PBS broadcast of “Solving the Mystery of WTC7″ reaches 2.7 Million Americans

Originally posted by TrueAmerican

Originally posted by doubledutch

Originally posted by TupacShakur
reply to post by v1rtu0s0

 

You guys are crazy! WTC7 wasn't brought down by controlled demolition, fire brought it down! Fire is what caused the building to collapse symmetrically in a way that parallels demolitions, by symmetrically severing the core columns at the exact same moment to ensure symmetry.

And this happened on several floors, allowing the building to free-fall during it's collapse. Because fire is capable of doing that. If there's anything we know about fire, it's that it burns perfectly symmetrically. In fact, it's so predictable and uniform in it's damage, that it could caused several core columns to fail within less than a second of each other allowing the symmetry and free-fall. That's completely possible, and that's what happened. Just ask NIST, the media, and George Bush.

If you disagree with them, even if you're a structural engineer or high-rise architect with decades of experience, you're nothing more than a charlatan peddling conspiracy theories in order to fool gullible idiots into buying your film, because a career in architecture or engineering definitely doesn't pay good, so they need to make a couple hundred bucks for doing an interview.

And the BBC reporting it's collapse before it happened? That was just some confusion, that's all. They weren't handed a script that was read at the wrong time, because they were playing their role in the agenda, they were just confused, because it was a chaotic day. I know when I'm confused, I can accurately predict events that have never happened in history, such as steel-framed skyscrapers collapsing entirely from fire damage.

Those dozens of people who reported explosions, many of which explicity stated things like "I know what explosions sound like. It wasn't the sound of a building collapsing that I mistook for explosions, they were without a doubt explosions", are all lying. They just heard the building collapsing, that's all. 100 witnesses reporting the same thing, 200 witnesses, who cares. They're all wrong about hearing explosions, and me, one person, is right, and am in the position to tell all of them that they're incorrect.

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edit on 16-1-2012 by doubledutch because: (no reason given)

Rofl, wassa matta? Tupac got you tongue tied?

That post was fricken epic! Awesome Tupac!

Yes, that's three thumbs.

No it wasn't. It was crap. 100 witnesses are lying? give me a break. At least he could have said 100 witnesses were mistaken but his arrogance didn't allow that. Which makes me believe he is full of crap. Or being sarcastic.

reply to post by Alien Abduct

Name one show that you consider to be non mainstream that has gotten more coverage?

I can't, I'm not american and don't hav a TV.

Some people just make the most ridiculous and pointless comments....

Sure.

Man the Fact that there are so many experts claiming that it was controlled is astounding, that alone should warrant EVERYONE'S attention and indeed that alone should warrant a new investigation.

I couldn't agree more.

Now here is my point, which I even stated with a laugh, in my country of residence (Holland) 2.7m viewers is probably unheard of here but it is a good percentage of the population. There are some 17 million here.. Unless I'm very wrong the US has almost 20 times that. But maybe I just like making pointless comments.

2.7 million is probably the nuber of people that don't have any other channel but PBS.

Out of that 2.7 million, half were probably to drunk to understand what the hell is going on.

But anyways.....

I like Nova and Antique Road Show.....

I have'nt seen this advertised either

Hey, who is this GoodOlDave guy? Do you think he is one of those 'professional de-bunkers'. I checked out his profile... he pretty much only debunks 911.... 800 posts, 780 posts debunking 911, and all of the threads were. A real specialist.. 911.
Wonder what the going rate for debunkers is these days?

Americans are dumber than cows.


Sure you might have well paying jobs, degrees, excel in jobs, excellent writing skills and command of the english language..

but still... Dumber than a sack of hammers.


Its very odd to observe it all

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Originally posted by v1rtu0s0
The numbers are in, and apparently the mystery of WTC 7 has reached mainstream levels of exposure. So while some claim the movement is dying, it seems to me that it continues to gain in popularity and is not going away anytime soon because people don't want to let it go, and with good reason.

