WWIII - USS Enterprise, a dying Legend to be the FALSE FLAG !! ??

Originally posted by the2010apprentice
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War and violence is for Goofballs !!! Agreed ??

Very well paid "goofballs" and very underpaid "victims" (soldiers and collateral damage)

Originally posted by SrWingCommander

Iran might actually take a crack at it (or might get fed up and shoot not even knowing which carrier they are getting)....of cuorse then it's automatically a false flag.

edit on 25-1-2012 by SrWingCommander because: ship info on Enterprise/

Iran isn't going to have a crack at it. It is all bluff and bluster by the hard liners for the sake of the Iranian populace.Very much like Gaddaffi and his line of death in the Gulf of Sidra during the 1980s. If an Iranian Revolutionary Guard fanatic unit was to have a crack at the vessel then it would be exactly as it is a stupid idiotic attack of their own planning.

For the hard-liner fanatics in Iran - Revolutionary Guards - some of them will have already lost face by having the Task Force enter the Gulf. They will be itching to create an incident with a US or Coalition unit at any given chance if they can. For example a US or Coaliton boarding party on a vessel being monitored. The Revolutionary Guards need that sort of publicity and hype for the populace and to regain face. The US/Coaliton will be especially careful of small boarding units going out without cover and full force protection. Even the Iranians are not that stupid as to directly attack a major US or Coaliton vessel such as a carrier.

Originally posted by AlanQaida
That is a great video definitely sharing it!! However if the carrier is used as a false flag, I just hope all the servicemen and women are able to be taken off ship safely, but I guess that would ruin the shock value wouldn't it

They gave the opportunity to evacuate the twin towers after all (to an extent). Perhaps there will be some sort of "abandon ship" drill and the sailors will be prepared to evacuate.

I served in the NAVY for 10 years. I sure hope that the video is wrong. There is nothing worse than the feeling that you and your shipmates are in arms way.

Originally posted by SrWingCommander
So, let's take this summer's new movie trailer, "BATTLESHIP" and turn it into early false flag predictions. Because this is the trailer from the movie, based on the board game..

Even if the Big E is sunk in the gulf, that doens't mean it necessarily is a false flag....course that doesn't mean it isn't either.

Enterprise is currently the "surge" carrier ready to sail, and will do one more cruise this year before retirement.

Officially, any warship is american soil. If the USS Enterprise is attacked, it would prompt a declaration of war. I wonder if Obama would get congress permission this time.

Originally posted by Screwed
Yup, looks pretty plausible to me.
Only problem is,
Now there is this well produced video out there calling out EXACTLY what they plan to do
which has generated God knows how much discussion.....

This is why is MUST get beyond the ATS and alternate news circle. EVERYONE should be made aware of the significance of this deployment.

Not to fool anyone though, I am not even sure of the percentage of population who have any idea whatsoever about the situation in the middle east "sigh"

Originally posted by tommyjo
Seriously guys, get out more! Do you honestly think that such a plan has been foiled by a YT video? Pure coincidence that a vessel is about to retire and is completing a deployment. It is like saying that the US Navy sent F-14 Tomcats on a last Persian Gulf deployment in order to be expendable and create a 'false flag'. To some people every breathing minute is a conspiracy!

What conspiracy will you guys come up with when the carrier exits the Gulf without incident? Will it be 'US/NATO/Illuminati' foiled again

I suppose that it was also pure coincidence that the retrofit of the World Trade Center complex was $100,000,000.00 to get rid of the asbestos and that the insurance on the complex (taken weeks before 911) was 3,500,000,000.00 in case of a terrorist attack (In this case, two plans, two attacks) and the payout to the "new" investor was $7,000,000,000.00

When you can see a poker game unfold, the way the play unfolds are usually not that unpredictable.

Originally posted by Glargod

Originally posted by SrWingCommander
So, let's take this summer's new movie trailer, "BATTLESHIP" and turn it into early false flag predictions. Because this is the trailer from the movie, based on the board game..

Even if the Big E is sunk in the gulf, that doens't mean it necessarily is a false flag....course that doesn't mean it isn't either.

Enterprise is currently the "surge" carrier ready to sail, and will do one more cruise this year before retirement.

Officially, any warship is american soil. If the USS Enterprise is attacked, it would prompt a declaration of war. I wonder if Obama would get congress permission this time.

No, I think you missunderstood me. I was saying if the Big E is attacked, that it could be just an attack, and not a false flag (by the US or Isreal), just because we have a cheezy movietrailer used (probably without permission) and Brit narrator saying as such doesn't actually mean should the event happen that it is a true, "generated" false flag.

