"The Internal Working Components of One type of UFO".

The Structure of these Craft are derived from this "Partition Map" used in the "Processing System".



For those interested refer to my other thread,

www.abovetopsecret.com...
"Another Understanding/Interpretation of this Universe"

to get some basic understand regarding what I am about to reveal.

This "Partition Map" is the Heart of the "Processing System" responsible for the presentation of what you believe to be your reality (Universe) but is in fact nothing more than a highly Sophisticated Animation program you are experiencing.

reply to post by The Matrix Traveller

thank you very much for your confirmation of the dimensions of the parts I shall use in order to calculate exactly all the forces acting on the converter. Believe me, altough the principle used is simple to understand (a localized centrifugal force) the way this design work is not so simple to understand at first sight. But now I think I have understood the way all the water particles will move when your device make a full turn.
A lot of people have tried to create such an effect by transfering rotating weight (during a single rotation) of mechanical devices, from one inner position to an outer position (increase of R in the centrifugal force formula) but that doesn't work because the R increase you gave to the rotating weight is given back afterwards as the weight return back to his position afterwards (follow the trajectory of the weight along the axle and calculate the forces involved action vs reaction and it is compensated in a one turn rotation.
Here the principle is different as you increase localy the rotating mass in the same formula. Here as already pointed out I have to check by calculations what forces are acting on the converter when the weighy is added, when it is maintained and when it is removed and go back as still water in the sump. The balance of all this will determine the pull .
Thank you also for your informations concerning the rotator. Correct me if I am wrong but it must be an axial flow pump (low pressure as all axial pumps) with the particularity that the exit part of the blades must be fully radial in order for the water to exit the rotator to spin at the same angular speed as the wheels. That way I agree with you that the water will for sure captivate itself in way of the pad ( and so increase its tangential speed by a good contact with the tip of the wheel.
I must also check the cavitation problems in the rotator at high speed as well as the waterflow and check if the system doesn!t get entirely flooded (saturation) at high speed.

Looking further to your free energy piston engine I have some questions to ask. Your information relative to an extraordinary behavior of water as a dieletric when high voltage is applied is exact and some studies and applications are currently publicly carried out (rock fracturing, etc) However,
1: I have no idea if a mix of oxygen gaz with hydrogen gaz (in the perfect proportion for water) in a high pressure container (the piston) will be stable even with no ignition.
2/ at ignition an important heat is produced in the piston, I am wrong? , and water vapor could form there and impede the return of the piston rod (under influence of the atmospheric pressure which is only one bar.

thanks in advance

Patience is not a virtue normally attributed to most individuals. At least not when it comes to things like this.

I must admit, the designs put forward thus far raise a great deal of questions for me. As previously stated, I've some experience with these types of things but more than anything else, the connection to the interface leaves me dumbfounded. I completely understand the fiber optic requirement when certain forces are in play (and not using shielded wiring and controls-steering of all those motors by manpower?), the recycling of energy, startup process, and actually a few other things that, while not highlighted by anyone's comments or explained yet by you, become obvious as to what the shapes of things in your diagram most likely represent.

I AM surprised that you seem to understand certain fundamentals, and it makes me wonder, but I have to ask you this one question if you don't mind.

If "[interfacing with the universe]" allows for instant travel with no speed restrictions, as you've stated, what is the purpose of this "craft," with it's lift, motors, etc.; as it will be affected by the limitations of physics, or as you would say, the limitations of this universe's "program?" Why draw out a design for a craft with the capability to move around if it's only necessary to use the interface's console in order to travel light-years away?

I only ask because unless most members here are in the know, "rocket science" or space travel is commonly associated with the concept of being extremely difficult. A quick, simple reference is/are things as I brought up previously with the elasticity of the outer hull, radiation in space, etc. There are myriads of systems necessary.

I support your continuation of this thread to it's completion. I apologize for any interference the above question may have upon your efforts to stay on track.

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Thank you for taking the time to check this out I am sure you won't be disappointed.

Just remember I have NOT invented this, I must admit though it would have been nice if I had of... LOL.

Thank you also for your informations concerning the rotator. Correct me if I am wrong but it must be an axial flow pump (low pressure as all axial pumps) with the particularity that the exit part of the blades must be fully radial in order for the water to exit the rotator to spin at the same angular speed as the wheels.