The program did well, airing 678 times in 32% of all U.S. television households, reaching a gross audience of 2,731,200 viewers. .PDF file attached

A five minute version of the newly-released documentary, “Architects & Engineers – Solving the Mystery of WTC 7,” is now showing on National Public Television stations across the United States. The mini-doc will run as part of the “Spotlight On” series of educational, short five minute programs that have been broadcasting nationally on Public Television for 19 years. *Narrated by Ed Asner.




Spotlight On: A Strong Alternative to Advertising. Public Awareness Programming.

- Guaranteed 500 National Airings on Public Television
- Guaranteed 3 Million Viewers
- Confirmed Nielson-based Monitoring Report
- Approximately 40%-60% airings in Prime Time

ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THESE IGNORANT COMMENTS IS NEVER BEFORE IN THE HISTORY OF FIRE INVESTIGATIONS IN THE ENTIRE WORLD HAS A HIGHRISE BUILDING COLLAPSED DUE TO FIRE!

(Source)

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Originally posted by TupacShakur
reply to post by v1rtu0s0

 

You guys are crazy! WTC7 wasn't brought down by controlled demolition, fire brought it down! Fire is what caused the building to collapse symmetrically in a way that parallels demolitions, by symmetrically severing the core columns at the exact same moment to ensure symmetry.

And this happened on several floors, allowing the building to free-fall during it's collapse. Because fire is capable of doing that. If there's anything we know about fire, it's that it burns perfectly symmetrically. In fact, it's so predictable and uniform in it's damage, that it could caused several core columns to fail within less than a second of each other allowing the symmetry and free-fall. That's completely possible, and that's what happened. Just ask NIST, the mainstream media, and George Bush.

If you disagree with them, even if you're a structural engineer or high-rise architect with decades of experience, you're nothing more than a charlatan peddling conspiracy theories in order to fool gullible idiots into buying your film, because a career in architecture or engineering definitely doesn't pay good, so they need to make a couple hundred bucks for doing an interview.

And the BBC reporting it's collapse before it happened? That was just some confusion, that's all. They weren't handed a script that was read at the wrong time, because they were playing their role in the agenda, they were just confused, because it was a chaotic day. I know when I'm confused, I can accurately predict events that have never happened in history, such as steel-framed skyscrapers collapsing entirely from fire damage.

Those dozens of people who reported explosions, many of which explicity stated things like "I know what explosions sound like. It wasn't the sound of a building collapsing that I mistook for explosions, they were without a doubt explosions", are all lying. They just heard the building collapsing, that's all. 100 witnesses reporting the same thing, 200 witnesses, who cares. They're all wrong about hearing explosions, and me, one person, is right, and am in the position to tell all of them that they're incorrect.

edit on 16-1-2012 by TupacShakur because: (no reason given)

Haha! Hilarious!

Originally posted by TupacShakur
reply to post by v1rtu0s0

 

You guys are crazy! WTC7 wasn't brought down by controlled demolition, fire brought it down! Fire is what caused the building to collapse symmetrically in a way that parallels demolitions, by symmetrically severing the core columns at the exact same moment to ensure symmetry.

And this happened on several floors, allowing the building to free-fall during it's collapse. Because fire is capable of doing that. If there's anything we know about fire, it's that it burns perfectly symmetrically. In fact, it's so predictable and uniform in it's damage, that it could caused several core columns to fail within less than a second of each other allowing the symmetry and free-fall. That's completely possible, and that's what happened. Just ask NIST, the mainstream media, and George Bush.

If you disagree with them, even if you're a structural engineer or high-rise architect with decades of experience, you're nothing more than a charlatan peddling conspiracy theories in order to fool gullible idiots into buying your film, because a career in architecture or engineering definitely doesn't pay good, so they need to make a couple hundred bucks for doing an interview.

And the BBC reporting it's collapse before it happened? That was just some confusion, that's all. They weren't handed a script that was read at the wrong time, because they were playing their role in the agenda, they were just confused, because it was a chaotic day. I know when I'm confused, I can accurately predict events that have never happened in history, such as steel-framed skyscrapers collapsing entirely from fire damage.

