of BS, and let's see, did I forget anything else you've said about me, or to other people posting here on this forum?

You state very clearly you "know" who I am. Also, that I have other names? Well, I'm really not sure how that's possible, but I suppose that you could ask a moderator if my IP had more than one account attached to it, as well as where in the world I'm posting from, but it's really not a secret. I only have one "name" that I'm using. One account. Also, I'm in New York City. You're making up certain things that you're saying. Everytime you do that though, you're going to be exposed as a liar. Why in the world are you doing this?

Now secondly, everything else aside here for a moment and in utter seriousnes, if you really "know" who I am, then you "know" that I absolutely can corroborate what I say here, and were I so inclined, could very well find out what I need to know about you. Again though, you knew this already? Honestly? Good grief, then why in the world are you trying to play these games with me? All this intelligence you likely possess and you're not using it right now.

I'm not threatening you, and nothing I've said to you or requested should me you feel this way. I only asked if you were going to continue in the discussion here, and if so, to just stop putting others down?

Obviously I haven't followed you outside of this forum to wherever you claim people are "world renowned" and supposedly carrying on this discussion with you. It's just observation here but it's an idea that's hard for me to grasp seeing as how the way you treat others around you wouldn't typically attract or encourage people to listen to you. Quite the opposite.

But hey, maybe you do have a following of people, okay that's great for you. I really mean it. It's just that, and I'm repeating myself here again but, I just find it hard to believe based solely upon how you act.

reply to post by The Matrix Traveller
hello Matrixvisions, welcome back.
Dont misunderstand me, after schematizing them as I understand them I have indicated in fact that there are no solid scientific proofs that these crafts exist already. However as an open mind I personaly, carefully evaluating all the informations received here and there and all the testimonies of people around the world I have the feeling deeply inside of me that they exist.
You have given us here a lot of blue-prints allowing me to start making a mind construct of how it should be to travel with one of those. Could you please go on with the description of the craft and especially the interfacing device which should allow us to travel with it without displacement, only I suppose by opening as needed these wormholes using the craft.

Tell you what, if Matrix has discontinued posting here because of me, I will right now promise to stay out of the discussion henceforth.

Matrix, you said nothing was going to stop you from completing this thread. Now's your chance. You have an audience. Act on it or pass it up, it's your call. But remember what I said earlier, because no matter how "private' a forum may be, you'll always find someone there that will make things "complicated."

Let us know what you'd like to do. Same as in regards to me. Every condition you desired just as when you first began.

reply to post by The Matrix Traveller


With respect
I would like to continue reading what you have to offer.
I do understand your frustration
Would it be possible to follow your posts elsewhere?

I'm absolutely fascinated by this and other posts by yourself
and I am sure many others here are also.

Thank you
JML

Originally posted by SoulVisions
reply to post by tigercat1971

 

I really appreciate you taking the time just to post something nice like that, Tigercat.

As for the "primates" thing: Yeah. But hey! Maybe that was the whole problem? Matrix's belief in his higher mind was so real to him, perhaps he really had left his humanity behind.

Most welcome.........look out though he's back with more gracious comments!

Click here for more information.

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I hope ATS will find ALL the other Names you use on ATS.

Multiple entities such as you have is against ATS Rules

You should be banned from ATS for life.

I am NOT against ATS as they have been very very good to me but they have overlooked your disgraceful behavior, and don't blame it on your drinking problems either.

You moron who lives in fantasies.

Answer to those who were interested in reading this thread..

But it is NOT me you have tried to destroy, but all those wanting to know, so Wallow in your pathetic Emptiness.

I always enjoyed ATS (for the last few years), but never came across a moron like you.

Yes you should realize by now.... I know who you are.

So quit trying to contact me, as I don't want to know you.

You stupid Fool.

I never thought you would be So Stupid to do this to yourself... I pity you.

You are pathetic.

I will lead the ones who are interested to this Forum.... Through ways you are unable to understand.

I am Now a Mediator in another "Forum" Where Idiots like you Don't exist...

WOW. When I read this I was just in awe.

You are something else. I have no idea who you think I am but you are WAY off. Please publicly announce this, I'm giving permission, as to who you believe I am. I really don't know what to say. I was offering you peace and even stepping out so you could go on "unhindered" by my presence since it bothers you so much.

no multiple accounts, no drinking problem (where did this come from?), I have no desire to contact you and have made no such efforts in the past

I offered you an olive branch and you return with more insults. I'm not really surprised, though. In regards to inflammatory comments and ATS membership? you're walking a thin line, I'm sure. Keep it up, buddy.

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I'm not sure whether to continue on this topic here, as a thread's already been created, or to just create a new one minus the fun comments of some forum members.

Originally posted by SoulVisions
WOW. When I read this I was just in awe.