Normally in axial pumps it is understood (theoretically), water passes between the blades but in this case it is far far different behaviour.

No water passes between the blades in this case as the blades are at right angles to the water.

Note; The trailing face of the 4 Blades is undercut at 45°.

What happens is, the water is dragged over the blade and onto this 45° face, on the trailing side of the blades and flows along this 45° face like an ultra hi speed capillary action.

By this design the loading on the Blades is purely the angular load produced through centrifugal force.
The "Disc" with the large Hole in it, that Water passes through, while sliding outward along the 45° faces acts as a non return valve.

The thickness of this water on this 45° is so thin it cant be seen with the human eye. Its velocity is extremely high so have to be careful with this. As you will find by your calculations if you understand this concept correctly.

When the Water exits the Tips of the Pre rotator Blades it goes into a very complex multi directional flow trying to travel both forward and backward. The Disc face prevents the Flow toward the Filling chamber which feeds the Pre Rotor .

The rear section of the Pre Rotator blades are responsible for Rotating the Mass. (water)

So the water can only Flow through the 36 cavities in the wheel. Once present in this region is delivered Centrifugally by the rotating wheel over 360° where the Water is Trapped between the Calliper Pads in that Sector only.

The amount of Mass (water) trapped in this area is determined by the amount of "Overlap" of the Pads.
This is how the base force is controlled mechanically.

But the acceleration and Velocity of the Craft is determined by the Program Control from the "Control Register" of the Main Program your Illusion of the Universe is generated through.

I will explain ALL of this in Complete Detail over the next few weeks if others will allow me to.

The same design as used in the Pre Rotator (Slightly different Configuration though but still on the same principals) should also be used in "Fan Jet" Engines this increases their efficiency many times (Yet to be Invented or discovered by aircraft engine designers) But this is another story for another time... LOL.

That way I agree with you that the water will for sure captivate itself in way of the pad ( and so increase its tangential speed by a good contact with the tip of the wheel.
I must also check the cavitation problems in the rotator at high speed as well as the waterflow and check if the system doesn!t get entirely flooded (saturation) at high speed.

Good luck I mean this in the Kindest way...

I understand the Water flow is uniform and NOT turbulent, and is Controlled by the nature of the Geometry, involved in the wheel cavities, (Wedged Shape) together with the Centrifugal nature taking into account that the water is understood to be as though Static in the wheel cavities with regard to its Angular velocity at the Inner region of the Wheel, loaded from the Pre Rotator synchronising between the Angular velocity of the Water in the output side of the Pre-Rotator and the Regions of the Inner wheels.

Looking further to your free energy piston engine I have some questions to ask. Your information relative to an extraordinary behavior of water as a dieletric when high voltage is applied is exact and some studies and applications are currently publicly carried out (rock fracturing, etc) However,
1: I have no idea if a mix of oxygen gaz with hydrogen gaz (in the perfect proportion for water) in a high pressure container (the piston) will be stable even with no ignition.

99.9999% pure water Must be used and strictly NO catalyst must be used.

The secret lies in the Dialectic in that only ONE of the (theoretical) Plates is Insulated.

In the case of the Engine it has a Cylinder liner (Ceramic; of the Insulating Type) The Piton is metallic.

2/ at ignition an important heat is produced in the piston, I am wrong?

This is only Half the Story.

This Engine runs Cold as energy flows to & fro as the Change takes place in the Water between a liquid state and Gaseous state.

One Piezoelectric Crystal applies the Potential across the Outer Cylinder (Metallic which I understand is a transparent type of Aluminium.

Not sure if such a mutated material exists on earth though) and the Piston which was an extremely Black material as though Carbon based .

It felt like carbon in my hands and like sort of slippery though perhaps Graphite in it.

and water vapor could form there and impede the return of the piston rod (under influence of the atmospheric pressure which is only one bar.

Sorry I can't help you I this I simply don't know.

I can show how these cylinder assemblies are assembled though, and why.

The "Film" of water between the Piston and Cylinder was probably about 0.005" / 0.006" by memory... or something like that. Sorry I can't be more accurate about this...

reply to post by SoulVisions


Thank you for your Post...