Those dozens of people who reported explosions, many of which explicity stated things like "I know what explosions sound like. It wasn't the sound of a building collapsing that I mistook for explosions, they were without a doubt explosions", are all lying. They just heard the building collapsing, that's all. 100 witnesses reporting the same thing, 200 witnesses, who cares. They're all wrong about hearing explosions, and me, one person, is right, and am in the position to tell all of them that they're incorrect.

edit on 16-1-2012 by TupacShakur because: (no reason given)

Lol! One of the greatest shows of sarcasm i have ever read. Kudos!!

i know people who believe the official story is total disinformation and i know people who believe the official story is the truth.

most people who question the official story actually know about the events that took place, most people who believe the official story don't know about the "small details" of 9-11.

pure logic is a b-*-t-c-h

9/11/01=false flag operation...

war on terror=genocide

patriot act=treason


govern=control

ment/mente'=mind

I still never got a reply from the Debunkers,

I provided the links and even more in a few posts after this one ..

So lets hear your side of it

Originally posted by WhereAreTheGoodguys
I know Mr. O'Neil was in charge during actual day of, thats not what I am eluding to. You had a company that Bush & Family was in charge of just prior to the event. My point was meant to give the supposition that they had the opportunity prior during the planning stages.

Do you really want to go down the John O'Neil road ? To stay on topic of PBS here ya go : www.pbs.org...

Originally posted by Alfie1

Originally posted by WhereAreTheGoodguys

Originally posted by Alfie1

Originally posted by GoodOlDave

Originally posted by Alfie1

Let's see your evidence for Marvin Bush being " head of Security of the Towers " please.

You know they're just going to post something they got off some damned fool conspiracy web site, right?

Yup ! or ignore it.

2nd line

www.commondreams.org... I can find about a ton more if you like. Kinda strange how his nanny ran herself over and died after 911 too isnt it ?

Even your article, while trying to be as suggestive as possible, doesn't claim Marvin Bush was Head of Security at the Towers.

Fact is Marvin Bush was a director for a time of Securacom but he ceased to be in June 2000, months before his brother became president.

The Head of Security at the Towers on 9/11 was John O'Neill who was sadly killed in the attack. Google him if you don't believe me.

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There is no way that building 7 fell due to fire. Another thing is the timing of the falls, and the nature in which they fell. Physics would dictate that there are inaccuracies in the official report. Oh, and the fact that MULTIPLE people in the know have admitted to what actually happened doesn't seem to bother anyone who is close-minded. So whatever.

Do you think someone would accidentally slip-up and say "we did it," if it weren't true? No. That was the truth coming out, because lying is against human nature.

Originally posted by TupacShakur
reply to post by samkent

 

From that article:

And in order to prepare the columns you first had to be able to see the columns, which means at least partially removing the outer-perimeter interior walls of all blast floors, including furniture, plumbing and conduit lines, and etc.

But as Richard Humenn, the Principal Chief Electrical Engineer for the World Trade Center Complex has explained, access to the elevator shafts provides access to the core columns.

They followed the path of least resistance

With very few exceptions, a tall office building cannot be made to tip over like a tree

But you're about to see images of buildings that actually collapsed towards the path of least resistance.

In all of them the building for the most part retains it's original shape, and you can still tell what it looked like before the collapse.

I'll finish the rest of that paper later

Don't believe enough people saw this post earlier. Wanted to make sure any physics teachers on this site who tell us "crazy" people that buildings can't topple over see this. Path of least resistance people. The building was hit by debris on its side. Common sense and physics can cooperate sometimes. Tupac, your posts have been incredible in this thread. Well played sir, well played.

Already made up my mind, don't confuse me with the facts. Disclaimer, poster is EE (crazy).

Funny that when people who went to school for years to study science or engineering all agree the official story is BS, a layman will choose to believe Gov rather than an army of nerds. That is the real puzzle, what is up with that. They all know the nerds are technically above reproach and not capable of lying.

The answer, is that we don't want to know. Head in the sand, don't want to know. Eddie Murphy in the locker room, la la la , not listening...

