‎Is "Conspiracy Theory" Healthy? How much is too much? "The Coming Alien Deception".

‎Is "Conspiracy Theory" Healthy? How much is too much?

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approx: Aug. 2008.- I believe with all of my heart that I was shown ~some things~ and I can no longer keep quiet. To me, NOT having the chance to tell YOU, my Family, my Friends and Neighbors is far, far worse than being criticised, laughed at or written off as a religious nut. I am not worried or fearful of what others think because I love the Truth and Fear God more. If you have the power of "Discernment" then you will know the truth, when you hear it. This isn`t going to take very long because I won`t go into detail...unless asked.

‎Let me start by saying, `Good Morning`to all ya`ll, I hope your day is fruitful and filled with peace. I am writing this off the top of my head so please bear with me. Never having had the chance to say "I Love you", when it counted is heart-breaking and sad. Something many of us can totally relate to. Some of us even manage to get "stuck" because they didn`t get the chance to say I Love you, thank you for loving me in return. So I say it now. I Love you guys and I always will. This is not a good-bye, I`m not `that`dramatic! It just is...what it is.
A shared vision.

‎It is seemingly early evening because there are people everywhere, out and about just going on about their business. There is a spectacle in the sky above. Many are frozen in their tracks with their faces fixed upon the heavens. Many are curious and feel free to guess as to what it could be. The first instinct is to find shelter and take cover because there can be no certainty as to how much danger we are in... if at all. No one has any answers and the only "ones" who are NOT afraid...are few and far between. Once immediate shelter has been found, I`m talking under steps and in basements, basically wherever. People are scattered and there is an overwhelming feeling to get away, even though you know, it will do no good.

‎Suffice it to say, it continues a little on into the immediate afterlife...the real life. And no, It is not my intention to scare the pants outta anyone. Where was I ...oh right, people were hiding, scrambling, some...not all, were screaming, but yes, I heard the voices of grown men! Searching for loved ones in desperation. Some people were totally freaking out man, I mean wow, I felt sorry for them and I wanted to stop and help them find their kids if I could. But of course I had my own concerns. Something that struck me as odd was that my senses and awareness appeared to be at an all time high. Other than elevated levels of adrenaline and obvious panic and fear. It was like, a "telepathic window" had been opened. Suddenly, we just knew something was definitely up, that "Time" if you will,...was up.

‎There was a thick, heavy atmosphere of confusion. Things were happening that people as a whole, were just not prepared for. There was little time for contemplation, but not much. It was getting dark outside really fast and at times things seemed to be happening in fast forward. At least during the intervals. There was "a calm before the storm", "Before" the SHTFan, like increased major sightings. I mean out right crafts flying over your house. There were often sightings of three or more in formation. Armadas visible to the naked eye. There were so many sightings on some evenings that it "almost" became commonplace. And that, even though people tried to make a report of what they were seeing...there was no one to take their information down. By that I mean the Governments of the world were just too busy or not available. But like I said,... them's the details.

‎Now, I saw people gathered together in the basements of apartment buildings. In every group there was at least someone who had tried to take charge of the situation. Trying to bring some kind of assurance and comfort. Anyone that came near was greeted with fear and hostility. At first I thought there may have still been electricity, but...after having some time to reflect,...I had the idea that we were afraid to use it, for fear that we might be discovered. There were beams of light being projected onto the ground in searchlight patterns. Actual creatures out and about looking into windows. These "beings" were real and NOT human. Although I was shown many different types of craft...I was only shown "one" of the creatures up close and personal. I had the impression that they could change. Technology wise...we are prehistoric. And maybe I'll just leave it at that.

‎So, in closing I would like very much to add that there is a good reason for me not mentioning the parts about people crying out to GOD for salvation and mercy because what I saw concerning this really frightened me. Many, entered into the presence of GOD still in rebellion and full of excuses. Being a Christian is not an "easy path" to take, I don't think it's supposed to be easy. "I myself" am still a work in progress in this area, and believe now more than ever before in the importance of living life JOYFULLY and not just "well". This is not just another cautionary tale, (because I don't want anyone to have to suffer) as it is an opportunity to ask you, "Will you choose Life?"! Shaking my head. With a peaceful smile on my face I can and will, tell you, that as long as you draw breath, there IS hope. This beautiful life we were given has been taken by many, reconstructed and used for purposes that are against GOD's WILL. This simply cannot be allowed to continue.

