Couple Finally Reveal Child's Gender, After 5 Years. Wait... What?

oh ya....


Its OK to dress the poor little bugger in pink swimsuits...but .. not in camo..or any other masculine clothes??

thats just wrong

[color=dodgerblue]I am curious about how little Sasha will turn out and what he will think of his parent's decision when he reaches adulthood.

I wonder if he will have children and if he will raise them in a similar fashion or not.

Originally posted by daryllyn
reply to post by mcdgray129

 

Would it be wrong of me to say you have such a lovely smile? , sorry just couldn't help myself had a few beers hahaha still doesnt change the fact you have such a nice smile .

[color=dodgerblue]Thanks for the reply... and the compliment (:

I think this social experiment that they are running with this poor child is nothing more than a ploy for attention on the parents part. The sad thing is that this little boy will bear the scars of his parent's actions for the rest of his life.

The only one that is losing in this mess is Sasha.

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Your more then welcome .
And your right, in the end its going to be Sasha that will be left with the scares from this Social Experiment his parents are doing on him.
I hope it does not but in the end this is probably going to hurt him in a big way in the long run. And all just so his parents could get 15 minutes of fame, makes me sick ..

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Dumb parents. That's new.

As much as the psychology of gender interests me, even I think this is moronic. Not child abuse however. They should be letting the child wear what he wants. There's no point in leading a child any other way, they will always know who and what they are eventually.

This is an odd story.

What I don't understand is; if they wanted to remain neutral, then you either allow it all (skulls and cargo's, and shiny pink) or neither.. stick to cloths that could be for either gender.

How can you stand there saying you want your child to be gender neutral, and allow him to wear pink swimsuits, but say no to cargo's???

Also, I'm female and I love cargo shorts and skulls on my shirts.... and no, I'm not butch dyke. :p

This is very wrong in my opinion. There is nothing Hyper-Masculine about skull shirts and cargo jeans. I'm against stereotyping but this isn't the way a couple should go against it, when he gets out of elementary school every middleschool kid will outcast him for not being a "normal" boy or girl. He will come home and ask his parents everyday why people make fun of him and don't join with him in games, and their answer every time will be "because your very unique" or "you should never listen to them". Its very hard NOT to listen to them and he'll get depressed and want to be like all the other boys, but his parents will not let him. Most likely ending in suicide or a horrible relationship with his parents. Everyone has dealt with some sort of bullying problem and seen how many stereotypes there are in the schools, doing this to a child is like placing a penguin in a shark pin. as I said, this is just an opinion and I could be terribly wrong about the schools in their area, but this wont really help fight stereotyping in places where stereotyping is completely normal.

Maybe when he gets out of school he can make his parents proud, but in school fitting in is a part of making it through.

[color=dodgerblue]Being bullied is not fun. I know from personal experience.

I fear for my oldest son because he has Apraxia of speech and is slightly Autistic. I am afraid that he is going to suffer in school even though it is nothing anyone did.

I'm not really sure I believe this story, but I'll comment like it's true...

They're pushing the silly outfits on him, and here's how I know why. I remember being five, and I didn't give a rat's ass what I wore so long as it was comfortable and loose enough for me to play in. I may have had color preferences but anything that would restrict my movement was tossed right-quick.

Oh look, right after I typed that I did a bit of research on the subject.
It's a boy!

Sasha's gender was almost revealed when he took to running around their garden naked, but Beck was resolute and encouraged him to play with dolls to hide his masculinity.

So it isn't about gender neutral toys, it's about no masculine toys.

Finally the secret got too hard to keep and Beck and Kieran were forced to reveal Sasha's sex when he started school.

Sasha wears a ruched-sleeved and scalloped-collared shirt to school from the girl's uniform list, and has been banned from sporting combat trousers.

Got it, no boy clothes.

The youngster is also encouraged to wear flowery tops at weekends.