If "[interfacing with the universe]" allows for instant travel with no speed restrictions, as you've stated, what is the purpose of this "craft," with it's lift, motors, etc.; as it will be affected by the limitations of physics, or as you would say, the limitations of this universe's "program?" Why draw out a design for a craft with the capability to move around if it's only necessary to use the interface's console in order to travel light-years away?

It is purely for the "Experience" of what you call space travel and nothing else. LOL.

There are other systems which don't require a Craft to get you from "A" to "B" which I also experienced and know the workings of.

But by using these you miss out on the experience involving the Illusion of travelling through a Universe. LOL.

Existence in these Programs should be for Pleasure ..

I only ask because unless most members here are in the know, "rocket science" or space travel is commonly associated with the concept of being extremely difficult. A quick, simple reference is/are things as I brought up previously with the elasticity of the outer hull, radiation in space, etc. There are myriads of systems necessary.

Absolutely Correct and You have this Technology NOW.

No Need for me to reinvent the Wheel.

Well U know what I mean...

I support your continuation of this thread to it's completion. I apologize for any interference the above question may have upon your efforts to stay on track.

No problem at All as I have said I am willing to answer any Intelligent Questions and I am true to my word...

See through aluminum, the latest rage in metallurgy, again this proves that many things believed before where just our incomplete attempts trying to piece together a jigsaw puzzle with half of the pieces missing.

could that be the crystalline aluminum our "friends" have used for thousands of years?

more

in here

cheers! it will be us not them in their filthy thrones, forever trying to control what is free!

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Hell, I didn't know about this Aluminum on Earth.

Good find... Thank U so much for the Links...

Star 4 U...

If you are using piezoelectric materials to produce what energy you need to drive smaller engines or systems, a "relative frame" system on the "piston engine," could be suggested to squeeze more out in a smaller period of time... Diamond-state batteries would be optimal (is this even public yet? idk for sure) to keep the charging, capacity, and recharging optimal when little boosts are needed.

Speaking of "relative frames," what happens when the "craft" reaches the same inertia/speed (moving forward) as that of the centrifugal force that your engines use? Does everything break down at that point? It seems as though you would have a top speed unless greater amount of energy is spent to turn the engines.

Example: Standing on the back of a vehicle going 100/mph, and then throwing a fastball 100/mph away from the back of the vehicle. The ball drops straight down. I hope I'm making sense here.

Using a fiber-optic interface, please show this to me if/when you can (the "toy" one you have said you were creating a couple years ago?), I'm quite interested. While able to hold potentially terabytes of information, an optical computer (correct me if I'm wrong here) currently requires that you use silicon chipsets. Crystals (storage) are great for massive storage capacity but waaay too slow in terms of output (called "relaxation time"), and as far as I know, there's only a small group of people that fully understand how this works anyway. This particular area of "light" computing is not something I'm well-versed in. A fully realized computer with such capabilities would make even a 'Star Trek' teleporter possible, since then a person's entire "atomic/dna/other" could be stored and reassembled elsewhere. (well, days later. again, slow crystal)

The technology behind the interface is just as interesting as the system of movement you are proposing. I hope that you share your concepts on the workings of this "computer," as well.

Originally posted by Soapusmaximus
Can I just ask where you get this information?

And how would this account for the defiance of psychics genuine UFO's display?

I don't think you know where your going with this......

Nobody discovers information.

People unknowingly open themselves up to being able to see certain information. not sure how but that is how it works.

All this stuff we " discover" existed before we discovered it...so it and has and always will be right there for us to use and know...it's up to us to search for it and to let it flow through us.

people go about thinking the wrong way.

Originally posted by SoulVisions
If you are using piezoelectric materials to produce what energy you need to drive smaller engines or systems, a "relative frame" system on the "piston engine," could be suggested to squeeze more out in a smaller period of time... Diamond-state batteries would be optimal (is this even public yet? idk for sure) to keep the charging, capacity, and recharging optimal when little boosts are needed.

Speaking of "relative frames," what happens when the "craft" reaches the same inertia/speed (moving forward) as that of the centrifugal force that your engines use? Does everything break down at that point? It seems as though you would have a top speed unless greater amount of energy is spent to turn the engines.