‎So, let us "help" each other to stay grounded and be ready. Let us "try" to reach out to even those who tell you to "get lost because there is no god!". One of the coolest things I love about JESUS is that He "ALWAYS", told the truth and He led by example. If there is a coming war...I want to be on The Right Side! Don't you? =)

It's okay guys, no, my cheese did not slip off my cracker. There's no need to call in the white coats, haha,....Yet.
Seriously though, I think it's important to "check ourselves" to make sure just how much of this "earthly stuff" do we subscribe to. Regardless of "what we've seen". (I was referring to the actual encounter we had as children one Autumn evening out on that farmers' feild back in 1979. Which, by the way, was not a dream.) Not all dreams come from GOD, sometimes a dream... is just a dream, sometimes you could be under attack and not even know it..=) Later peeps.
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All of these current "political & social Issues" we are having today can become a distraction and a heavy burden to bear. They are "meaningless", King Solomon had Knowledge and Wisdom and even he made mistakes. So , I ask you...with all that is going on the world today, fear of war, economic collapse, mysterious objects heading our way, hidden population control, fema camps, the NWO, the Illuminati, fear of terrorism, obvious satanic agenda, media bombardment, child abuse, murder, corporate greed, suppression of medical breakthroughs, the discoveries of energy sustainability, unemployment, chemtrails, poverty, homelessness, same sex marriage, theories of all kinds including evolution, migration, relativity, you name it, UFO's, alien disclosure and the overall mis-trust of our fellow man. Just to name a few.

Is conspiracy theory healthy and how much is too much... ?

reply to post by alilonthecheekyside


Depends on how you define "healthy" i guess. If you define it as having a "life" in this old world order we are currently prisoners of, and are doing your best to fit in and be a happy sheep/drone like you should, then i guess it is not healthy.

If you on the other hand have seen through the charade, know that you and everyone else deserves better, and strives to be a vehicle of change for a better future, then i guess getting this knowledge is only the first step to awakening.

reply to post by NeoVain


Why sir, thank you for the comfortable laugh that I enjoyed.

Dare I say...you are a promoter of Peace?

reply to post by NeoVain


With all the "goings on", how can anyone NOT ask if our sanities are being "chipped away at"?!

Keeping track of all the conspiracies doesn't bother me. I'm a mom, multi tasking is my job! it actually helps me keep sane and happy to have theories as to why the world is as dysfunctional as it is despite all the good hardworking, honest people I've met in it. Otherwise it doesn't make sense that in nearly every endeavor, humans show such an overwhelming propensity for chaos and destruction. It all seems to run counter to Darwin's theories.

But I don't think this topic is going to stay here much longer. As I'm posting this, it is in Fragile Earth and it doesn't seem to really fit. So please don't be offended if you find it moved. It might be a good thing if it is because that is a very interesting dream or vision being shared and could merit further discussion. It sounds a lot like scenes from "War of the Worlds", the Tom Cruise version. This is not the first time I've heard something like this. I don't know if it is the proliferation of weird sounds around the world or what, but a lot of people these days seem to think something is going to happen of this nature.

Originally posted by alilonthecheekyside
reply to post by NeoVain

 

Why sir, thank you for the comfortable laugh that I enjoyed.

Dare I say...you are a promoter of Peace?

Peace is only a small part of it. There are a lot of things that needs to change before we can see true peace. Nowhere in this old world order is true peace possible to attain currently. No musts, no forcefulness, no opinions to worry about, those are only a few of the prerequisites to find true peace. Peace, of mind.

But I don't think this topic is going to stay here much longer. As I'm posting this, it is in Fragile Earth and it doesn't seem to really fit. So please don't be offended if you find it moved. It might be a good thing if it is because that is a very interesting dream or vision being shared and could merit further discussion. It sounds a lot like scenes from "War of the Worlds", the Tom Cruise version. This is not the first time I've heard something like this. I don't know if it is the proliferation of weird sounds around the world or what, but a lot of people these days seem to think something is going to happen of this nature.

reply to post by SheeplFlavoredAgain


I agree, most definitely, but there didn't seem to be a "fragile mind" category...

