Strongest solar storm since 2005 hitting Earth. Is this what beached the 90 whales in NZ yesterday?

The solar flare occurred at about 11 pm EST Sunday and will hit Earth with three different effects at three different times. The biggest issue is radiation, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Space Weather Prediction Center in Colorado. The radiation is mostly a concern for satellite disruptions and astronauts in space. It can cause communication problems for polar-traveling airplanes, said space weather center physicist Doug Biesecker. Read more: www.news.com.au...

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90 Whales Thread

They do use electromagnetic fields to navigate don't they?

But it has now emerged the huge mammals may use a combination of the sun's position, Earth's magnetism and even star maps to guide their journeys, which can up 10,000 miles long. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk...

Radiation from Sunday's flare arrived at Earth an hour later and will likely continue through Wednesday. Levels are considered strong but other storms have been more severe. There are two higher levels of radiation on NOAA's storm scale - severe and extreme - Biesecker said. Still, this storm is the strongest for radiation since May 2005. Read more: www.news.com.au...

I wonder if there is a correlation between these CME types and the Bird fish and Whale deaths we have been seeing.

Yours is a good theory, but I think it happened too early. The estimated time of arrival for earth is today/tomorrow. It will be interesting to see if more odd things happen. Have you looked into 2005 to see if this happened with whales or dolphins during the last heavy period of cmes?

reply to post by Shirak


Correction.

Largest radiation storm since 2006, not 2005.

And no I don't see how it relates to whales beaching, since it hasn't even arrived yet.

reply to post by timetothink


It is estimated is a certain energy type hitting the earth of interest to the satellite crowd. It is my understanding different energy spectrum travel at faster speeds. Light faster than radio etc.
As to the timing I wonder if there was a proton pressure wave which was instant at the time of the CME.

Then, finally the coronal mass ejection - that's the plasma from the sun itself - hits. Usually that travels at about two or three million kilometres per hour, but this storm is particularly speedy and is shooting out at six million kilometres per hour, Biesecker said. It's the plasma that causes much of the noticeable problems on Earth, such as electrical grid outages. In 1989, a solar storm caused a massive blackout in Quebec. It can also pull the northern lights further south. Read more: www.news.com.au...

They may be referring to the plasma hitting Wednesday. The light and other faster waves would have already hit?

reply to post by timetothink


A magnetic storm was expected all weekend and there were threads end of last week, it hit last night. Cyclones struck Alabama in the night. Apparently these whales got beeched. Anyway a M9 class flare/cme is also coming, and due tomorrow.

Apparently the photon count is higher than just before Fukushima.

Hopefully this is not a little foreshadowing......of a 8+ on that monster of a subduction zone down under.

Just curious...why couldn't have this theory have been added to the countless threads that already exist on ATS about this (I think there are eight now)...you just added beached whales OP...nothing more...so why not add this to an existing thread?



Here are some:


www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread801073/pg1

www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread800736/pg1

reply to post by radpetey


Aus? Yeah they are predicting 400ml in the next few days. There was I am of the opinion that it is not a far stretch to consider the sun as a source of weather phenomenon and wildlife reactions.

www.youtube.com...




Live updates on flares....enjoy

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Check out my post before this one...link to live updates.

reply to post by jerryznv


This thread is not about whether a sunspot or cme has happened. This thread was created to discuss the possibility of a correlation between these two events and beached wales.

If you think that you need to be a moderator perhaps you should apply.
If you would like to discuss this thread then please contribute and stop flaming your frustrations as it is adding nothing to this discussion but a distraction thank you.

I feel horrible after reading your theories OP...

You may be right as nature seems so much more intune than man or his technologies. I am so sorry to hear about the whales...

Beached whales,huh?

Any naval exercises happening around that area?

Any relation to the real,not the fake sounds heard around the world?

Magnetic properties of the seafloor changing?

CME ,no, I don't think that is what is going on with the whales.

I would search it out for you,but after working 18 hours,it's just not going to happen.
But I at least tried to offer up some other possible theories.

Just pondering.

This makes me very sad. Last week 20 dolphins(possibly more) were found dead in Cape
www.cnn.com...
Very weird!

With the exception of Japan Nuclear waste being way to far north and extra whaling boats in the Japanese fleet the fact that the whales are alive would indicate a navigation error or perhaps something else.

Rescuers in New Zealand have refloated 40 whales which were part of a pod of about 100 which became stranded at the top of the South Island yesterday.

The fact that they were able to get some them going again might allow one to rule out a mass sickness. There is historically a long history of mass beaching back to the time of Aristotle. Before mass pollution and sonar. What is the constant? The sun and the reliability that CMEs will occur throughout time.

Ok,one more.

Joseph L. Kirschvink, of the California Institute of Technology, has plotted the hundreds of beachings of whales and dolphins along the U.S. east coast. He finds that these cetaceans tend to run aground at spots where the earth's magnetic field is diminished by the local magnetic fields of rocks. These coastal magnetic lows are at the ends of long, continuous channels of magnetic minima that run for great distances along the ocean floors. Kirschvink believes that the stranded whales and dolphins were using these magnetic troughs for navigation and failed to see the stop sign at the beaches and ran aground. The mag-netic troughs in this view are superhighways for animals equipped with a magnetic sense. If Kirschvink's theory is correct, the magnetic sensors of the whales and dolphins are extremely sensitive, because the deepest magnetic troughs are only about 4% weaker than the background magnetic field. Magnetite crystals have been found in birds, fish, and insects, where they are thought to contribute to a magnetic sense of some sort. So far, no magnetite has shown up in whales and dolphins.

www.science-frontiers.com...

I would also check into the seismic activity close to the time of the beachings in and around the general area.

Originally posted by Shirak
reply to post by jerryznv

 

This thread is not about whether a sunspot or cme has happened. This thread was created to discuss the possibility of a correlation between these two events and beached wales.

If you think that you need to be a moderator perhaps you should apply.
If you would like to discuss this thread then please contribute and stop flaming your frustrations as it is adding nothing to this discussion but a distraction thank you.

I love the idea of correlation...but causation...I am a bit stumped there!

As far as being a moderator...not a chance...just curious about another thread on the already clearly established solar flare...and why it is to blame for anything!

Frustrating sure...I feel you...as this is about the tenth thread attributed to this "new' solar flare causing some kind of chaos on earth!

No such evidence has yet to be forthcoming!

As to adding to this thread...well I linked other threads that discuss this new CME and simply implied...or questioned...why this could not be added...let me again emphasize that this is a nice correlation...but certainly not causation!

Attack and flaming....not hardly...just a question!

Carry on!

Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by Shirak

 

Correction.

Largest radiation storm since 2006, not 2005.

And no I don't see how it relates to whales beaching, since it hasn't even arrived yet.

.According to NOAA, this is the strongest solar radiation storm since May 2005, and as a precaution, polar flights on Earth are expected to be re-routed within the next few hours, Kathy Sullivan, deputy administrator of NOAA, said today at the 92nd annual American Meteorological Society meeting in New Orleans, La.

www.space.com...

So are you saying NOAA is wrong? Or are the words largest and strongest the key words in question?

So are you saying NOAA is wrong? Or are the words largest and strongest the key words in question?

BlackPhoenix

What is your point there?