Ahmadinejad Says Iran Is Ready for Nuclear Talks

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Thursday became the latest and most senior member of the Iranian government to publicly declare his readiness for nuclear talks amid tough new economic sanctions adopted by the United States and Europe in recent weeks.

Some Western diplomats have viewed Iran’s latest public offers of negotiations as an effort to buy time, allowing the country to enrich more uranium as talks get under way.

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Interesting turn of events. What do you think?

This is somewhat of a relief, even though he might just be playing games and buying time remember what happened with North Korea so off and on.

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Talking is good , considering the other options.
The US could still prepare for the worst during the talks, nothing needs to be lost.

Lol, the spin in your title and that of the New York Times is pretty blatent

I will just like to ensure readers get the true gist of what ImaDinnerJacket actually said.

"Iran is willing to talk". Indeed they have never changed that position, it has always been the US that was not willing to talk!

Now the US is ready to talk to Iran because they have no option they spin it round 180 degrees.

I bet many on this board can't even see how subtle they do it, but I know mamy can see it.

Anyways, just thought I would throw that out there.

war with iran seems inevitable. the only saving grace i see would be if they developed free energy and gave up nuclear technology all together. then I think war could be averted, but as it stands if your living in iran get out while you still can................................

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I hope they do talk for the children of EArth deserve better especially the seemed to be forgotten in the 3rd worlds children. So 1 hopes the talks work. The energy generated from a WAR will project into the cosmos and the reflections returned MAY NOT BE WHAT ANY* WANT FROM THE WEST TO THE EAST North and South of EA, UM JUST SAYEN!!!!! IMAGINE A FARMER/EArth inhabitant designer SEEING the LIVESTOCK GOING INSANE WHAT WOULD THE FARMER DO????????????? Maybe put down the livestock that is INFECTED WITH ERROR?! like mad cow disease or bird flu ect I think SOME of you get it

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This pathetic and sad excuse for a human being is just foxing. Watch out for this extremist. He only does what the "all pee & wind" Ayatollah tells him to do.

It's all a ruse do not believe it.

Ahmadinejad the little man with little man syndrome! A little wimp who hides behind an army! All talk! Stop his nuclear madness!

Really?

I'm not bashing any other country, but...

Iran is accused for not talking, and accused for talking?

If they don't want to talk, it's because they are developing nuclear weapons and don't want any control over them. If they do wanna talk, then it's because they want to buy time to develop nuclear weapons.

Seriously, someone needs to fire the retarded folks who handle foreign policy.

Iran is just biding its time to move the chess pieces into play thats all this is. Do you honestly think they care about talks?

As far as the evil USA goes, well, we're just doing what we've always done...its called poke the rabid animal with a stick until it wakes up and bites us. We did it to Germany after WW I, to Japan before we entered WW II, to Iraq War #1 and afterwards leading up to Iraq War #2.....

Its what america does....piss people off and cut them off from the money flow so that they have no choice but to lash out once cornered economically. Hate to say it....but America is the new roman empire of old....and just like history to repeat itself.....it'll fall much the same way.

In reality another war would be a huge gamble considering the time and money spent. It would have been cheaper just to go balls out and rolled over both countries Patton style. At least then all we'd have to deal with is the aftermath of whoopsie with all of the collateral damage.

Face it...America now and days are a buncha pussies, and the other nations are starting to see the weakness.....like a shark on a fish in distress they smell blood. Iran can't do it alone...Russia and China know this.....and technically..if it comes down to rounds, Iran will not be alone in this fight. Sadly....Europe may not have the resources to help (like they ever did really) and Isreal being the lone partner in crime wouldn't stand long due to location.

Obama is in over his head....this is a huge game of chicken, and while we have the bigger SUV with the madmax bumper and matching roll bars....we can't turn out of the way as quickly as Iran can.

I know, I know...."America is badass with all the tech and capable missles...blah blah blah" HISTORY friends is what its all about......and if you know history...you'll realize you don't need much to make a bully back off. This country aint as capable as you think when it comes down to brass tacks. I see a war with Iran coming down to a senerio that america would cringe at fighting...because it would mean many cassualties on our side....and theirs.

Still no matter, they have home field advantage.........home team usually wins. History says so....with a couple of exceptions......Germany and Japan in WW II being that.