Yeah, by the time I had realized , where it was, well it was too late!

I would welcome "a move". Long as it isn't out the door.


Alot of people are going to actually be "gathering" on "that infamous date". I was contacted by someone on youtube who informed me that they had two locations picked out in London, England. They would be waiting for the aliens, rather "will be" waiting. I can't tell you how wrong this feels to me that they shouldn't be doing that but whatcha gonna do...they are determined and some are convinced that they've actually been "chosen"...!

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THE GRAY AREA...Not what I would've chosen! Did they even read the thread?

I guess "Conspiracy" is a "touchy subject" here on ATS...

Originally posted by alilonthecheekyside
reply to post by alilonthecheekyside

 

THE GRAY AREA...Not what I would've chosen! Did they even read the thread?

Yeah I'm surprised, there is a predictions and prophesies forum and that's where I expected this to end up. But Gray Area gets a lot of participation, so it's not a bad place to end up.

I agree, I would NOT want to be among those gathered. Even if I were single and childless, and petless, for that matter, and therefore free to follow my whims without incurring risk or loss to anyone else, the last place common sense would tell me to be during a significant happening is smack dab in the middle of a large crowd. Have we not seen how quickly crowds can turn into mindless destructive mobs? Besides, I saw what happened to those doofuses greeting the aliens on the roof in the movie "Independence Day".

From my Christian standpoint, Jesus said if someone tells you I am over here or over there, disregard them. I figure God is the only thing I'm waiting to see at this point and he knows where to find me if he wants to fetch me. Other than that, who else might be coming to get me? Aliens? Well, sorry, until I know they aren't here to core out my innards, I'm staying out of sight and out of mind! The government and Project Bluebeam? Do Not Want...I've seen a Lady Gaga video, that's enough of a show for me. I want less government, not more, and certainly not one that spends my hard earned tax money on a special effects extravaganza to sell me on a one world government or some such thing.

But I know these are hard economic times and for many, hard social times, too. People feel powerless to effect change for themselves. They want to feel they can be delivered by a benevolent power or a great ascension type of scenario. I wish for their sake they could be right but I feel in my heart deliverance comes from within. Even I, who would hope to meet Jesus if he decides to return in my lifetime, am content to work on my character and personal growth and leave ascension as the post mortem step a lot of people believe it to be.

I don't know if it's because I've been exposed to so many conspiracy theories but I had an end of the world dream of my own. Mine was nice though, probably because in my core I have an optimistic bent. I won't relate it because I don't think it is the least bit prophetic and is just wishful thinking.

reply to post by SheeplFlavoredAgain

Thank you so much for your reply, it is muchly appreciated!

Yeah I'm surprised, there is a predictions and prophesies forum and that's where I expected this to end up. But Gray Area gets a lot of participation, so it's not a bad place to end up.

~Does it Really? Uhm, okay.

the last place common sense would tell me to be during a significant happening is smack dab in the middle of a large crowd. Have we not seen how quickly crowds can turn into mindless destructive mobs? Besides, I saw what happened to those doofuses greeting the aliens on the roof in the movie "Independence Day".

~Exactly!!!

From my Christian standpoint, Jesus said if someone tells you I am over here or over there, disregard them. I figure God is the only thing I'm waiting to see at this point and he knows where to find me if he wants to fetch me. Other than that, who else might be coming to get me? Aliens? Well, sorry, until I know they aren't here to core out my innards, I'm staying out of sight and out of mind!

~Meee too!!! By the way, did I mention that the guy who informed me about the London gathering thinks he is both Jesus and the Anti-Christ because he has formations growing ON HIS FACE!? Wow, poor guy.

They want to feel they can be delivered by a benevolent power or a great ascension type of scenario. I wish for their sake they could be right but I feel in my heart deliverance comes from within.

~From a Christian Standpoint - they CAN be delivered by a Most Beneveolent Power, the "only" place where True Power exists...GOD. Through Our Lord Jesus Christ, of course!

