Winter 2012- Most Extreme Configuration of the Jet Stream Ever Recorded

Excellent thread S&F - Let's face it, whatever the experts tell us - we can all see it - every season and every day for the last few years.

I've been in New Zealand - for only four summers and this is the worst one I've seen - meaning 3 days so hot and humid and 3 days where I need to light the fire. Friends who have been born and bread here are talking of the strange weather patterns.

I also read about the apparent dead zones in the oceans around the world which they're now blaming for the catastrophic fish deaths - that doesn't explain the bird die offs and other species like cattle etc., but only an idiot (sorry if you're not one) can sense very strongly that something has gone wrong!

We know for sure - TPTB aren't going to Front Up and tell us what they really know so all I can say is what many others have already said - be prepared for anything. Even if you ignore the Myan predictions and ignore all the so called experts who can't even tell you where failed rockets are going to land yet expect us to trust them when it comes to more serious scenarios to do with space debris/comets and Solar Flairs - you have to trust your own instincts and mine tell me SOMETHING IS ABOUT TO BLOW - I just hope and pray that when it does at least some of us will survive to tell the story - But it won't be over the internet.

I don't know that this is all that unusual...I lived in Wyoming in the 90's and worked at the dept store there. Was plenty of times that trucks were delayed due to snow days in Seattle...at the time it was the main distro center for shipments out of Washington. I don't believe Seattle gets an average of 3" of snow per year based on my experience then but the 3" measurement might be an average ....based on???

Here in central coast area of Calif where I live now, the winters have been extremely cold for the last three years, wierd rain cycles, and cold summers. This year it seems more normal with summer - like weather at Christmas and then getting colder in January. So maybe it's return to "normal"???

Who knows??With all the additional "x-factors" these days...it will be interesting to discover a normal.

Just my two pennies.

Originally posted by lordpiney
and there is only another month and a half til things start warming up again

Ah but this is not guaranteed. The weather is skewed. Many of us have had an unusually mild winter. Who's to say that 'spring' will not similarly be turned on it's head?
I think all bets are off at the moment.

Ah Hah!

The strange sounds are simply wind! In most of the videos the it sounded like a strange howling wind (massive).

If the jet stream is closer to one than before maybe that could be the source.

Many parts of North America near the Arctic have received record snow fall this year. Maybe we are seeing the return of the Ice Age. Perhaps the snow will keep on falling until it creates glaciers again. Then the glaciers cool the rest of the earth. That would be cool. ER um haha.

i'm in ontario canada,and pesonally,i'm loving winter so far!
the average temp has been aroun 0 - 4 degrees celcius. we only have 1 inch of snow!!! mostly rain,and i don't have to shovel that!
this time last year,we had at least a foot of snow , and freezing out.
is weird,cause the canadian mid west is experiencing record breaking cold. i feel for those folks,but you can keep that!
i don't know what is going on with the weather,but it is ok for me!
having said that,it will probably be record breaking hot this summer around here!

Originally posted by reficul

i don't know what is going on with the weather,but it is ok for me!
having said that,it will probably be record breaking hot this summer around here!

I guess it depends whether you are on the winning or losing side. The past year or so we have seen record breaking weather patterns - disrupting agriculture and pushing up prices (plus causing real hardship for those at the sharp end). I know what you are saying. Me I'm celebrating my lower fuel bill (so far). But we have to see the bigger picture.

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ya,i agree. as for me,i grow my on veggies,and burn wood for heat,occasionally using the funace.
i dont have the room to raise livestock,but if i did.........
ive been in 'survival' mode for the last 15 years or so (not waiting for 2012,i was forced into it!),so not much bothers me. these people on here ammuse me by getting ready to 'survive'.
try hunting a rabbit in -25 celcius,skinning and gutting it,shoving a stick up its but and cooking it on an open fire in the snow!!! good luck!

What i'm thinking is this......NO ONE is an "expert"...so, can we please stop calling people...that do certain occupations FOR A LIVING..."experts". They're NOT experts...they're people. They're people, trying to "figure it all out"....just like you and me. They're probably just as surprised as the rest of us. If they were "experts", they should have KNOWN this "extreme weather" was coming, and should have an explanation.