Originally posted by Axis7
reply to post by TupacShakur

 

Who the hell are you PAL? Mr.paid off...maybe a Czar inside the fantastic passed and present administration RIGHT????
Where did you get your drivers licanses from a Cracker Jacks Box.. Your just an outragous FOOL& stupid if you didn't get the fool part.
Go to your home under the Denver Airport and sux some more under the desk on your knees Bitch!.
Go out side at night and write back and tell us it day time.
Your a plant... a gov plant and a stupid fool non- Americdan idiot... enjot the pay off you are recieving Cox Lick

Wow...dude....you need some anger management time bro.

Or where you just doing your best Andrew Dice Clay routine, OH!

Originally posted by WhereAreTheGoodguys
reply to post by TupacShakur

 

Well in a way cant really blame them. People are upset I guess.

I am mad as hell too about - JFK, RFK, JFK jr, 911, the Patriot ACT, NDAA, the impending start of WW3 and the rigging of our elections. And the almost 100 years of Treason of the Bush family. Oh ya and the devaluation of our currency.

Just seems like people are waking up and I dont know about you but when I wake up I'm a cranky SoB

I have been silent for years out of fear mostly. My wife is so mad at me for voicing my opinion on the internet. She thinks they are going to come and kill me. If they do then I guess we were all right all along huh ?

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Lets keep in mind though, that while I see that you rely dont like the Bush's, that the office of the presidency, the President himself, is nothing more than a figure head.

We all know that Bush, Obama, and Slick Willy, don't have the brains to pull off this type of coup. They are all puppets answering to a higher power.

I think if you combined all of their brains, you would have one hell of a rancher, who likes to golf, and loves young women.

Originally posted by die_another_day
Guys, what if certain government buildings have always had explosives in them ready to be detonated in certain situations?

Do you think that could be the case? Maybe they detonated WTC 7 because someone might try to infiltrate the place amongst all the chaos.




I believe everything is orchestrated by the government.

However, I think the best approach to the problem is to see if anyone outside of the US government can do what was done on that day.

That is a very good theory, one that I was trying to get to in my previous post asking WHY WTC7 was brought down.

Maybe its because of the control command center at WTC7 -- where that building was designed with a self destruct in times of national emergency.

The one fact that I can't wrap my arms around is how nobody was killed in WTC7, as if nobody was supposed to get hurt, hence, the fire teams knew they had to clear out, because it was to come down.

Originally posted by SlightlyAbovePar

Originally posted by die_another_day
Guys, what if certain government buildings have always had explosives in them ready to be detonated in certain situations?

Do you think that could be the case? Maybe they detonated WTC 7 because someone might try to infiltrate the place amongst all the chaos.




I believe everything is orchestrated by the government.

However, I think the best approach to the problem is to see if anyone outside of the US government can do what was done on that day.

Not to be too blunt; no. Certain government buildings are not routinely rigged to blow during construction. I'm sorry, that's just pure fancy.

Who would maintain them (the explosives)? How would they go undetected? How would you keep the engineers and laborers who rigged the explosives quiet? Who would man the detonators 24/7/365? How would you keep them quiet? I could go on and on but, I'm sure you see the point?

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The Irony here is that your statement could be found in an Apollo Hoax thread about how we didnt go to the moon. But we did go to the moon. There is a lot more evidence to support that we did, than we didnt.

So in this case, with the Government, having unlimited funds, would and could pull of what ever they needed to in order to achieve their mission.

Originally posted by superluminal11
Americans are dumber than cows.


Sure you might have well paying jobs, degrees, excel in jobs, excellent writing skills and command of the english language..

but still... Dumber than a sack of hammers.


Its very odd to observe it all

I think that is very unfair. I happen to know quite a few dumb hammers and to say that ALL hammers are dumb is racist!

/Sarcasm

I forget again who was in charge when 9/11 went down?

Was it those Neocons who had just written about the need for a New Pearl Harbor and multiple simultaneous wars to justify a massive increase in defense spending?

But powerful people conspiring to do evil? No way...... that would ever happen......

I know what happened... The Secret. Too many Neocons thinking to themselves 'if only there could be a new Pearl Harbor while we're in charge... if only..." And I'll bet there was this little energy burst around all their heads... and total Secret-style... 9/11 just happened. A totally unintentional bonus.