~It's just really so sad and awful that Many are looking for answers in all the wrong places!


~~~~~~~~~~~~Alien Worship - Is a Sin-ful Sign Of The Times.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
We should be Very concerned for those that are on this path. The mere "suggestion" that GOD is an Alien, is blasphemous. It opens one up and makes room for so much more!

Yes it's unhealthy.

Getting into a conspiracy theory requires sort of a reconditioning of the mind since MOST conspiracy theories are based on speculations, assumptions etc..etc.

Only by tying together a bunch of otherwise speculative and non-proven, coincedential etc. things MOST conspiracy theories are actually created in the first place...and this needs a certain mind-set to even get you "there" to accept a theory as "true" in all his aspects and "sub-theories".

Example: For an alien coverup-conspiracy or a "9/11 was fake" conspiracy..you would need countless other smaller "conspiracies" so the main conspiracy can be explained because it otherwise would need leave too many holes open.

(I hope you understand what i mean?)

And this way of thinking and "getting into" is dangerous because it is like creating another reality based on assumptions, speculations...and it makes the mind suspicable for all kinds of things which defy logic, common sense etc. since you simply pull out another theory to explain what OTHERWISE wouldn't make any sense.

This is VERY CLOSE to a mental illness where people create a fake reality and "in itself" for them the new reality is "plausible" because all the other aspects are always explained with other, speculations and theories.

And while you create your fake reality where the non-sensical things become true..you lose track of whatever is "real"..or you simply become blind and lose the ability to use common sense, or to ask basic questions etc..

Another problem is that people who strongly believe in a theory (and this INCLUDES religious beliefs!) are often very hard to convince they are wrong - because their EGO doesn't permit them to admit they are wrong or fell for lies. This is probably the reason some hardcore c. theorists can not be convinced by common sense arguments since the belief for them more has become a religion than anything else which needs to be "defended" simply because of pride and ego and inability to admit they are wrong.

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Wow, Hi there! Thanks for your interest.......U get a cookie, uhhh, I mean star.

Your words began to """"FLOW like MUSIC!"""".....

UNTIL, I got to the word...suspicable...

Oh, yes & the pscho-babble about religion.

~~~~~~~~~~~Peace & Love~~~~~~~~~~
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Essentially you are trying to say that there will be a "harvest" event - where the aliens return to Earth with their beam ships, harvesting human bodies much like we process cattle. Because, in ancient times, I guess, no-one knew exactly where people "went" they assumed that it was some form of "ascention" when really, they were teleport beams from a spaceship.

If it is a "positive" harvest, then I guess it will be some kind of "global awakening" and those left behind were too "dense" to be beamed up (or "ascended"). If it is a "negative" harvest then it will be seen for what it is, with the "New World Government" organised and in place to pick up the pieces and restore soceity.

Hello All

I am a new found Christian. I love fantasy and alien movies, horror, etc. I have never had such dreams of attacks and such. I love zombie movies more I guess and i believe I will myself to have zombie dreams. But let me get to my vision. After my enlightenment of being saved in September of last year, I have been getting visions of what God wants people to be aware of.

UFOs will make an appearance the world over. The government will be part of some deception with them. I am currently seeking more understanding of what the deception would be. My guess is that they will claim to make us and try to exclude God from creation. That will be false. So no matter what they would come up with do not be fooled. God created us.

reply to post by flexy123


I understand what you mean. I do cringe when I see some members treating the many theories on ATS as absolute proven truths and allowing themselves to get very upset and distraught about certain theories. I'm well aware of the dangers you are outlining: My mom had a short schizophrenic break from reality once which thankfully got cured by the much maligned big pharma and excuse me, the grace of God in prayer according to our family's beliefs and FAITH. (You can think that faith in God is misplaced and misguided, that is okay, I understand. In my personal journey I've asked God to reveal his existence in my life and he has, so on that account I feel I'm not betraying reason and logic according to my personal standards.)