Also, maybe I am misunderstanding something you typed. there is no automatic decleration of war just because a ship is attacked (USS Stark, USS Cole, USS Liberty, no wars there, I also think U boats had attacked US destroyers prior to 41 during the convoy war with no war being declared...have to check on that.) there probably would be a call to action, resolution, decleration....but it's not automatic or even certain (well with our current state of tension, it's pretty much certain).

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This wreaks of anti-American, anti-Israel (anti-semetic) propaganda.

This strikes me as something created for and planted on the Internet by Iran or Iranian operatives or sympathizers; Or, perhaps its the product of a fanatical Bigot with too much time on their hands and happens to have the software and some stock footage at hand.

It's far more likely I'm right than that the conspiracy created out of thin air on the video is correct. I think these idea's are being spread throughout the Internet in response to the sanctions imposed recently on Iran.

All we are actually seeing is Iran chest thumping for internal consumption while knowing full well they have no true intention of triggering a conflict. They are facing a population that has turned against them and who are longing for a real Democracy with real elected leaders, instead of the fake President operating under the Dictatorial Theocracy. This stuff is to generate fear of the Free Western World in their population. That and to play into the hands of those who hate America and more importantly to those who share their hatred of Jews and desire to eliminate them and the West from the planet.

This is very much reminiscent of the propaganda machine of the former Soviet Union.

Every time somebody passes gas in the vicinity of Iran or an Iranian mouthpiece spews their hate, we get a new round of this nonsense.

The only thing we are going to see unless Iran foolishly does launch a first strike against Israel or any Western target, is surgical strikes like we have seen recently. The chances of Obama or Israel entering into a direct conflict with Iran are remote to say the least. The chance that these false flag idea's have any validity are even more remote in my opinion.

There have been constant predictions of an attack or war with Iran being imminent for many years now. This highly imaginative bit of fiction about a "false flag" is presented with absolutely zero evidence that it is anything other than either propaganda from Iran or simply the product of a paranoid imagination.

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Holy crap... are you serious? This is paranoia at its worst. There is no way the U.S. is going to blow up its ship in order to start a war. Do you know what kind of fallout that would have on our national property? And I doubt it will leave that kind of weaponry lying around for someone else to blow up either.

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I posted something about that a week or so ago. It's unlikely that the US will use a false flag while the whole world is watching.

My Uncle Larry served aboard the Enterprise.
Ill forward this to him...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a 'false flag' is supposedly a faked attack on a state or its military, by that same state. e.g. the idea that the US government or covert forces deliberately attacked the World Trade Centre in 2001. The USS Enterprise being attacked by Iranian military forces is not a false flag. That's just normal warfare.

Originally posted by Magnificient
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I posted something about that a week or so ago. It's unlikely that the US will use a false flag while the whole world is watching.

Supposedly that's what they did on 11th September 2001. But actually, I agree. Real conspiracies take place out of sight, not in broad daylight.

With these false flags, they sometimes like to put the scenarios in movies.
www.youtube.com...
Just saying. Wasnt there a lot of hints of what was going to go down on sep 11th in other older movies and tv shows. Like the simpsons.

Originally posted by Glargod

Take the 9/11 BS to the appropriate forum. It is not relevant to the discussion.

Well, if this actually happens, and half the planes are in the air conducting "war games," we'll know what really went down.

The interesting thing about these "false-flag" accusations is that the proponents of them cannot possibly lose. If The Enterprise were to get itself sunk, or even attacked, the proponent can say,

"See! I told you this would happen!"

It doesn't matter of it wasn't a false flag. If it were a real attack the proponent can still claim it wasn't and that it was all covered up.

But here's the beauty of it all.l If it DOESN'T happen, then the proponent can still claim victory because by his efforts everyone was informed, so TPTB called it all off!

Isn't that cool? If it happens, you win. If it doesn't happen, you win.

Incidentally, there's already a thread on this that beat you by a day.

Ships at sea will become virtually sitting ducks in any war whether their demise comes during a sneak attack or during the continuation of one. As aircraft in WWII showed that ships were no longer the dominate machines of war (whether used against onshore targets or other ships) so munitions that fall out of the sky from various kinds of missiles, orbital weapons platforms or lobbed from standoff aircraft will doom ships to early retirements one way or another. The days of sea-going ships are number. That means they are expendible for a "good" cause.

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I have to agree, if that youtube video goes viral worldwide, it can hardly be used for a false flag attack.

I still think however that there will be a major event taking place around middle of this year that will leave the globe in total shock. Not sure what it could be yet or whether or not it's related to Iran or a natural disaster.