It's also funny (in a sad way) that no one has mentioned anything about AIR POLLUTION. We act like we can litter up the earth...and all will be well. We think earth will somehow cleanse itself, of our GARBAGE! Think about it, they're still finding garbage...left behind, from thousands of years ago, by our species. Now, imagine the crap people will find, when our garbage gets buried. People, 1,000 years from now, will un-earth...planes, trains, and automobiles.

Industry is killing our planet.....and it's dying a slooooooooow death. We're polluting the air; polluting the oceans, lakes and rivers; heck, we've even polluted space, with our space junk. All mankind does is pollute, pollute, pollute. And then man asks: "why is this happening?" For real????

Last week western canada was more or less walking around in t shirts. Yesterday morning was -48 C where I live . I am guessing the jet stream is back to normal as most of canada for the last few days have been - 30 C -40+ C with the windchill

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A few weather people have suggested that the Gulf Stream had all but died,
that was in 2010.

The seabed shifted with the Japan quake, 79 feet or 16 stories...
news.nationalgeographic.com...
So things are different. I think the key will be to see if the Jet Stream returns to a previous
pattern we were familiar with, or if it stays this way, or keeps going in extremes.

By this next winter, I think we will have a much better idea of whats to come!
By the way, that will be around December 21, 2012!

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Originally posted by baddmove
reply to post by this_is_who_we_are

 

I think Seattle snowfall for a year is about 3 inches... not sure though. I live in eastern WA. and it has snowed for 2 days here. We got about 10 inches all together. Seattle close their schools when it snows an inch..

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UPDATE: 180,000 Homes Without Power Now
Submitted by KOMO Staff
Thursday, January 19th, 2012, 11:26am

From the PSE twitter feed:

We’re making steady progress w/ restoration, but being hampered by additional damage caused by falling tree branches/freezing rain. (1/9)

This is likely to continue until temperatures warm up, snow melts off the limbs, and access to damaged areas improves. (2/9)

As of 6 AM, we responded to 273 events and restored power to nearly 46,000 customers in W WA. (3/9)

Currently 15,000 customers without power, primarily in Thurston/Pierce Co, & parts of King Co. (4/9)

Based on wx forecast & extensive damage, we est restoration efforts will continue into Fri/Sat for areas such as Pierce/Thurston Co. (5/9)

Please take the appropriate measures to ensure your safety and comfort. (6/9)

There are 61 4-person line crews and 35 two-person crews assisting with restoration efforts incl. crews from Ore, S WA & Canada. (7/9)

Additional 12 crews called in from outside the region to arrive today to supplement restoration efforts & relieve crews. (8/9)

If you need to report an outage, call us at 1-888-225-5773. (9/9)
newcastle.komonews.com...

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Oregon Hit With Major Flooding; Weather Service Issues Warning; Rivers, Creeks Cresting At Record Levels
www.oregonlive.com...
By Lynne Terry, The Oregonian
Published: Thursday, January 19, 2012, 11:29 AM
Updated: Thursday, January 19, 2012, 11:53 AM

The National Weather Service issued a flood warning from Lincoln City to Florence on the coast washing eastward to Oakridge and north to Salem. Much of the rest of the state is under a flood advisory or flood watch.
www.oregonlive.com...

Stay safe out there.

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I dont know about that.... and the noise deal...
btw, I love your screen name. For some reason it makes me smile!

Its finally raining here in CA.!

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hmmm
don't have any links
but i recall reading an article in a book about

Weather War

during the cold war soviet scientists determined that by damming only 2 rivers

they could turn europe into a wasteland

perhaps those who poo-poo any talk of "unnaturally persistent contrails" and HAARP
will be eating crow[dead, of course] this year. [which reminds me i have to splice 2 videos,taken 5 hours apart, and upload them, lots of "contrailing" here in the Caribbean the other day]

add to that an increase of sylph sightings[ there must be a severe imbalance for them to be out in force, trying to restore said balance]

Sylph Transporting Aetheric Coronal Elements (ACE)

[Editor's Note: ZSL originally sent me this article on December 28, 2011. Ken]

