Tor (anonymity network)

Originally posted by trollz

edit on 21-1-2012 by trollz because: (no reason given)

as they say silence is golden huh?
whats up seein peoples credit card details on a link too much for you to handle?

maybe i got that from a BS externallink?

shame half this sites full of ppl who think they know it all really

use TOR at your own risk and hope to god you dont end up on the bad side of the road cos if you do your SCREWED!!

to quote a group
We are Anonymous.
We are Legion.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
Expect us

if you think thats just a whitty line of words i invite you to come down deepweb and see for yourself exactly what Anonymous means

Originally posted by kai22
reply to post by UkRandom

 

So what you're saying is that your computer WILL be compromised, regardless of anti-virus/anti-malware?

Kyle

Antivirus do you think that will save you?

the big hitter Antivirus names on the market now have more holes than swiss cheese



what better way to generate money than give the consumer a false sense of security

Originally posted by UkRandom

Originally posted by trollz

edit on 21-1-2012 by trollz because: (no reason given)

as they say silence is golden huh?
whats up seein peoples credit card details on a link too much for you to handle?

maybe i got that from a BS externallink?

shame half this sites full of ppl who think they know it all really

use TOR at your own risk and hope to god you dont end up on the bad side of the road cos if you do your SCREWED!!

to quote a group
We are Anonymous.
We are Legion.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
Expect us

if you think thats just a whitty line of words i invite you to come down deepweb and see for yourself exactly what Anonymous means

I don't feel the need to assert myself to someone who is trying to act tough.
The list you posted is insignificant and with it you've only proved that you're trying to show off.
And ANONYMOUS is not someone who identifies themselves on the internet and brags about their knowledge.
You're a fool and noone is taking you seriously after that show.

Originally posted by trollz

Originally posted by UkRandom

Originally posted by trollz

edit on 21-1-2012 by trollz because: (no reason given)

as they say silence is golden huh?
whats up seein peoples credit card details on a link too much for you to handle?

maybe i got that from a BS externallink?

shame half this sites full of ppl who think they know it all really

use TOR at your own risk and hope to god you dont end up on the bad side of the road cos if you do your SCREWED!!

to quote a group
We are Anonymous.
We are Legion.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
Expect us

if you think thats just a whitty line of words i invite you to come down deepweb and see for yourself exactly what Anonymous means

I don't feel the need to assert myself to someone who is trying to act tough.
The list you posted is insignificant and with it you've only proved that you're trying to show off.
And ANONYMOUS is not someone who identifies themselves on the internet and brags about their knowledge.
You're a fool and noone is taking you seriously after that show.

act tough on the internet lol im not a 12year old school boy
you assume im associated with ANON
why would i wanna associate myself with a group who classes hacking as a DDOS attack
i know kids that can pull of a ddos so thats neither here nor there

im a fool? ok thats your opinion and i respect that
but crawling the deepweb and thinking nothings gonna happen is FOOLISH

if you dont know pc security and how to truly erase your tracks id stay away from tor and where tor takes you

So yeah... just tried to type that word?

Not sure how you did it?


Hmmmm

reply to post by UkRandom



Oh no, I agree... I was literally just commenting on your evasion of the censors.

You are absolutely spot on about deep web... good advice man.

reply to post by UkRandom


deepweb.wikia.com...

LOL, good try, I will agree with you on some points

First, if you dont know what your doing you should stay away from the deepweb, you dont wanna end up somewhere you shouldnt be, never surf it with _javascript enabled for starts.

Second, there are onion sites the common user wont be able to access unless you know the right people, most of the "level 5" sites are invite only

[snip]

reply to post by kai22

So... could I use tor for my everyday things such as ATS, Facebook etc?

it runs kinda slow but you can use it.

reply to post by UkRandom


I'm glad you can be so mature about it, but then, you don't give two you know what anyways.

Personally, I find the concepts of the deep/dark web fascinating...a secret world, withing a secret world, within the normal (clearweb) world. I'm going to look farther into this. Thanks for the info.

Originally posted by benrl
Tor is a dark dangerous place... Just like the internet used to be before all the AOL users jumped on.