Example: Standing on the back of a vehicle going 100/mph, and then throwing a fastball 100/mph away from the back of the vehicle. The ball drops straight down. I hope I'm making sense here.

Using a fiber-optic interface, please show this to me if/when you can (the "toy" one you have said you were creating a couple years ago?), I'm quite interested. While able to hold potentially terabytes of information, an optical computer (correct me if I'm wrong here) currently requires that you use silicon chipsets. Crystals (storage) are great for massive storage capacity but waaay too slow in terms of output (called "relaxation time"), and as far as I know, there's only a small group of people that fully understand how this works anyway. This particular area of "light" computing is not something I'm well-versed in. A fully realized computer with such capabilities would make even a 'Star Trek' teleporter possible, since then a person's entire "atomic/dna/other" could be stored and reassembled elsewhere. (well, days later. again, slow crystal)

The technology behind the interface is just as interesting as the system of movement you are proposing. I hope that you share your concepts on the workings of this "computer," as well.

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You are referring to the end "Illusion", you believe to be your reality, (your Universe) but the"Control" is NOT in that "ZONE".

The Control, (Acceleration and Velocity) involves Access to the Main Frame, Processing System which produces the Illusion you believe to be your reality or Universe.

The "Mechanical System" Alone, does NOT provide this.

This is NOT guess Work, so please be patient and I will reveal ALL.

If the Human Species new this technology, they wouldn't be playing around in Ignorance and would be using this Technology NOW.

So let's be patient and Watch.

Originally posted by LucidDreamer85

Originally posted by Soapusmaximus
Can I just ask where you get this information?

And how would this account for the defiance of psychics genuine UFO's display?

I don't think you know where your going with this......

Nobody discovers information.

People unknowingly open themselves up to being able to see certain information. not sure how but that is how it works.

All this stuff we " discover" existed before we discovered it...so it and has and always will be right there for us to use and know...it's up to us to search for it and to let it flow through us.

people go about thinking the wrong way.

BINGO

A Million Stars for You... LucidDreamer85

You can't be closer to the TRUTH, than what you have written Here.

You are at the Top of the Class....

Originally posted by The Matrix Traveller

The Control, (Acceleration and Velocity) involves Access to the Main Frame, Processing System which produces the Illusion you believe to be your reality or Universe.

The "Mechanical System" Alone, does NOT provide this.

A car with no instruction manual is just inviting an accident to occur. (mechanical flying craft with no way to steer)

Have read through your other threads so alright, let me ask in a different way, then. Is there any way to share/impart/transfer the knowledge that your higher consciousness is aware of (above the viewing of this "program" or "reality") directly to another's higher being (soul, as per your understanding)? Think higher level soul to soul information transfer. This in order to benefit/teach our "in-program" selves, as opposed to having to learn everything from the inside of the "program (our universe)?"

I don't know about others, but a Matrix movie way of gaining knowledge (plug in, download, now you know karate) down here on this level, or plane of existence/awareness/consciousness is quite the appealing notion. Plus, I'd still like to see the "fiber optic toy" you mentioned you've worked with others to create.

I'm being serious here. Your understanding of Life and such seem a tad avant-garde at times, but (and I am not calling you this) I have known brilliant minds at work in certain individuals that otherwise seem crazy, or even dangerous, to the casual observer.

I am listening though. I openly invite any free gifts of technological knowledge from the higher beings (or aliens, again in your terms) that could be given me. But if this alien communication never comes to fruition for me in the way that you say it has for you, the benefit of doubt is the least I can give you, respectfully. As before, you still have my attention.

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I am listening though. I openly invite any free gifts of technological knowledge from the higher beings (or aliens, again in your terms) that could be given me. But if this alien communication never comes to fruition for me in the way that you say it has for you, the benefit of doubt is the least I can give you, respectfully. As before, you still have my attention.

Its NOT a matter of Alien or Human. You are alien to those, you refer to as Alien ???

As Both these.... Your Flesh and the Alien are Program.

It is the True Mind ("Awareness" of LIFE) which is All knowing.

Your flesh knows Nothing at all, just like my Flesh.

There is NO higher or Lower beings, as it is NOT the being who is Living...