Anyway, I have seen enough to make me cautious of manifestations of zealotry. I weigh all of the theories and examine all of the evidence pro and con, and make no conclusions on the vast majority of them. I am content with not knowing for certain, for example, that 9-11 was an inside job. I always say there is nothing wrong with saying "I simply do not know" if you've put in the effort to study something and can still not honestly be swayed to one conclusion or another. I think it helps lend more credence to the things you do believe in, if you can be that objective and rational about your conclusions, or lack thereof!

I use the theories as a vague guideline for how I should vote, what I should consume or avoid, where I should go, but I do not take them as absolute truths that have final say on the important decisions of my life. I am aware nearly every conspiracy is a fragile house of cards that could blow over at any time, and if one did, it would not bother me in the least, for I've not invested one bit of my being in unconditionally supporting any of them.

I do think this site is a bit tricky for younger people under their late 20's. They have not been through enough life experience in many cases to develop a healthy detachment to some of the subjects. But I say that with some hesitation because it is a generalization and as such, there are many exceptions whom I would not wish to offend. But in general, it's been the younger people I've seen get the most upset and invested in the subject matter.

reply to post by odinson


Welcome to the Christian family. As a former horror movie aficionado, let me immediately rain on your parade and give you a bit of warning about the movies. Whether you are a newly minted Christian or one who has been on the path many years, keep in mind there is an evil out there that is extremely jealous of your relationship with God and will take every opportunity to undermine it. So with that in mind, be careful how you feed your mind. The images you fill it with can and will be used against you at some point, or so my personal experience has shown me. Take that as you would any unsolicited advice. . And may God bless you!

As for your warning, I will take heed. It sounds like a perfectly reasonable warning to heed whether one believes in divinely inspired visions or not, whether one is Christian or not. We have enough THEORIES out there like the one about Project Blue Beam that should leaving us questioning anything of a spectacular worldwide paranormal nature.

Originally posted by SheeplFlavoredAgain
reply to post by odinson

 

Welcome to the Christian family. As a former horror movie aficionado, let me immediately rain on your parade and give you a bit of warning about the movies. Whether you are a newly minted Christian or one who has been on the path many years, keep in mind there is an evil out there that is extremely jealous of your relationship with God and will take every opportunity to undermine it. So with that in mind, be careful how you feed your mind. The images you fill it with can and will be used against you at some point, or so my personal experience has shown me. Take that as you would any unsolicited advice.

. And may God bless you!

As for your warning, I will take heed. It sounds like a perfectly reasonable warning to heed whether one believes in divinely inspired visions or not, whether one is Christian or not. We have enough THEORIES out there like the one about Project Blue Beam that should leaving us questioning anything of a spectacular worldwide paranormal nature.

Cool! Good to meet as many Christians as possible in these times! I have been on the path since last September. God has me in His plans to step up when the time comes. He has shown me things that would cement our beliefs and has given me warnings!

This is the year my friend! Remember, when the time comes to mark off your property with prayer and seek more Christians later. There is strength in numbers!

God Bless

Originally posted by SystemResistor
Essentially you are trying to say that there will be a "harvest" event - where the aliens return to Earth with their beam ships, harvesting human bodies much like we process cattle.

~~Keep in mind that Throughout ALL of this...I was under the impression that these events which I was witness to were "Not" what they seemed to be! That if "anyone" willingly participated in this event, they would not be happy AT ALL with their subsequent "destination"!

If it is a "positive" harvest, then I guess it will be some kind of "global awakening" and those left behind were too "dense" to be beamed up (or "ascended"). If it is a "negative" harvest then it will be seen for what it is, with the "New World Government" organised and in place to pick up the pieces and restore soceity.

~~~There is NO IF about it, the coming "Delusion" is exactly that...A Delusion! Given to man by GOD Himself! It is something in which "most of the people" actually want and look forward to. Which is why it will be so "easy" for them to believe it...the lie.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~2 Thessalonians 2~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Cred where cred is due...enduringword.com-DavidGuzik

There is no end to gathering information and rabbit hole runs deeper and deeper. There does come a point when enough is enough - it is a mistake to compare knowledge to wisdom - Knowledge is the first step - Yes be informed but be wise and see how you can assist others. You may have all the knowledge/information in the world yet what is that without love for your fellow beings - I am no Christian but I believe Jesus spoke only truth and never set himself above any.