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Why would the gov't so quickly confiscate so many tapes, then not release their footage
Originally posted by budaruskie
ANYONE who believes that there is no video of the "plane" hitting the Pentagon is a flaming moron! Why would the gov't so quickly confiscate so many tapes, then not release their footage....if they were worthless? I've been around here and heard the absolutely absurd arguments and crap that some of you refer to as logic. This is so easy a child can figure it out, if you hide something and your version of events is scientifically proven and considered by most expterts to be at the very least "nearly impossible", then its a pretty good bet that you are LYING. Now, if you have a long standing track record of lying about all sorts of things, and a long standing track record of killing people, as well as motive to both in this case...only a moron would have trouble figuring this out.
P.S. I've posted it before so I don't feel the need to kick that horse, but if you look through the threads right here on ATS you will see pictures of a CAMERA, directly above the impact at the Pentagon. You guys' ridiculous arguments as to why THAT camera didn't get any footage is the epitome of stupidity.
Originally posted by freedom12
reply to post by Reheat
So the topic you've chose is "G forces"?
I believe the topic is witnesses?
Secondly, this is supposed to be a place where we can civililly discuss topics, not get nasty and call others names or use insults. Apparently, you are claiming to be a pilot and therefore obviously have more knowledge about "G forces" than an ex-Army combat ground warrior, such as myself.
As for Mr Wallace, he is another "witness" that did not see the plane hit the Pentagon.
Originally posted by budaruskie
reply to post by Reheat
I'm not going to argue with you, believe whatever you want. But you tell me how many "lights" have black lenses on them. Besides, it could easily be proven whichever it was light or camera by contract records with whomever installed it. Why anyone would put such a small "light" with a black lense 30 or more feet in the air and why there don't seem to be any pictures showing it to be a light...is somewhat puzzling if it is in fact a light. It's called logic, and many people seem to have no idea what it is or how to use it.
Originally posted by snowcrash911
reply to post by freedom12
For Pete's sake man did you watch the jet flyby? Those people at the Pentagon watched it go in.
I have relatives on Sint Maarten, and I've asked about it. I can confirm Proudbird's point.
A plane on the ground, with engines running at full thrust? yes, it will blow over people and cars. When it's flying, that thrust is converted into forward momentum for the aircraft, there is nothing left to blow anything over.
You watched a high powered, high speed jet pass over a daredevil by a margin of a few feet. You've lost the argument. Stop being obtuse. Stop believing BS. Accept you were wrong, man up and admit it.
Or... embarrass yourself further. Notice the "ass" in embarrass.
Let's have a real demonstration. Have a competent pilot complete the maneuvers said to have been managed...
Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by loveguy
OK! You got it!!
Let's have a real demonstration. Have a competent pilot complete the maneuvers said to have been managed...
Here you go:
Starts @ 4:42..........but the other parts tear apart that appalling bad piece of crap titled "Loose Change"......
edit on Sun 22 January 2012 by ProudBird because: (no reason given)
Am I supposed to accept a video game analysis? A simulation?
Originally posted by freedom12
reply to post by Reheat
As for Mr Wallace, he is another "witness" that did not see the plane hit the Pentagon.
Originally posted by loveguy
Am I supposed to accept a video game analysis? A simulation?
Originally posted by loveguy
Let's have a real demonstration. Have a competent pilot complete the maneuvers said to have been managed; on camera and have that feller stand just like he did during these demonstrations.
Hey, Jesse Ventura's conspiracy porn (tm) did a Pentagon simulation too, with Pile-Its For 9/11 Truth, and they failed... You can just try not to make it....
Originally posted by freedom12
reply to post by snowcrash911
I believe loveguy is referring to the spiraling, hard banking, descent that was near impossible for a highly experienced pilot to execute.
Originally posted by freedom12
Instead of crashing into the top of the Pentagon and probably causing more damage/casualties, the "hijacker-pilot" supposedly executed this extremely difficult manuver flying by the White House and striking the only side of the Pentagon that was reinforced for just such an attack. Not to mention what offices there were in that part of the Pentagon.
Originally posted by freedom12
On top of this, there is video/sound evidence of secondary explosions happening in the Pentagon
Originally posted by freedom12
and many military witnesses at the Pentagon reported smelling cordite after the "attack"
I believe loveguy is referring to the spiraling, hard banking, descent that was near impossible for a highly experienced pilot to execute.
.... the "hijacker-pilot" supposedly executed this extremely difficult manuver flying by the White House
Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by freedom12
(Where do people get this stuff? Just making it up as they go?)