It is only "LIFE" which is Alive, this is why we call it LIFE.

"LIFE" is the ONLY LIVING ONE

The Primate (your Flesh) or Alien is just that, an alien or Primate NOT LIFE.

The Higher & Lower belief is a human thingy...

YOUR "Outer Mind" Contains the ALL in Libraries of The Soul (the "Soul" being a Religious term) or "Construct" that is just One of so many "Partitions" of the ONE Largest "Construct" they can't be numbered.

What was referred to as the Soul ( a religious term) some 2,000 years ago, is actually a "Machine" or Computer... YOU (referring to LIFE) dwell in.

The real YOU is LIFE and NOT your Flesh or anything else for that matter.

This LIFE (The Real YOU) Dwells in the Soul or Construct.

The "Inner Mind" in this case the Centre of your Mind, i.e. "Awareness" or LIFE has NO Size or Shape and therefore is Non Dimensional.

It is Your "Outer Mind" which Controls your Experience (NOT you "Inner Mind") while the other end that is to say your "Inner End", is looking and experiencing what your "Outer Mind" presents to You.

There are 2 main programs which interact...

a. The "Environmental Program"
and
b. The "Species Program". In your case your so called flesh and bone.

Both these exist in Your "Construct" you refer to as the Soul. (A religious Term).

But YOUR "Outer" Mind is ALL knowing...

This is the case for ALL "Partitions" of the One Mind. There is NO other.

It is Impossible to use this "Technology" if this is NOT understood.

The "Interfaces" I have mention Consist of Animation type Programs, involving the Language of the Mind (Geometry) that are used in the "Communication" between The "Inner & "Outer" Mind which is Controlling YOU....

Do you understand now?

hello matrix traveller. I am quite puzzled by the characteristics of the pre rotator which you describe as a device able to feed the system at low pressure, high water flow with a laminar flowing system involving also an ondular mode of progression of the water. I will study that.
However as I found trough a lot of topics here and your other threads that you are very knowlmedgeable in the creative power of our LIFE (other call it conciousness or mind or even hearth feelings I think) I will evoque here another part of my learning activities which involve here "do the best for beeing in good health and even reverse aging". You have related your health problems prevously affecting your " human container". What do you think of this video from Greg Braden whereby it is shown that the reality of sickness in this universe can be reversed by the feeling that we are cured. I refer to a video showing 3 chinese "cure feelers emitting a hearth generated field of good health state" while a tumor on the bladder of a woman disappear on a screen of an ultrasonic device in less than 3 minutes. I have only seen one of these "transformed reality " phenomena but I found also in china that they use the system a lot to try to cure people (laugh cures,etc)
Do you confirm this is so easy to achieve and in such a case why are you not using this power of LIFE to transform the reality of your health problems into a reality of youg healthy state ?

Originally posted by The Matrix Traveller
Do you understand now?

I do actually. Most seemed to be semantic and labeling errors on my part, with a couple misunderstandings of concepts you are proposing too of course but, yes I understand now.

My question regarding a "soul to soul" transfer of information was in regards to your comments in your other thread stating our "souls" (the older style, anyway) being like jellyfish without tentacles, looking down onto a latticework of geometric shapes underneath them, essentially putting their awareness inside the latticework program much in the way a person might sit and watch a television (sort of). This had led me to think that perhaps there was a method of communication between one "jellyfish" to the next.

Originally posted by The Matrix TravellerThe Soul or old style Souls I was shown look like a jelly-fish without tentacles and is constructed of Light and on the underside of all souls is a latticework made of lines, octagons and squares.

The True Mind dwells in the Nucleus of the Soul and looks down through the base to view the program being watched or interacted with.

A chart showing the levels of systems you are proposing in a vertical hierarchy, showing where the "Inner" and "Outer" Minds reside in relation to these systems/partitions/programs, would make things clearer for MANY people I think. Perhaps this line of questioning, now that it's reached this point, would best be addressed in the other thread. Still, now that this is understood, it's evident now that learning to use this interface (which uses geometry rather than words) would require years of study to essentially learn "a new language" (where ideas and concepts are represented by shapes).

Understanding this now, though I reserve questions on how certain things work (the mechanical aspects of creating an interface) as per my previous comments, I eagerly await further technical information regarding the vehicle that will allow me to "enjoy the illusion of traveling through the universe."

