Following New EU Sanctions, Iran Says Closing The Strait Of Hormuz Is Now Its Legal Right

IF there is going to be hostilities over this, let it be after Iran closes the waterway.

And let it have broad international and regional support.

If Iran wants war, let them provoke it, and the retaliation should be all or nothing... Theirs will certainly be.

You can destroy much of Iran's military defensive/offensive capabilities rather quickly, but what can be done to eliminate the proxy terrorist threats?

Either way, we're stepping onto a landmine here.

Just posted, and then closed by a mod, pointing to this thread

"Iran 'definitely' closing Strait of Hormuz over EU oil embargo"

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Closed thread has a link to the article.

Did not want to post it here, since I did not start the thread.

(I guess if you find it interesting, star the OP of that thread)

reply to post by TheMindWar


Let's get something straight; the EU embargo is in accordance with UN resolutions.
The US placed it's own independant embargo on Iran way back in 1995!

From what I understand the sanctions mean on going contracts can be continued until 1 july,but no one is allowed to bid for new contracts.So Iran will instantly lose money,especially with the gold and silver trade embargo as well.

Heres a question-
What if Iran wishes to move an oil tanker through the strait to say North Korea or China-Will the west allow them to do that,or would they be prevented from moving the oil?

reply to post by Ophiuchus 13


"ANGELS ?)
bounded @ the
Euphrates river
are freed."

Angels,,, no they were not "ANGELS"
plotters and followers,
lustful fornicators,
followers after themselves,
looking upon the image of God,
and weeping with desire !
Having forgot there place,
and aliegience,
they broke there vows,
all!
And following there,
Leader,
the great
bringer of light?
No,,
A false light it was/is, and always will be !
For he too is cursed by GOD !

For in his pity, for Man,
was hidden
within his own heart,
not only a failure too trust in
the Word of God,
But a desire too overcome,
the very Word of God !
And One fell from the Throne of God,
not by the Hand of God,
But by a Rebelious Heart,and a lust also,,
A lust for the Throne of Man.
For Truly it is said,
"If i can not rule in heaven,
the i will rule the earth"
Forgetting Who Created Who and What!
From Whom does the Word need to Bow?
None i say, for before there was light!
There WAS the WORD!
And the Word was given unto Man!

So get over it!

Me.

And yes they would be set free ONLY !
if it is indeed the Day Of The Opening of the Secret Books.

Me.

reply to post by Freeborn


Iran probably wishes that they did have a nuclear weapon right now. Because this is what happens if you dont have them.

The once who have WMD walk all over you, because without them you have no rights. As you your self proclaim your personal opinion on what rights Iran should have.

reply to post by spy66


I state an opinion....I don't impose that opinion, a massive difference my friend.

And I said I feel 'uneasy' at the prospect of Iran having nuclear weapons, does that negate their 'right' to have them?

However, Iran is a signature of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
en.wikipedia.org...

Yet as someone correctly pointed out, the US has consistently refused to enter into any constructive negotiations with Iran and I'm sure I recall the US Ambassador to the UN childishly walking out when Ahmadinejad addressed the UN Assembly.

I am more than aware that the blame does not sit solely at the feet of any one government, nation or organisation.

reply to post by BobAthome


[color=gold]
Or if somehow an attack occured that destroyed the 3rd of man. It seems busy aroundd that area so???? As far as the timing of the Great book I watch for ath Euphrates to some how be dried--- to know accuracy BobAthome. I am not fear mongering as the fear is already in play. I am more less alerting that there is data on this beleived by some or not. And I find it strange that there is tension in that region...

REV16:12
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared


16:13
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

16:14
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

Originally posted by Silcone Synapse

Is the strait in "international waters?"

No it is not - though there is a transit agreement 'Right of innocent passage'.
en.wikipedia.org...
www.liveleak.com...

They have every right in the world to close down traffic on Iranian waters?!?! I thought they were closing traffic on international watersw from the way USA has been towards them, but no D They are doing nothing wrong, and USA is starting a war once again? JESUS CHRIST i am not religious but i cannot come up with anything more appropriate, that would adhere to the T&C

reply to post by varikonniemi


Iran are effectively being baited by the same global cartel who did the same in Iraq.
And do not believe the crap the media and politicians spout about these sanctions being peaceful-Its the path to war,because sanctions are part of a warplan-what better way to make an enemy start using up their stockpiled resourses than sanctions.
Weaken your enemy on all fronts before you strike them...straight outta "the art of war."

reply to post by Ophiuchus 13


REV16:12
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
"And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared"

Already fulfilled by the 12 Stones.
During Moses.

Me.

We are watching a precarious moment here and can only hope that cooler heads and the wisdom of those who are suppose to be governing will prevail in this case.

Iran has the capacity to make things very difficult for all those around the world striking 2 fold. The first is that they could try to close the water way, the Straits of Hormuez, in an attempt to cause more economic strife for the rest of the world. They appear to be moving in that direction, as they seek to approach the negotiation table from a point of strength.

The other aspect is that they could just stop producing and shipping oil, thus adding to the problems, no oil, means that the world supply would drop and the demand would raise up, causing the gas prices to skyrocket up, and put a real pinch on the world and especially the USA and the EU. The combination of both, pretty much gives them an initial advantage at this stage of the game, as they sit back and watch.

Iran's going to keep pushing and pushing .... :shk:

Seriously .. spend the money and build a freak'n pipeline and avoid control-freak Iran and it's temper tantrums. It'll cost a bunch and it'll drive the price of oil up, but the world can't afford to have Iran shut down the strait because 1/5 of the oil goes through it.

Originally posted by BobAthome
reply to post by Ophiuchus 13

 

REV16:12
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
"And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared"

Already fulfilled by the 12 Stones.
During Moses.

Me.

Can you post the Moses Data please related because I thought it would take a more HEATED energy to dry it?? Hence my concern with nuclear war potentials burning/drying and glassing things

Originally posted by FlyersFan
Iran's going to keep pushing and pushing .... :shk:

Seriously .. spend the money and build a freak'n pipeline and avoid control-freak Iran and it's temper tantrums. It'll cost a bunch and it'll drive the price of oil up, but the world can't afford to have Iran shut down the strait because 1/5 of the oil goes through it.

It's Iran that is subject to sanctions.

Iran that is having it's assets frozen.

Iran that is having an embargo on it's Banking.

How is it that you think Iran is doing the pushing ??

Explain..

Cosmic..

Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13

Originally posted by BobAthome
reply to post by Ophiuchus 13

 

REV16:12
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
"And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared"

Already fulfilled by the 12 Stones.
During Moses.

Me.

Can you post the Moses Data please related because I thought it would take a more HEATED energy to dry it?? Hence my concern with nuclear war potentials burning/drying and glassing things

edit on 1/23/12 by Ophiuchus 13 because: (no reason given)

AH HA.....I see the bible thumping aspect of it now.....
This is the next round of your crusades isnt it.

Seriously, could you please start your crusade thread somewhere in the religion forum, and not cloud this thread.

Thanks in advance for you compassion (or lack of it....its up to you)

Originally posted by FlyersFan
Iran's going to keep pushing and pushing .... :shk:

And so is the west and Israel... Only question is... Who will be first to push too far?

reply to post by Ophiuchus 13


Please stop! This is not a thread about religion, if you think there's a connection between Iran and bible 'predictions' make a thread about it and stop derailing this one

reply to post by Ophiuchus 13

Along time ago i stopped doing work for other people.
I'm retired,,
But if so concerned ,, look at "12 Tribes" what were there FLAGS
and take it from there.

me.