Originally posted by phatpackage
reply to post by Hithe Merinos

 

This pathetic and sad excuse for a human being is just foxing. Watch out for this extremist. He only does what the "all pee & wind" Ayatollah tells him to do.

That pathetic and sad excuse for a human has as much right to live as you do, or anyone for that matter. Murderer and wishing death is wrong, and it's not just because your azz is sitting in a western country, or in an anti-Iran country that makes it right. You are as wrong as he is if you have that kind of mentality.

It's all a ruse do not believe it.

Yes, because all governments, except Iran, have a clear policy of transparency and honesty, right?

Ahmadinejad the little man with little man syndrome! A little wimp who hides behind an army! All talk! Stop his nuclear madness!

Well, his army where he "hides behind" actually received orders to not touch any student protesters, for example.

You see, you might not like Iran, but they actually function, and very well may I add.

Sure, they have problems, and there is a fair dose of some regime brutality regarding some of their own social issues. But if you would actually know what you are talking about, you would have known what types of mentality are present in that area.

Any intelligent person would want the US to be allied with Iran, since Iran is actually the most westernized country of that whole area. And I say this, because "western" principles is not about eating at McDonalds and buying american SUV's like Saudi Arabia or whatnot.

Although the wrong way sometimes, western countries try to portray liberty for the individual and equal opportunities. If you go to an american ALLY like Saudi Arabia, you won't see women walk freely or even breathing freely. But you do in Iran.

Ironic isn't it?

Iran has a long way to go before becoming a semi-decent country, but by comparison to it's neighbors, Iran should be protected and built up to be a beacon to the rest of the Middle East.

Instead, it's on the #1 spot to get buttraped by the USA and other western powers.

And by the way, his "nuclear madness" is in line with the same type of thought as any self-sustainable country would think, if they were smart.

He is seeking energy independency. Which is as important as being a "democracy" (AKA selling out to the West). They aren't morons, they know that the hole they have on the ground isn't going to give oil forever. And right now, Iran's only true source of funds comes from oil trade.

They don't want to stop, they even have plans to nearly empty the damn thing. But they want nuclear power so they can power their whole country without oil, so they have more oil to sell, make more profit, and then invest it into industries that pay off on the long-therm, high-tech industries.

Iran actually has dreams, good dreams. The same kind that the US had that enabled it to become the great nation it is (nation, not government). They want to be independent, educated and evolved, and they have a task twice as hard since they are swimming in Islamic extremists.

They have a lot of abroad students, in the best universities around the world, so they can learn and bring back that knowledge inside their country and help develop it.

It was reported in ATS a few weeks ago the nuclear fuel rods issue, and how Iran made statements on how it wishes to become a safe supplier of "nuclear fuel" for other nations and markets.

So, basicly Iran wants to cut on oil (remember all that "green" crap talk in the west?) and promote more efficient energy sources, while making profit, while developing it's own country and making efforts into having better standards of living.

Yet I see ignorant people like you vomiting this propaganda all the time... Sad really.

That is going to be the biggest mistake he ever make, Ahmadinejad should know by now that the corporate dictatorship of the US will bomb his nation to the stone age, will kill their citizens and erase their cities this has been planned for the last two decades and it will be done.

The only way he can stop the annihilation of their nation is to come public and tell the rest of the world that they have enough nuclear power to turn the entire earth into Armageddon.

That is the way his country will be save.

The Geopolitical wars that where planned in the US for control of oil in foreign lands to stop flow and manipulate prices are an ongoing agenda and Iran is the last pristine available sources that the US corporate dictatorship has no control over yet..

Because is never and has never been about making oil available and plentiful is about controlling flow an availability for profits.

If Iran and Iraq were allow to make oil plentiful we will not be paying what we pay for oil at the pump in the US and US will no have control of forecasting oil futures for maximum profits.

Originally posted by Hithe Merinos
What do you think?

I don't believe anything Ahmadinejad says .. that's what I think. But Obama will buy into it and fall into whatever scheme Ahmadinejad has cooking. That's the kind of 'community organizer' he is.

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The only way he can stop the annihilation of their nation is to come public and tell the rest of the world that they have enough nuclear power to turn the entire earth into Armageddon.

That is the way his country will be save. 

So basically you are saying he should lie.

Wait, aren't we tired of that in the west?