Originally posted by DUSA922
Do you confirm this is so easy to achieve and in such a case why are you not using this power of LIFE to transform the reality of your health problems into a reality of a younger healthy state ?

I hope he doesn't feel that we are being condescending with our questions. I would imagine what you are suggesting would involve not just the being able to "access the knowledge of the One Mind" but also being able to reprogram somehow the "species program" that his "inner mind" is currently within. Like hacking from the inside out. This would require so much more than just accessing information. It would be like warping reality from our perspective.

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A billion Stars 4 U SoulVisions

You have understood me 100%

You can't understand me more accurately, than you do at this point in time, and I thank you for your efforts, which will enable Communication between us.

Welcome to The REAL World of "Mind Technologies" or "Technologies" produced by LIFE.


I just hope I have Not been too condescending in my applied methods of Communication. LOL.

It was not my intention to put you down, but give a you jolt in order for my understanding to connect with you.

I don't want to change you but merely provide that connection between us that will allow me to communicate with you.

I know I sound condescending at times, but is for good reasons mainly to sober one up, to connect with me...

At the end of the Day It is My understanding I am attempting to share, often without regard for myself.

But at the Same time I am NOT wanting others to believe or disbelieve follow or NOT Follow my line of thought.

I don't want a world Full of clones of myself !

That would be totally boring... LOL.

I desire others to retain their own Understanding but at the same time Understand my Concepts also, so I am then able to share those things in their True Context, which I have experienced.

This is NOT a groupy, cult, religion, any other type of Group or other human nonsense.

Often the Species (NOT YOU) is too "Superstitious" and too "Suspicious", passing on these undesirable traits to their offspring, thinking they are somehow protecting them, but this is the very disease that oppresses society as a whole.

Regarding my Health (Spinal) and Old age is just the "Story" I am experiencing at present (gift?).

When one picks up a book to read it, do they change the contents of the book before reading it ??? LOL.

You see what I am saying ??? LOL

I am experiencing a Program book called xxxxxx xxxxxxx (i.e. the person or "Human Primate" known as "The Matrix Traveller" to others.

Everything has a reason and it is just the processes involved with the "Species" that often prevents us from understanding the reasons or purpose of this world.

These "Interfaces are very, very, very, very simple to understand, but I have to communicate this knowledge through the way I am in order for others to comprehend.

I have Chosen to use the knowledge of these little craft to Demonstrate one of the uses for these Visual Communication processes involving the "Outer Mind" to Control the behavior of the Contents of a Program in this case what many believe to be their Reality or Universe.

Our Experience i.e this Universe takes place INSIDE our Own Construct and everyone has their own copy.

But each have a different "Species Program" (body) that interacts with a common (copy of) the "Environmental Program" referred to as this Universe.

It is the other way around and Science on Earth has yet to discover and understand this FACT.

So the Changes producing Galactic Space travel, actually takes place within the "Processing Construct" and NOT a Inside a 3D Universe as understood today through the human Species.

What we experience is displayed in our "Field of Vision" the Universe does NOT exist separately as though our field of vision is inside a Universe.

Is just that these Programs are so well done, they make us believe we are Inside a 3D universe as meant to, when in fact we are NOT.

reply to post by DUSA922

Thank you for your Post...

Yes fully aware...

But does a person change the "Contents" of a Book before reading it?

NO.

If we don't Like the Book we put it back and Find another... LOL.

But we also Write Books to...

Can you follow my Wisdom?

Suffering is part of the Processes that Invokes "The Metamorphosis" of the Processing Construct.

This Program (Earth) is the Program that Invokes "The Metamorphosis" of the "Processing Construct".

It has NO other purpose.

I hope this clarifies things a little.

Please excuse me for a couple of Days, as I have some Important work to do.

But fear NOT I Shall be back in 2, or at the very most 3 Days.

I want to Complete this work here on ATS ASAP...

My question to you is how did you came out with this explanation? I could not understand nothing of it, but still, reading your post it let me to believe that you either have one crazy imagination, or your buddy is Bod Lazzard.

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Take the time to read his previous posts, he already has explained this over and over again...