And so is the regular internet. But just to be argumentative here... When is the last time you heard of someone being killed for something that happened over an .onion site compared to a .com site? (Like the Facebook trolls)

It's all about WHO uses the service(s). Tor can be a great place to speak your mind OR it can be a place to find pictures of abused children. Both exist on various .onion sites. (But they also do on .com sites just not as prevalent.)

My point is, if you want to use Tor in a legitimate way, you can. You can even use it to mask yourself on the regular web. And this anonymity is what scares 'them'.

I've browsed the deep web once or twice a few months ago and came accross some pretty interesting things. I saw plenty of information regarding the IRA, Al Qaeda, banned books, cracked software and even '20 ways to kill a man', heh.

The Hidden Wiki has plenty of links to various websites, but you can't really tell exactly what's on them without clicking the link, and that's risky so I never did that. I only went on websites which I knew about in the first place such as Black Market Reloaded and Silk Road.

It's totally interesting and if I was more of a computer expert I'd love to browse it some more, there is tonnes of information down there. But like people say, there is also a lot of CP and other nasty suprises lurking down there which luckily I never came accross.

Tor has some good uses, but the deep web can be a bad place. Think parts of Detroit at night time while walking alone.
My recommendation is if you don't know how to manually set up TOR without using Vidalia, then stay away from it. Also...if you set yourself up to run a relay, or an exit server..while helping the network grow...remember this.

Someone's IP eventually is the one that ends up accessing something. Unless you know how to proxy your IP before you enter Tor, at some point, it will be YOUR IP that ends up accessing something whether it was you, or someone else. Do you really want the feds knocking on your door for some hack or some post somewhere cause someone else used your IP for something illegal?

My best advise is...if you don't know what your doing.....stay away from there. Bad things can and possibly will happen.

I heard it yesterday about the Deep Web. I should warn everyone that wants to take a look that it's a pretty weird place to be. You can find some sick people there.

However, you can find some interesting things too.

Guys....I'm all for free speech and all, but please let's be very careful discussing .onion sites on ATS. And I really don't think they should be linked at all. Yes...you need Tor to get to them, but for all anyone knows...using a .onion url without knowing anything at all about it could lead you to somewhere you really don't want to be.
Or to somewhere which really really violates ATS's T&C's.

I am not going to elaborate. Just please let's be careful with this discussion.

So the common idea here is to us tor ONLY if you know what you're doing so you can stay away from the bad stuff, stop others connecting to 'X' website through you and have a least a little protection from the bad people... right?

If that's correct, then the idea of using tor to avoid the whole SOPA thing can't be that great an idea after all, as most (such as myself) won't have a clue where to start. Yeah I could download it right now, but is that really such a good idea? Or after 10 mins would I have pages of kiddie-porn on my screen and my laptop bent over with all and sundry letting themselves in it's back passage?

I think it would be good if those in the know could start a thread explaining how to use tor safely, so we all can avoid SOPA without ending up in a prison cell

Kyle

reply to post by kai22

Using Tor to avoid SOPA wouldn't have worked in the first place. That was the first thing I thought of when I first heard about SOPA and PIPA...but both had language that made it illegal for any site to "help" or assist people from accessing those sites which were banned by the laws. It basically would have made Tor illegal for the public to use.

It also could well have been interpreted that just using something like Google to find a file sharing site...even if it wasn't blocked yet would have been illegal. So Google could well have been in violation of the laws for helping people access those sites.

SOPA and PIPA would have basically shut the Tor network down for all intents and purposes.

reply to post by webpirate


But then again...as for a thread to help users understand Tor...especially if those laws had passed would have been against ATS T&C since it would have been basically telling users how to break the law. I'm leery of even going into any further discussion of Tor, since 2 clicks into the "starting point" it could put a user into either a place to find child porn or a place to buy illegal drugs.

My suggestion is to stay away from it. Anonymous has actually policed the onion network itself some by exposing the email addresses of people using child porn sites. It also ran DDoS attacks on multiples of those sites for a bit.

All I will say is there is a wealth of info on the open web atm about Tor, so any further questions should be directed to searches there. I'm sorry...I could explain it to you,but my advice is to stay clear of it.