By Zuerrnnovahh-Starr Livingstone
educate-yourself.org...
January 9, 2012

Sylph Transporting Aetheric Coronal Elements (ACE) by ZS Livingstone (Jan. 9, 2012)

A video of five different photographers capturing the same "UFO" was posted on December 25 2011 from the Siberian city of Tsjeliabinsk. The usual English spelling of this Russian city of 1.1 million is Chelyabinsk. From the 1960s until the fall of the Soviet Union, this was a city closed to foreigners. Many of the Soviet Union's tanks were built there including Stalin's T34 tanks. Russians called the city "Tank City". In the same Oblast (state) work was done on nuclear weapons. There was a serious nuclear accident 150 kilometres north-west of the city in 1957 and travel was limited in this area.

mountzion144.ning.com...

www.youtube.com...

A sylph flying low and slow over the city carrying a piece of the corona of the sun is good news. There is enough power in the blazing sphere of Aetheric Coronal Elements to set fire to the whole region. Properly contained the ACE could be used to generate electricity for centuries to come. ACE is nature's Free Energy source. In the past demon entities from the lower astral realms would have tried to wrestle the ACE from the sylph and use the power for their nefarious plans. As much of the lower astral is now collapsing sylphs are free to do their work unimpeded.

The ACE could be used to transmute the radiation still in the soil. ACE could be used to remove heavy metals contaminating the land from seventy years of heavy industry. ACE could be used to accelerate plant growth and heal the animals in the forest. ACE could be used to heal the people. It is a power source and it is Power from Source.

ACE can be used to create quartz crystal abundance such as is witnessed in Arkansas and Brazil. The earth elemental beings used ACE to fashion all the myriad forms of geodes found underground. ACE can be used to transmute silicates into copper, iron, and other metal ores. The Iron Range of northern Minnesota was fashioned by dwarves using ACE.

there seems to be an unusual effort to claim this a failed rocket launch or phobos-grunt reentering
; just statements though, and "logical" arguments... and scores of copies of the vid with titles stating it to be such;
yet no actual proof as it were.
but my instincts tell me its a sylph. whether that sylph is actually Transporting Aetheric Coronal Elements (ACE), i'll reserve judgement.

and lets not get into such things as:

1- the implications of weather war, and what kind of psychopath would believe they could get away with this
never mind that the soviet study was from the 70's [they've had 40yrs to improve the tech]

2- what if the pacific garbage patch is acting as a heat collector or heat sink, same with corexitized GOM?
think Archimedian-points/key logs/Systempunkts- leverage points

3- possible increase in use of scalar weapons against U.S.DUMBS

i'm sure the materialist paradigmers have a perfectly logical and scientific explanation
something along the lines of
"Nothing to see here, move on!"

Been waiting for someone to comment on the weather this year, and was wondering if it was just us, up here in North Dakota, experiencing this weird weather?

As for us, I am up near the Canadian border, and after an average summer last year, we have had virtually no winter what so ever this year as of yet. Usually we get temps that drop into the -45F range (same in C), with snow several feet deep by this time of year. Yet, this year, we have broken over a dozen long standing record high temps (from the early 1900s), and snow? What's that? We barely have a dusting, after a record breaking snow and spring rain year last year.

I have even talked to my parents, who have also said that they have never experienced a winter like this. That gives me about 75 years of weather data.

I grew up in southwestern Minnesota in the 60s and 70s, when snow levels were much higher than in the past 20 years or so, with snow often being so deep we had to leave our home through a second story access, and snowmobiles were often a much more sensible form of transportation than cars. We missed alot of school those years due to really bad weather. I wish I could post pics, but as of now, my parents hold them and until I can get copies made, I won't have them, but I do have proof of these years and all the snow we had. We often had a "cold snap" in January too, that lasted a week or 2, that left us with temps ranging down into the -40F/C range and daytime temps never coming above zero. We didn't look forward to temps over zero before mid Feb.

Is the weather changing? You bet! Is it normal? I think so. I also remember snows of a foot in the Seattle area in the early 80s, although they didn't stick around long. I just think people need to dust off their memories and talk to older family members.