You are something else. I have no idea who you think I am but you are WAY off. Please publicly announce this, I'm giving permission, as to who you believe I am. I really don't know what to say. I was offering you peace and even stepping out so you could go on "unhindered" by my presence since it bothers you so much.

no multiple accounts, no drinking problem (where did this come from?), I have no desire to contact you and have made no such efforts in the past

I offered you an olive branch and you return with more insults. I'm not really surprised, though. In regards to inflammatory comments and ATS membership? you're walking a thin line, I'm sure. Keep it up, buddy.

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I'm not sure whether to continue on this topic here, as a thread's already been created, or to just create a new one minus the fun comments of some forum members.

Bro, don't sweat it.

I was interested in this thread in the beginning until I asked him the question "What qualifications, degree, etc do you hold?" and he answered "None".

This guy has been taking us for a ride. Instead of continuing his thread he comes in here to post paragraphs of how we are all sheep, monkeys, primates, morons, etc. Why waste a post when you can post something relevant to your initial topic?

YOU even said it yourself that the information will come out. I officially call this dude a fraud but I will say it was an interesting read. Either he has a good imagination or he's plagiarizing another person's work.

My spider sense in tingling with this one.....weirdo alert or what!
Any interest or respect I had for this guys long since gone now......not sure why he keeps posting child-like rants, my suggestion.......up the dosage or jog on pal.

Soulvisions, don't waste your time......let it wash over, and let's get back on subject I'm sure like most children he'll get bored and leave when he realises noones reacting anymore! :-)

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I hear ya. No big deal.

As a side note, is anyone familiar with Craig Hogan? All this discussion on the "digital universe" and living in a Matrix... figured I'd throw this out there for discussion, as there are a few(?) with the Neo system structure of belief here.

I like to think maybe I'm wrong, and work backwards with things like this. Just curious why it'd never been brought up on these forums. It's like one of the "singular" proof so far of this system of beliefs. I know if someone caught an angel on camera, or something like that, it'd be all over the news.

Maybe the Matrix is too new a concept to really have caught on yet. I've seen arguments about when does the system reset then, if when people learn about computers and begin conjecturing about the Matrix... Thousands of years of war and farming, then when technology reaches a point, poof! Back to the stone age? Why do we see no Neos if people are able to really access the system?

--- Anyway.

I'm curious what people think the reasons are for the saucer, or triangle shape of most UFOs? Cigar shapes too, I realize, but not until a bit later. Interesting how it's the perfect shape (saucer, anyway) for what it does, but did anyone guess why?

The PRC, yes it's a nice site, MT. Every "conspiracy" site's tracked though if that means anything to you?

Originally posted by SoulVisions
reply to post by tigercat1971

 

I hear ya. No big deal.

As a side note, is anyone familiar with Craig Hogan? All this discussion on the "digital universe" and living in a Matrix... figured I'd throw this out there for discussion, as there are a few(?) with the Neo system structure of belief here.

I like to think maybe I'm wrong, and work backwards with things like this. Just curious why it'd never been brought up on these forums. It's like one of the "singular" proof so far of this system of beliefs. I know if someone caught an angel on camera, or something like that, it'd be all over the news.

Maybe the Matrix is too new a concept to really have caught on yet. I've seen arguments about when does the system reset then, if when people learn about computers and begin conjecturing about the Matrix... Thousands of years of war and farming, then when technology reaches a point, poof! Back to the stone age? Why do we see no Neos if people are able to really access the system?

--- Anyway.

I'm curious what people think the reasons are for the saucer, or triangle shape of most UFOs? Cigar shapes too, I realize, but not until a bit later. Interesting how it's the perfect shape (saucer, anyway) for what it does, but did anyone guess why?

I dont know too much about Craig Hogan and his theory of a matrix we should be living in. But one must realize that to understand properly where as a physicist he finds indices for his theory we need to get explanations which as much as possible make no use of physicists matters like the holographic universe theory deducted from the black holes entropy and the use of the string theories amongst other. The film matrix is easier to understand but doesnt relate the theory as I have read it.

As far as the multicellular living creatures are concerned, there is no doubt in my mind that their structural and functionnal nature is holographic. Indeed one cell contain all the informations necessary to replicate the whole living organism. Furthermore as Russian scientific researchs amongst others have shown the multicellular beeing is a biological computer where the cell is the basic unit and the ADN Helix is the emitter(EM stationnary wave field emitted when receiving a IR laser photon information) and the receptor (IR laser photon information exchanged between cells). Finally all work as if a light beeing is computed by the cells (processing informations exchanged trough their photon exchanges). In order to regulate their structural arrangements and their functionnal behaviours a quite powerfull EM field give the power necessary for all material processes (hearth beat, electrical field for tissue repairs, flowing of basic products in the cells..) The light beeing use all the DNA antenna for his computation that is to say that there is no such thing as 90 per cent of ADN which is not coding . Such light beeing should be directly linked to conciousness.
All this to say that finally there is a living matrix which gives at all times all the informations needed to each cell as well as to the light beeing which would then have a conscious Mind (imported or created thereby?) and unconscious Mind (genetic inherited plus life-emotions encoded behaviours ) Furthermore this living Matrix use where needed a powerfull 'ghost' EM field shaped where it is necessary in order to rearrange 'mechanically' the cells of the multicellular beeing.
To be frank I cannot make a bridge between this Living matrix and a two dimension universe we would be seeing in three dimension using informations from the two dimension universe.