The Geopolitical wars that where planned in the US for control of oil in foreign lands to stop flow and manipulate prices are an ongoing agenda and Iran is the last pristine available sources that the US corporate dictatorship has no control over yet..

Because is never and has never been about making oil available and plentiful is about controlling flow an availability for profits.

Actually, no...

The US isn't trying to control oil sources to maintain high rates of profit. They are dominating the oil sources in order to keep the prices low. Oil is the most demanded resource on Earth, if it was up to the supplier to dictate it's value upon selling it (to countries who don't have oil deposits) they would charge it as high as diamonds or gold.

Especially since it's a finite resource, and non-renewable.

US attempts to keep an open market, with the price of oil as low as humanly possible, so they can keep buying and selling it.

Can you imagine an economy like the US having to pay 5 dollars for a liter of gas?

What they are doing is wrong, point given and I agree. We shouldn't have this kind of wars, especially disguising them as fights for values like freedom. But to think that the US does this for any reason other than to keep the prices low, is unrealistic.

If Iran and Iraq were allow to make oil plentiful we will not be paying what we pay for oil at the pump in the US and US will no have control of forecasting oil futures for maximum profits. 

Again, you are assuming that the suppliers would sell oil cheap. They wouldn't .

reply to post by Tifozi


Learn the history of oil and wars.

Originally posted by FlyersFan
But Obama will buy into it and fall into whatever scheme Ahmadinejad has cooking. That's the kind of 'community organizer' he is.

Obama is a community organizer.
RP is a Doctor.
Mitt is a Corporate Raider.
Newt is a "Speaker"

None of these guys make actual decisions, they listen to Military Advisors, and command on the recommendations they make.

LOL Obama is basically listening to people he should listen too, the Military.

Too late for that.


The bomb is built, people will pay for that crime with death.




That in no way means I agree with it all. It's the truth however.

Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13
reply to post by Hithe Merinos

 

I hope they do talk for the children of EArth deserve better especially the seemed to be forgotten in the 3rd worlds children. So 1 hopes the talks work. The energy generated from a WAR will project into the cosmos and the reflections returned MAY NOT BE WHAT ANY* WANT FROM THE WEST TO THE EAST North and South of EA, UM JUST SAYEN!!!!! IMAGINE A FARMER/EArth inhabitant designer SEEING the LIVESTOCK GOING INSANE WHAT WOULD THE FARMER DO????????????? Maybe put down the livestock that is INFECTED WITH ERROR?! like mad cow disease or bird flu ect I think SOME of you get it

edit on 1/26/12 by Ophiuchus 13 because: (no reason given)

Um.No I don't

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I agree, the option of war is being propped up so the Israeli government will hump it to death like a crazed dog, all the while the "threat" of war is making some people allot of money in the markets. It's all a ploy to create a crisis so as to control market trends.

There will be no war with Iran.
There is no need for a war with Iran.
If so there is a greater threat RIGHT NOW and that is North Korea, Yet, we have no carriers there. Why?
Because they are not trying to supersede the Dollar as trade settlement currency.
The almighty dollar, that's all. Not a threat to global security.
Period.

Originally posted by truthinfact

The bomb is built, people will pay for that crime with death

I have been trying to follow this closely, but work, wife and life, I may have missed something.
Can you prove your above quote, its huge.

Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by Tifozi

 

Learn the history of oil and wars.

I have. And I actually agree with you. Just not on the details I mentioned above, which you didn't even refute with a reply.

You basically say that the US wants to control the oil flow to control the prices and maintain them pretty high. Well, that's not true.

Access to a resource makes it more or less valuable. That's why, like I said earlier, diamonds and gold are valuable resources. They are high on demand and low on supply, and hard to reach and mine.

Same with oil. It's not any fool that can do the modern oil extraction, especially in oceans for instance. It is a valuable resource, and everything you do to make it more available or increase it's supply to the economy (starting in the refineries), LOWERS it's price (value).

Why do you think that when there are problems in the Middle East, and oil supply or access is cut down or denied, the prices skyrocket? It's because the world demand for oil is so great, that any drop in supply means it's value increases immediately.

Again, I reenforce that I do agree with you in principle or general terms. I do not like this type of policy, nor the oil cartels, nor the way it's explored or distributed. But I think your arguments to defend such a stand are incorrect, or misguided. That's not the same as calling the US a saint country, though.

Regards