And encouraged to wear feminine clothes

I have a personal belief that if you REALLY do a gender neutral upbringing then boys will usually go for the Transformers, sports, rock and rap music, Three Stooges, etc.

It is not my place to say if what they do is wrong or right but I gotta say... What is the big deal in being a boy or a girl? I swear these new age hippie parents freak me out sometimes.

"a boy without a winkle is a girl " - its not rocket science

Some people have been doing this gender-neutral thing (in what is possibly the right way) for many years. They just didn't find it necessary to keep the whole doggone world informed about it.

As a female child, I had a collection of Matchbox cars, toy dump trucks and fire trucks, and toy soldiers as well as a Barbie or 3 and "baby dolls." I got what I liked regardless of gender association. I read Nancy Drew but I also read the Hardy boys and Tom Swift... I never liked frills and lace (or pink) so I was never subjected to them (except by one well-intentioned but clueless grandmother). At home I wore what I wanted, usually shorts or pants and plain t-shirt type shirts in the colors I liked - usually earth colors and blues or greens. I did like flowers though, so I had a few flowery things. I also liked my hair short and was allowed to keep that way. I was, in fact, often mistaken for a boy but I got used to it, and it didn't bother me enough to change my ways.

Had I been forced into being a "girlie" girl, my childhood would have been significantly worse and I'm grateful for the freedom I had, so I would be the first one to defend a child's right to that freedom and to follow their own preferences, but what if Sasha wanted to wear cargo pants and camo shirts? Had I wanted to wear pink or frilly girlie stuff, I would have been allowed to. Giving a child the freedom to be who he or she wants to be without forcing them into gender stereotypes is a good thing IMO, but it sounds like Sasha's "gender neutrality" involved as much restriction as freedom.

I'm sure the whole world will be watching to see how he turns out .. a public scrutiny which may turn out to cause more problems for him than the original gender neutrality business. *Sigh*

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[color=dodgerblue]I agree that it seems like they are pushing ultra-feminine toys, clothes and ideas on this boy.

I also don't get what their goal is in doing so.

And... is that Kevin Smith? Or is it a guy that looks an awful lot like him in your profile picture? Just curious.

As everyone has pointed out its not gender neutral.

This whole thing is for fame/trendy points

Wanted a girl got a boy instead.

Anyways either this will end now and the kid can start dressing how he feels and wants to not how the parents dictates. Depending on appropriateness(He's five 'member) and not just whats outrageous enough to make a statement.

Or they will continue their experiment in till it gets out of hand and the kid develops a complex or get bullied. Which they might want just so they can get more attention down the line. I wouldn't be surprised to hear a story in a couple years about how poor sasha got bullied or the school did this or that, and a lawsuit crops up ect ect.

Poor kid....a victim of some sort o f sick political correctness...extreme liberalism.

reply to post by daryllyn


Eh... stupid people shouldn't be allowed to have kids. The way I see it they don't want their boy to be a boy.. they want their boy to be a girl. He'll probably rebel in his teens and become as masculine as possible just to spite his idiotic parents. It's a parents right to raise their offspring as they see fit, I don't see any abuse happening.. but the poor kid is going to be F'd up for sure.

The article doesn't specify but I assume this is a Lesbian couple. Perhaps they want a gay son, and hope by encouraging as much feminine material as possibly to sway his likes later on in life? Who knows.. I still say they are idiots.

[color=dodgerblue]I will share something with you guys that I normally don't talk about that much.

My username is my real name. Sort of.

My parents named me Daryl Lyn (my mom saw the movie Splash three days before I was born, Daryl Hannah starred in that movie with Tom Hanks for those of you that aren't old enough to remember.)

So imagine being a poor girl dressed in hand-me-downs, in a small town with what is usually considered to be a boy's name. Glasses. The whole nine.

I was bullied. Very badly. I would come home crying almost daily and grew to hate my name. I wanted to run away and change my name to Jill... seems so silly now, but I that's what I wanted.