My opinion concerning the shape of the UFO is based on the knowledge of structural best resisting shapes when different inner and outer pressures are applied on them (imply symetry, rounded shapes) . Easier flowing of an atmosphere on the hull imply also such shape and smooth surfaces but has no importance for travelling in the universe vacuum.

Wow. Just... wow. I started reading this thread, and was fascinated by the information Matrix Traveller was providing. He seemed like a highly advanced soul that was beyond all this "monkey business". Then, all of a sudden, he just seemed to go bonkers, and started sounding like middle-school kid saying the equivalent of "I know you are, but what am I?" Weird!

So, is he just a middle-school kid with some brains and a highly active imagination? Or is he the real deal? Or, is he both, with some kind of multiple personality disorder? It just seemed like he switched personalities on a dime. A highly advanced soul would have just ignored any troll-ers, I would have thought. Or maybe his spinal problem makes him irritable sometimes. Who knows?

Oh well, it was interesting while it lasted.

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I think the threads can go on this way for a long time. But has Matrix said we have almost everything we need in this topic if we combine it with other topics form him. My opinion is that Matrix is a very advanced Soul with physicist knowledges who plays a very subtil game of characters. He work with many ' collegues' in order to arrange questions and answers and he also establish a targeted reader psychology. All this in order to present his theory of a little universe which is, processed in 2D, and holographic. He can be right as this theory explain many mysteries we encounter in our daily life.
Having read other threads of Matrix, if I understand correctly, what is expected from us here is to go a step further in order to benefit from a direct application of his theory (reality creation) :

To believe in the existence of the flying craft on the basis of the 2D drawings
To study the 2D drawings in order to assimilate the object and the way it works and behave in our little universe in trough a 3D construct which will be processed by our Mind. At long this craft should constitute an usual material object in the little universe that we contemplate trough our brain.
This object if processed that way by enough people should very soon be part of the little Universe of some, without passing trough the costly and long stages of design and manufacturing. That should be the theory let us see if it works

This is awesome. The OP abandoned this thread or was offed by "men in black suits". BS meter just rose even higher.

Bumping for giggles.

Yeah, I dunno. He's an interesting fellow. He went on about his health and whatnot, but it raises doubts considering that he's taking a trip to Tibet. His wife and young ones wouldn't allow such an endeavor if he was in such a terrible condition. I checked on other things earlier and there's just a lot there that's self-aggrandizing.

I really wanted to continue this discussion too. Not sure if anyone here has further interest though.

In response to the other post just a little bit before, yes, it's an atmospheric thing, pressures, stable structure, safe re-entry, etc. Think- heat dissipation when spin is used in space to ground situations. Side note, also a perfect consolidation of space (but not necessary) in terms of budgeting. Also, the shape (if you draw it out for yourself you'll understand) when fields created are affixed onto a device of this shape, it actually creates a more even/perfectly shaped field when they are overlapped.

You guys here on ATS keep asking, "Why? Oh why haven't they just come out and used these already?" There's a number of reasons though. I thought everyone understood by now that if it was just "put out there" it'd pose a great risk, not just in terms of stolen tech, but financially. Our way of life is governed by the buying and selling of resources (power). Once you put into mass production devices or "aircraft" that use a system that doesn't depend on things like oil (for example), you put these corporations at risk. Getting to the point, releasing this out to the public would aid in our own breakdown of economy. Somewhat like putting a gun to our own head. Oh sure, money would be saved, but that's precisely what causes recessions I'm not sure how else to put it. Again, not my area of concern but I'm sure there's international support on this. Not every part used is "Made in U.S.A."

I promise you guys, there are some really awesome things in the works, it just takes time. Sometimes you find ways to improve on said innovations right by the time you're ready to use what you've just finished. And then the cycle just continues unless it's needed right then and there (focus being on "needed").

Originally posted by kaylaluv
Wow. Just... wow. I started reading this thread, and was fascinated by the information Matrix Traveller was providing. He seemed like a highly advanced soul that was beyond all this "monkey business". Then, all of a sudden, he just seemed to go bonkers, and started sounding like middle-school kid saying the equivalent of "I know you are, but what am I?" Weird!

So, is he just a middle-school kid with some brains and a highly active imagination? Or is he the real deal?:

No. He's a 62 year old man living in New Zealand with his family, though does tend to travel often enough. Buddhist wife, daughter, grandk... all that. Not a child by any physical definition.