Our earth is an ever changing world, with changes none of us can predict, even from year to year. Even the best of meteorologists can only forecast out accurately about 72 hours.

Where do I get my information? Life experience and being a member of SkyWarn, where we work with meteorologists extensively during the summer months, for tornado and severe storm work as volunteers. Yup, I'm a storm chaser- one of the legit ones. Weather and genealogy are 2 of my favorite "bad habits".

Let's see what the next few years bring.

Peace!
SK

It's really, really cold here in Spain (which i guess is rare)..and i also have seen someone reporting and posting a picture of SNOW (!!!) in the desert in algier. (Which has NEVER happened before according to the one who posted that).

On that note, being in Spain i miss SNOW a lot. I know it sounds crazy, but winter without snow is just odd for me.

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I spent a few years in the Seattle area, Graham to be closer, closer to Mt Rainier/Tahoma. Every winter we spent out there, we definitely kept the generator ready to roll, as it never failed we would have at least ONE power outage during the winter months. The longest one lasted nearly 3 weeks. This is recent history, not back in the 80s and such.

The biggest problem with the Seattle/Tacoma area is that being a rainforest, the trees don't plant their roots deep into the soil, leaving them at a distinct disadvantage when even a modest 30-40 mph wind blows up. Since the area is mostly volcanic, many of the power lines have yet to be laid underground, leaving Seattle/Tacoma at a distinct disadvantage when bad weather comes in. Since the area doesn't often receive a great deal of snow, they also are at a disadvantage when it comes to snow removal, not having invested in the equipment necessary to keep the city open and functioning, preferring to focus their resources on the nearby Snoqualamie Pass, to keep it open to commerce, as it is the main artery into the region. (I-90 interstate).

Wonder what you guys are going to do when Mt Rainier finally does blow it's top? You guys are sitting on a virtual Pompei, with no way out if she does blow. I hiked the Wonderland Trail on Mt Rainier one summer- and man, what a ride! Always active, both day and night, with tremors that will literally bump you right up off the ground during your sleep, and make you lose your balance just a bit while hiking. Mt Rainier isn't quiet by any means. When she blows, you have a river on the north side, one on the south and I-5 to contend with, which makes it almost certain that very few will escape that disaster when it does finally happen. Both of those rivers are direct sources from Mt Rainier, glacier water coming from the highest regions of the volcano. I-5 is a joke- with so little access into and out of the city, I would chance a backpack and survival gear long before I would trust my vehicle to get out of the region should disaster occur.

I would be far more worried about that or the Cascadia fault than a few inches of snow. Snow melts.

Just my 2 cents.
Peace!
SKs

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Good post!! I grew up on a farm where every day was "survival" mode. We grew nearly all of our own food, and I learned from the time I was quite young- 4-5 years old, standing on a chair, how to process all of that food, and yes, at that early age, even how to COOK the food. Our garden was an acre in size, and we grew as many domestic livestock animals as we could, supplemented with hunting when necessary. We kids learned how to survive if something happened during winter that made it so we couldn't reach home by walking easily. I've never gotten out of that mode-it's a lifestyle. We kids were gun saavy by age 6 also, knowing both use and safety of such items in the house. They never had to be locked up- we knew what they were, what they did, and frankly, our parents would've skinned US alive had we ever touched a gun without a specific reason, like the occasional rabid animal that wandered into our farmsite.

I guess being the oldest of 5 kids, although female, gave me some real advantages over many of my contemporaries, many of whom cannot boil water. So in answer to your question, Yup, I could kill, skin and roast me a rabbit or 3, build a snug snow shelter and come out alive the next day.

Your post made me smile- Thanks!
SK

reply to post by burntheships
What you are saying is mostly true. There are a lot of crazy things happening on this planet over the last few years. I'm not worried about it though because there isn't much I can afford to do about it if something major happens. We do stock about a months food in case something happens and have an old woodstove for backup and a small older generator. If a tornado hits my house, all my preparation is useless anyway. But still Everyone should be somewhat prepared for disasters. It takes a while for FEMA to get aid to places and an interuption in the food distribution system can effect people far away from the disaster.