Even as I grew up, I still had a hatred for my name. I could never just tell someone my name once. I always had to repeat it, answer questions about it, listen to the same stupid joke over and over again.

Most common question: Did your parents want a boy? Then why did they give you a boy's name?

Most common joke: A reference to the Bob Newhart Show "This is my brother Daryl and my other brother Daryl."

The beginning of any school year was awkward, the teacher would call out my name, I would raise my hand, and they would look around in a confused manner because they didn't expect a little girl to have their hand raised.

In some ways, I don't think I would be who I am without my name. In other ways, I don't really think it was worth it either.

In my early 20's I had a group of friends that decided that they didn't like my name. They asked what my middle name was but they didn't like that either. So they started calling me Daryllyn and introducing me that way and before I knew it, that was my name. I have gone by Daryllyn for nearly 10 years now.

Now I get compliments instead of questions. I wish I could have been Daryllyn from the beginning. Life would have been less complicated. I may one day have it legally changed...

So in a way, I feel a connection with Sasha.

Naming my children was a huge decision for me. I took a lot of time in choosing to make sure that they didn't go through the same thing as I did growing up.

Unfortunately for this boy, you cannot pick your parents. Their misguided 'social experiment' will scar him for the rest of his life.

IRM

reply to post by InfaRedMan


[color=dodgerblue]Someday, the boy will grow to resent his parents for his up bringing. I have no doubt in my mind about that.

I hope he can overcome it.

Originally posted by daryllyn
[color=dodgerblue]I will share something with you guys that I normally don't talk about that much.

My username is my real name. Sort of.

My parents named me Daryl Lyn (my mom saw the movie Splash three days before I was born, Daryl Hannah starred in that movie with Tom Hanks for those of you that aren't old enough to remember.)

So imagine being a poor girl dressed in hand-me-downs, in a small town with what is usually considered to be a boy's name. Glasses. The whole nine.

I was bullied. Very badly. I would come home crying almost daily and grew to hate my name. I wanted to run away and change my name to Jill... seems so silly now, but I that's what I wanted.

Even as I grew up, I still had a hatred for my name. I could never just tell someone my name once. I always had to repeat it, answer questions about it, listen to the same stupid joke over and over again.

Most common question: Did your parents want a boy? Then why did they give you a boy's name?

Most common joke: A reference to the Bob Newhart Show "This is my brother Daryl and my other brother Daryl."

The beginning of any school year was awkward, the teacher would call out my name, I would raise my hand, and they would look around in a confused manner because they didn't expect a little girl to have their hand raised.

In some ways, I don't think I would be who I am without my name. In other ways, I don't really think it was worth it either.

In my early 20's I had a group of friends that decided that they didn't like my name. They asked what my middle name was but they didn't like that either. So they started calling me Daryllyn and introducing me that way and before I knew it, that was my name. I have gone by Daryllyn for nearly 10 years now.

Now I get compliments instead of questions. I wish I could have been Daryllyn from the beginning. Life would have been less complicated. I may one day have it legally changed...

So in a way, I feel a connection with Sasha.

Naming my children was a huge decision for me. I took a lot of time in choosing to make sure that they didn't go through the same thing as I did growing up.

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This is such a touching story, and im sorry for the pain you felt as a kid . and you're name is wonderful just like you're personality it seems ..

Originally posted by CosmicEgg
reply to post by nuttin4U

 

Why do you think so? Sasha is a perfectly suitable name for either male or female. See here. I have only ever known males named Sasha. Maybe it depends on where you're from, eh?

Why should he be more toward the feminine? Is that a problem?

So you missed the part where his owners wanted to keep him gender neutral then. I see you're some sort of man hater.

Maybe he won't commit date rape or beat up guys at the pub or join the military or kill his wife and kids when he grows up.

Cant post now, raping wife before beating her up and shooing some cats. bbl.